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Posted on 06-Oct-2002 23:17 GMT by Radfoo32 comments
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Hi, I'm just playing around with a new web site, can you guys test it out? The URL is OSgeeks.net It's a news site for alternative Operating Systems ?(inc Amiga OS etc.)
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Posted by 4pLaY on 06-Oct-2002 21:46 GMT
Why no AROS? MorphOS? ;).
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Posted by radfoo on 06-Oct-2002 22:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (4pLaY):
I decided they are part of Amiga category.
If a AROS (for example) becomes big, then I would create another section.
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Posted by radfoo on 06-Oct-2002 23:42 GMT
Anyone having problems with Amiga browsers?<p>
I plan to test AWeb, but thats the only one I have installed at them moment.<p>
Thanks
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Oct-2002 07:28 GMT
SkyOS? Menuet?
all far nicer than AmigaOS.
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Posted by cOrpse on 07-Oct-2002 09:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (radfoo):
Xoops is a horrible CMS/Portal system ... and the HTML it generates just about works on I.E and mozilla so don't expect much from the amiga browsers :\
... On a side note .. I'm developing a portal/CMS system that should be amiga browser friendly in PHP4/MySQL .. First release will be as soon is i've got the recursive code done for threaded comments and sections :)
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Posted by radfoo on 07-Oct-2002 09:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (cOrpse):
Cool, i'll take a look when you release it.
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Posted by radfoo on 07-Oct-2002 11:28 GMT
Hey, come and take a look. I've got more Be guys than Amiga people registering.
That cant be right can it?
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Posted by cOrpse on 07-Oct-2002 11:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (radfoo):
lots of people are put off by the thought of registering :\
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Posted by Budda on 07-Oct-2002 11:52 GMT
The colour scheme is evil on the forums part... the roll over cell colours are a mess.
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Posted by cOrpse on 07-Oct-2002 12:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Budda):
You ever tried to theme Xoops ? Its hard work lol
YaPP's probably a better solution on the amiga browser and templating side of things .. but alas all the current portal type systems have little qurks,are very bloated or won't work with *your* hosting :(
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Posted by catohagen on 07-Oct-2002 14:16 GMT
here i already see MOS'ers start polluting brand new websites with their fuc*ing
b*llshit....blah,blah....OS4 is shit.....OS4 is ****, Hyperion sucks, morphos
rules...are you never getting tired ?
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Oct-2002 14:23 GMT
Lets face it they are hardly doing MorphOS any favours with their pathetic
behaviour.
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Posted by Don Cox on 07-Oct-2002 14:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (radfoo):
"Hey, come and take a look. I've got more Be guys than Amiga people registering.
That cant be right can it?"
There are likely to be more BeOS users than Amiga users. BeOS was an actively supported OS until quite recently. It has only really started to go through its black patch, while AmigaOS is now seeing light at the end of the tunnel.
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Oct-2002 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Don Cox):
Test your site? Fair enough. You'll need to restart it if it crashes though.
Test #1 Validation, outcome Failed. No DTD.
Test #2 Usability, outcome Failed. Poor alternate text
Test #3 XSS, outcome Pass. No obvious XSS vulnerabilities
You will automatically be notified if any further throughput / HTTP tests fail
Just a personal opinion, the color scheme is awful.
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Posted by Nomad of Norad on 07-Oct-2002 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
What about Dolphin? No links to Dolphin sites?
Is there somewhere a comprehensive hyperlink list to all the different OS projects out there? :-)
NoN
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Posted by the man in the shadows on 07-Oct-2002 15:29 GMT
All I can say about the site is... that's some serious contrast. Tone it down a lot and add some color to it. Theming Xoops code is a beotch and a half and getting the look and feel to sit right with Amiga browsers it seems almost imperitive to write your own for better results. I know the JavaScript inside of the current Xoops build is a far cry from good, the problem is finding a way to replace all of the functionality without breaking the pages is even worse.
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Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 07-Oct-2002 16:40 GMT
Looks not bad - a muted grey theme, I guess you've toned it down? :)
Just a thought - you have a Linux section, will you be adding a section (or sections) for FreeBSD / OpenBSD / NetBSD at all? (All of which have benn around for longer, are more secure and have more ports than Linux).
I'll pop back from time to time to see how the site develops - will there be more than just message forums?
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Posted by radfoo on 07-Oct-2002 17:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
Quite a few people have asked so a *BSD section will be added.
There is a news section too, check the top left menu.
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Oct-2002 19:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
"FreeBSD / OpenBSD / NetBSD at all? (All of which have benn around for longer, are more secure and have more ports than Linux)."
Few corrections. First of all Linux (1991) while younger than Berkeley Unix is older than 386/BSD, at least in so far as public releases are concerned. Anyone can claim what they like about how long ago lines of source were written. The modern *BSD projects were born from the corpse of 386/BSD. FreeBSD and NetBSD are scarcely older than Red Hat, who were already a Linux distributor in 1993. OpenBSD is a youngster, I read Theo's announcement of OpenBSD while using a Linux workstation in 1995. By the time OpenBSD was released in 1998 GNU/Linux was huge.
It's not meaningful to compare individual operating systems for security, let alone parcel Linux (which version?) against FreeBSD (again, which version?). As to "ports", well I guess if you count Linux software on *BSD as a "port" and then refuse to count Linux software on Linux as a "port" then it's a clear win for the BSDs. On the other hand /my/ practical experience as a software developer is that the BSD ports of my software are left to rot while my Debian downline has been very responsive. In fact even the OS X porters are offering a better version of my software than the one available for e.g. NetBSD.
