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[News] Nova Design Announces Special Offer for Online SalesANN.lu
Posted on 16-Oct-2002 17:33 GMT by Kermit Woodall37 comments
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Now that Nova Design's online store is live on it's web site at www.novadesign.com - we'd like to offer free shipping to anywhere in the world for any of our products purchased directly from our web site online! Our new store offers a fully secure ordering system and all of our products are available, including the fantastic ImageFX 4.5 upgrade package!

If you're interested in Aladdin 4D, ImageFX, Millennium or our Cinematte products - then visit our web site now and take advantage of this free shipping offer while it lasts!

www.novadesign.com

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Posted by hmm on 16-Oct-2002 15:49 GMT
another sell-out of old products for still too high prices :-)
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Posted by hmm on 16-Oct-2002 15:52 GMT
@1:
sorry, didn't read it before commenting .. sorry!!! Doesn't change them to be overpriced though .. 50 bucks is max I would spend on slooow 68K only programs like those!
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Posted by cheesegrate on 16-Oct-2002 16:07 GMT
thanks for your support for the amiga community kermit.
it's glad to see nova design still there.
What are your plans for the future?
Mos and os4 versions of imagefx?
mac os version of imagefx?
thanks
cheese
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Posted by José on 16-Oct-2002 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (hmm):
Yeah, but it's a damn good program. Besides, you'll probably get a big discount for upgrading to the OS4 version.
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Posted by Don Cox on 16-Oct-2002 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (hmm):
Don't blame the program for the slow speed of the processor. ImageFX
runs at a good speed on Amithlon.
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Posted by hmm on 16-Oct-2002 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Don Cox):
even on 68K you can do it FASTER .. and I doubt ImageFX is portable .. it did never cleanly integrate with OS 3.x either (let me point you to self-drawn titlebars (!) and bugs like two active windows at a time) .. so how could a "jump" to os4 or mos look like .. with all the nasty 68K asm hook stuff .. if you like, buy it .. but don't expect upgrades, the concept is sadly (!) totally outdated.
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Posted by Just me! on 16-Oct-2002 23:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (hmm):
Seems that you never knew what its the pourpose of ImageFX which is one of the best image manipulation programs ever made.
It integrates difficult due to the fact that has to still suport a lot of old framebuffers and outdated devices, if it is slow it's due the fact that we are on year 2002, and the average speed on our Amigas should be between 266-800mhz, not between 20-66mhz as it is, and please dont's tell me that AD or any other is 4 seconds faster.
And as someone said it flys on Amithlon, imagine it over AOS4 or MOS!
Thanks for your continuous support to the comunity Kermit!
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Posted by Kermit Woodall on 17-Oct-2002 01:47 GMT
The future rests with all of us - we're still here, we still support our products and we'll still sell them of course.
As for portability - anyone who doesn't work for Nova and claims to know anything about ImageFX's portability is making wild guesses based on, at most, information from our SDK. Which isn't enough to make an educated guess even!
You're right about ImageFX's speed under Amithlon. AmigaXL and Amiga Forever are great platforms for ImageFX and Aladdin 4D as well!!
Few people have any idea what it's taken for us to support Amigas from AmigaOS 2.1 through today in our products. It's somewhat like asking Adobe to make Photoshop and After Effects work on a 386 system under DOS! Yet somehow we manage this because we wanted to support everyone on as many models of Amigas as possible.
Fortunately, along the way, we also kept ImageFX and Aladdin 4D heavily modular so ImageFX was able to retarget under CyberGraphx and Picasso 96 and works wonderfully under emulation as well.
I'm excited about AmigaOS 4 and Amithlon 2 and look forward to all the speed these solutions will bring to the Amiga community.
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Posted by priest on 17-Oct-2002 05:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Kermit Woodall):
Great!
Keep up the good work!
(I'm one of the future users of ImageFX on OS3.9+ platform(s).)
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Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 06:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (hmm):
yep these people are trying to milk as much money out of these 68K programs as much as they can, i wonder why is it amiga users are the only users out there who enjoy being shafted.
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Posted by Kelly Samel on 17-Oct-2002 07:41 GMT
ImageFX has to be one of the best graphics
programs available for anything, period. I
have found the versatility in ImageFX to be
incredible especially with AREXX and it's
great plugin interface. It is one of the
few pieces of software that will run seamlessly
with 15Khz classic style dual screen interface
for video work or run on a 24bit hi res display
for other styles of graphic work. On Amithlon
ImageFX is about the fastest image processor
around and really performs well...
(converting a few thousand frames for
Toaster/Flyer use is a joy on Amithlon) ;)
Thanks Kermit and I can't wait to receive my
Millenium package. :)
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Posted by PPCRulez on 17-Oct-2002 07:44 GMT
ImageFX is a great program. And IMHO it's even better than Photoshop in many areas. Many functions is so much easier to do in ImageFX than in Photoshop, and many of the jobs is completed faster in ImageFX on my 50Mhz 060 Amiga, compared to photoshop on my 950Mhz AMD Duron.
All my editing of the pictures from my digital camera is made in ImageFX despite the fact that I have Photoshop on the PC, just because ImageFX gets the job done much faster.
And when it comes to batch processing it is just fantastic....
ImageFX is a sure winner. I would love to run it on an AmigaONE or PegasOS.
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Posted by Me having a bath! on 17-Oct-2002 08:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
This comment is out of place, IFX cost a fraction of the price of any PC product today, and offer a lot of functionality missing in most of them.
If there's something missing in IFX is due the fact that no program is perfect, and I'm sure that IFX will improve as much as it did in the past.
NovaDesign has been supporting the platform all of those years and deserve almost your grateful respect. Anyway we live in the free world, you aren't obligated to buy the product if you don't like it. But please don't spread missinformation that's simply not fair.
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Posted by hmm on 17-Oct-2002 09:56 GMT
This is ridiculous! OF COURSE ImageFX is faster on Amithlon .. as is ANY other Amiga program :) ..
@ Kermit:
So you want to tell me ImageFX does not more or less *consist* of those 68K-tied Hooks and the 68K-tied Libraryinterface? It does not work around intuition in a system-unfriendly way? It will not be incompatible with new intuition releases, their skins and today's GUI-concepts? Huh? Please don't make fun of your customers!
Porting ImageFX *nativly* to anything beyond AmigaOS 3.x would involve a rewrite in major parts and result in incompatibility with old hooks. I can understand why you want to avoid to get this public knowledge, though.
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Posted by Me doing! on 17-Oct-2002 12:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (hmm):
Ok if IFX is badly programmed then what?
Suppose that tomorrow it is not compatible with Intuition anymore and takes Kermit to rewrite "several parts"... what? at the end it will be his problem, not yours or mine...
But even if this is true doesn't alters the fact that IFX is one of the greatest Amiga Programs. If you doesn't like don't buy it period.
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Posted by Mike Veroukis on 17-Oct-2002 13:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (hmm):
>So you want to tell me ImageFX does not more or less *consist* of those 68K
>tied Hooks and the 68K-tied Libraryinterface? It does not work around
>intuition in a system-unfriendly way? It will not be incompatible with new
>intuition releases, their skins and today's GUI-concepts? Huh? Please don't
>make fun of your customers!
May I ask, what the hell is your problem?!? The Amiga market has but one professional level piece of software left and you have to go out of your way to bash it?!? If it is a piece of junk the market will figure it out on it's own. The fact that they still sell this thing so many years after all other commercial companies have long gone speaks volumes. If you don't like it don't buy it, but making attacks against the makers isn't helping anyone.
- Mike
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Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 15:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Me having a bath!):
I love IFX and really respect Nova Design for staying alive. I hope they get to port (and update!) their products to OS4. I got to meet Kermit in St. Louis back in 1996 and think he's a great guy.
That said, I had to go buy Paint Shop Pro for my PC (not paying for Photoshop) so I could do some texture modifications for a flight sim. IFX just didn't support those types of tiff and tga files. :-( I paid $50 for PSP after a mail-in-rebate, btw.
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Posted by Jaeson Koszarsky on 17-Oct-2002 15:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
Has anyone looked at the price for Photoshop?
How about its features?
ImageFX is an outstanding software package and you can't beat the price.
If you're bashing it, then you don't have a clue and probably never used it.
Jaeson K.
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Posted by Peter on 17-Oct-2002 16:22 GMT
What the hell is this ImageFX vs Photoshop nonsense??
There is no way you can seriously compare the two,
you might aswell compare DPAINT with PSP aswell.
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Posted by Kelly Samel on 17-Oct-2002 18:19 GMT
Well, ImageFX is more flexible and more powerful
than PhotoShop in my opinion. PhotoShop has
never been a favourite of mine... I used
Adobe software extensively on G4 while
working at a Macintosh based store and
found it to be primitive compared to ImageFX's
flexibility, reliability, features, speed and
overall interface design... I know some people
may disagree with this but for people that
know ImageFX well it really is unbeatable...