This goes not only for ostensibly Linux oriented software (LADSA stuff) but also for GNOME apps and even image processing tools. So elitist BSDers can say what they like but users and developers vote with their feet, or in this case hard disks.
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Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 07-Oct-2002 19:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (radfoo):
Cool!
Good luck with the site :)
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Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 07-Oct-2002 19:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
Oh no. I'm being hassled by an anonymous person. Help.
However, Mr(s) Anon, you misunderstood "more ports". "more ports" does not mean "more software ported to it" - that would be "applications" you are thinking of (although even then, *BSD gives Linux a damned good run for its money). It means, simply, that *BSD is ported to a larger variety of platforms than Linux is. Have a look someday and see for yourself, please.
Let's not forget, of course, openBSD's claim of "One remote hole in the default install, in nearly 6 years!" which is rather better than many OSes one coudl mention (including the Penguin).
However, for the clinching "argument" asto why BSD is better than Linux, look no further than http://www.linuxisforbitches.com/bsdvlinux.php ;-)
"So elitist BSDers* can say what they like but users and developers vote with their feet, or in this case hard disks." - Which would be why windows has by far the largest share of the market, then, right? What a VERY poor argument to use to support ANY OS "lots of people use it ergo it must be good"!
(*) I don't use *BSD (not at the moment - that's about to change soon), so obviously youare not referring to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Oct-2002 22:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
Only NetBSD is available for more types of hardware than Linux (and this argument quickly devolves into semantics, counting an SGI Xeon server and a 386DX laptop as one platform while dividing the more similar m68k machines into two or more...) not FreeBSD or OpenBSD as you said. So the revised version of your original statement is now
"None of which have been around for longer, one of which may arguably be more secure in its default configuration, and another of which is available for more types of obscure hardware than Linux"
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Posted by reflect on 08-Oct-2002 04:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
"ports" that he talks about might just aswell be platforms.
netbsd is unparalelled when it comes to running on different platforms, and openbsd isn't bad either.
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Posted by reflect on 08-Oct-2002 04:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
alot of linux distros are dropping support for anything other than x86.
no more boot diskettes, no more iso-images. sure linux might run on them, but what good is that when there's no distribution around it?
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Posted by mahen on 08-Oct-2002 06:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
Don't exaggerate. There are as many MOS ********
as AOS4 ******** (chose the word you want).
Amigans (includes both) tend not to be very open
minded (well, I hope a little % of them).
So once again (I won't get tired) : respect
everyone, wait for the final products.
Wait for the release of MOS 1.0 the make your
opinion (in less than a week).
PERIOD.
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Posted by mahen on 08-Oct-2002 06:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (mahen):
choose
then
www.OSgeeks.net : Comment 27 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 08-Oct-2002 07:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
" Few corrections. First of all Linux (1991) while younger than Berkeley Unix is older than 386/BSD, at least in so far as public releases are concerned."
Doesn't matter since BSD is much older, who cares then it was free on x86 or not.
Talking about ports it's probably more likely more of your programs compiles in Linux, FreeBSD has a lot of ports but Debian has more packages, and Gentoo isn't that far from behind either. Not that i understand why anyone would care, I'm running OpenBSD with something like 33 ports installed.
The best thing with BSD vs Linux isn't BSD is older, or has more ports, or are more secure (what are that based on, just don't run any services). The best part is that BSD seems more matured, doesn't lack a few regular unix functions, the system feels "clean" and the documentation owns.
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Posted by reflect on 08-Oct-2002 09:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Hagge):
Secure is not just about services. Secure is also when you have alot of regular users in your system. That is where openbsd brightly outshines its brothers and sisters. They have a wide and extensive auditing of all the code that enters the core distribution in a proactive way(ie, not so much the ports, as that would take too much time and effort).
Anyways, that's where it comes from. If it is true or not, well.. I'll let you be the judge of that.
Wbr
Andreas Loong
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Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2002 13:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (mahen):
Exaggerate? What was the exaggeration? Pray do tell oh wise one with the "period".
Or did you reply to the wrong post?
Or are you just a bit thick?
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Posted by DanDare on 08-Oct-2002 14:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
So yet another "please please let me join a minority OS group with some
credibility so I can feel superior to those Linux Lamers" departs for the
*BSD shores.
There has been such an influx of people with this attitude of late it is time
to leave *BSD in search of an OS without obnoxious people like that who
get their insights from the back of a cornflake packet.
DanDare - still running NetBSD after all these years and desperately casting about
for a different OS to migrate to.
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Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 08-Oct-2002 18:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (DanDare):
Erm, right. Whatever you say, as long as it makes you happy...
Funny how you slag off others adding *BSD to their systems (it'll fit in nicely with the other 7 systems of various flavours doing various jobs which I have here), yet you have just admitted that you haven't been able to find anything better to use yourself.
You woudln't be trolling, by any chance would you? Just curious as to the rason for your apparant double-standards.
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Posted by Daniel Miller on 08-Oct-2002 21:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (catohagen):
catohagen typed:
> here i already see MOS'ers start polluting brand new websites
> with their fuc*ing b*llshit....blah,blah....OS4 is shit.....OS4
> is ****, Hyperion sucks, morphos rules...are you never getting
> tired ?
Nice try, but the first post of that nature was by the OS 4 camp. The poster criticized MorphOS as "superfluous" and "for a few elites."
So looks like you only demonstrate your own bias, catohagen.
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