As for paint programs, I wish someone would
develop a Combination of Brilliance's great
user interface and TVPaint's awesome 24bit
power, that would be something to look
forward to... :)
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Posted by The_Editor on 17-Oct-2002 18:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Kelly Samel):
Quoted:
I wish someone would
develop a Combination of Brilliance's great
user interface and TVPaint's awesome 24bit
power, that would be something to look
forward to... :)
Hear Hear. I love Brilliance.
I also bought ImageFX 3 from Kermit @ WOA Olympia.
It Rox is all I can say.
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Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 20:08 GMT
If ImageFX really is unbeatable then why the hell is it not a "STANDARD", why is there not millions of companys using it if it was the best compared to everything else,
your only getting a stiffy because it is on the amiga.
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Posted by Donovan Reeve on 17-Oct-2002 22:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
You, sir are an idiot. I use the latest versions of PhotoShop and have for
years, always keeping it updated. It is not a terrible piece of software, but
it has allways had somewhat clumsey ways of handling some things. I prefer
the way several Amiga art programs handle certain features to the way PhotoShop
does. Just because PhotoShop isn't bad doesn't mean that Amiga software doesn't
have it's advantages also. You don't know what you're talking about and you
are a crashing boar as well so why don't you just go jump off a cliff.
I am totally disgusted with the obviously bigoted non-Amigans which
constantly insist on shoving their way into our discussions like ugly,
desperate-for-attention party crashers. Take your inferiority complex
elsewhere. You are not impressing anyone here except with how brain-dead
and obnoxious you are.
In short, you are persona-non-grata... beat it!
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Posted by Name on 17-Oct-2002 23:18 GMT
Listen Reeve you silly bastard. you are the sort of dickhead who comes on here with all this Amiga is the best bollox attitude and it stinks. how the fuck can you compare a 2 bit program like ImageFX with the true king "Photoshop",
this is nothing about slagging of amiga products, Photoshop beats the hell out of ImageFX, only a complete tit like yourself obviously does not know how to use PS properly, if you did you would not rub your dick over a old 90s piece of shit program,
Now do me a favor and GET TO FUCK.
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Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 23:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
> If ImageFX really is unbeatable then why the hell is it not a "STANDARD"
> [...] because it is on the amiga.
There, you answered your own question. :)
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Posted by James Carroll on 18-Oct-2002 02:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Name):
"GET TO FUCK"
Hmm, has this guy been translating insults from his native language into english with babelfish or something? Heh, oh well. The general feeling was conveyed well at least.
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Posted by John Block on 18-Oct-2002 07:17 GMT
We are Christian's guests on his software and space.
Wipe your feet when you come in, and certainly don't start brawling.
Imagefx is a tool and it's value is related to the use made of it.
Pretty much all the images on http://www.storeshop.com have been file size reduced, resized or retouched using imagefx.
Fast downloading, good looking images are a competitive adbvantage.
This use is a waste of most of imagefx's abilities.
I have several times file reduced images as a favour to standard package using PC and mac users with better results.
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Posted by It's Meeeee! on 18-Oct-2002 08:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
IFX is not the standard, Amiga is not the standard. that's true.
I wonder why if the Dpaint approach is far much better than the PSHOP approach in terms of hand drawing, why nobody does the same as Dpaint do.
I HATE the way PP, PSHOP, PSP and many others handle the interface, the keyboard and those anoying selection tools while your're painting.
Personally the best combination I've used to draw and manipulate images was Dpaint + PPAint + Brilliance + IFX.
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Posted by Anonymous on 18-Oct-2002 09:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (hmm):
As I am an OS4 betatester, I can asure you that hooks will still work with OS4. There will be no problems at all with ImageFX on OS4.
(I will stay anonymous because I don't want to be flooded with e-mails later on)
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Posted by hmm on 18-Oct-2002 10:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Anonymous):
.. lateron, when it turns out you're neither a betatester nor is this info right. Good reasons ;)
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Posted by john on 18-Oct-2002 10:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (The_Editor):
@the_editor
Brilliance is simply excellent. I use it through a TV card fitted in my mediator.
Actually, the parent company of Brilliance (Play Inc who absorbed Digital Creations) went down a while back, so in theory the rights go back to the original programmers. If that's the case, maybe they could be approached by interested parties, with a view to 'modernising' it and relieving it of ECS/AGA dependencies.
-john
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Posted by PPCRulez on 18-Oct-2002 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Peter):
Sure photoshop has some functions that ImageFX doesn't have. But it is also the other way around. I'm just saying that ImageFX gets the job done faster and with less hassle compared to Photoshop. Just to compare one simple function which truly sucks in Photoshop and that is when you are cropping an image. You have much more control over the end results with ImageFX than with photoshop.
I think ImageFX would have a good chance as an Image Processing software even on a Wintel box.
And as I said before, you shouldn't even talk about the batch processing capabilities of ImageFX. It's truly amazing, and beats the crap out of photoshop
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Posted by john on 18-Oct-2002 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Peter):
I've never heard Nova Design promote IFX as a 'Photoshop Killer'. Sure it can do many things better (ie in a more logical way), such as the mentioned crop tool, but Photoshop didn't get to the top of the hill by being bettered by anything else.
IFX's brief is somewhat wider than PS's, not only does IFX have possibly one of the best batch processing engines around (autofx), but it has more-than-passable animation features.
PS's brief is for static image manipulation alone, batch processing is appalling and limited animation is covered via ImageReady (well gif's anyway).
PS's use of colour channels is more suited to the print world (CMYK), rather than IFX, which works in the RGB colour space only (although IFX can save out as CMYK).
All-in-all, IFX still offers great value, simply for it's expanse of tools and it's versatility. If people actually RTFM, they are capeable of producing impressive results that will stand up to those produced on any other program/platform.
Hopefully sales of the A1/OS4 platform will be encoraging enough for Nova to invest in a PPC programmer to port over IFX to PPC-native. Even so, IFX should be more than nippy enough through OS4's emulation layer for most instances. Other platforms have good software, you just gotta pay your money and take your choice.
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Posted by Don Cox on 18-Oct-2002 13:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (PPCRulez):
IMO the best cropping tool around is "Crop Visual" on ADPro.
I've been using Photoshop since version 0.9. It is a very
comprehensive collection of image-processing tools, including some
such as Duotones which are not done well or at all in other programs.
However, IMO its interface is muddled and confusing. People even have
to go on courses to learn how to use it, which is not a sign of a good
interface.
Its primary function is retouching of photographs and other existing
images. It is relatively weak as a paint program - ie for creating
artwork from scratch. TVPaint (Aura on Windows) is better here.
It doesn't handle moving images well. Amiga programs, or WinImages on
PC (an ex-Amiga program) are better here. Aura also does animation.
If I was limited to one image program on Windows, I think I might
settle on WinImages, but it does have to be learned.
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Posted by Donovan Reeve on 18-Oct-2002 22:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Name):
Well, mister. I am niether silly nor a bastard. Your lack of intelligence is
certainly showing though. Not once in my post did I slander PhotoShop. I
merely said that I have used up-to-date versions of it for many years and that
it is in some ways clumsey, and that I prefer the way certain things are
done on some Amiga-based software to the way PhotoShop handles them. Nor did
I make the statement that Amiga is the best, but in some ways, yes it still is.
YOU are the bigoted one. I use many different computers with many different
O.S.es and software packages, and I believe I am both qualified and entitled
to and express my own opinion.
You, on the other hand, are a twit. Your only agenda, indeed your only life
and passtime seems to be to flame Amiga and rag at Amigans. This is an Amiga
thread, and if you hate Amiga so much then you don't belong here and I wouldn't
think you would even want to be here. But your animosity for Amiga is really
shallower than that, isn't it. It is really based on trying to force and
influence people to the market which you feel will benifit you, whether they
want to go there or not.
I repeat, get lost.
Donovan Reeve (bubby@inebraska.com)
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Posted by Donovan Reeve on 18-Oct-2002 22:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (It's Meeeee!):
> Personally the best combination I've used to draw and manipulate images was Dpaint + PPAint + Brilliance + IFX.
Yeah, great combo. I also use AdPro a lot for several things, and ArtEffect.
And VLab is still hard to beat for frame-grabbing. And if it makes anyone feel better, I also use PhotoShop as
well as various drawing and CAD programs on other platforms to good advantage. But pretty much all of my painting
is done on the Amiga software yet because I haven't found anything better. PhotoShop and most other good art
software on other platforms is for image manipulation, not image creation.
Still need and use my Amiga in spite of having nearly everything else as well.
Donovan Reeve (bubby@inebraska.com)
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Posted by LorD on 21-Oct-2002 05:34 GMT
ImageFX is a great product and Nova always made very good things for us, for the Amiga. Thank you Nova !
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