| [News] AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 17-Oct-2002 00:11 GMT by Cyberwlf | 132 comments
View flat
View list |
As the title says, the Australian debut of the AmigaOne, the final hardware, will be demonstrated this Sunday in Sydney, Australia. So come along and check it out at ....
AmigaOne Australian Debut
You're invited!
Sydney Amiga User Group and Anything Amiga (www.anythingamiga.com.au) present, the AmigaOne Australian Debut.
Want to be one of the first in Australia to get a look at the new AmigaOne ...................
Well come along...
SAUG Website
DATE: Sunday October 20th
TIME: 2pm
LOCATION: Epping Community Centre, (School of Arts building), 9 Oxford Street, Epping NSW.
If your Sydney based or close enough to get there then see the
following.
This coming Sunday the Sydney Amiga User Group in conjunction with user group member Ross Vumbaca and AnythingAmiga will debut the new AmigaOne.
So come along and see the first new Amiga hardware in many
years ............ and join SAUG while your there.
For more information on the Sydney Amiga User Group please visit: http://welcome.to/SAUG.
For those that can't make it a full run down on the event will be posted on the net via our website as soon as possible after the days activities in both text and mpeg video format.
So if you can make it we will see you all there this coming Sunday !!!!
If not we will post links to where you can see it on the net. !!
|
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 1 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Cyberwlf on 16-Oct-2002 22:12 GMT | | Argh, next time i should check a URL before i add it. It's www.anythingamiga.com , no .au at the end!!! |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 2 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Frederik Yssing on 17-Oct-2002 02:55 GMT | In reply to Comment 1 (Cyberwlf):
Uhh another Linux demonstration.. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 3 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 03:53 GMT | In reply to Comment 2 (Frederik Yssing):
Uhh, regardless. It is still the final hardware alot of us have been waiting years to see. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 4 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by anarchic_teapot on 17-Oct-2002 05:05 GMT | In reply to Comment 2 (Frederik Yssing):
"Uhh another Linux demonstration.."
Where does it say that?
Incidentally, if the way Linux performs on the A1 doesn't give you an idea of how it'll perform with AOS (speed, for example), then there's something wrong with you.
Also, since when the A1 goes on sale you won't be severely restricted as to which hardware you're allowed to use with it (I name no names but watch where my eyes rest), at least you can get an idea of what your config can look like and find out whether or not the various components you dream of - RAM, graphics card, etc - work with the A1 h/w. Why be obliged to stick with someone else's default? |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 5 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ex Eyetech fan on 17-Oct-2002 06:00 GMT | When EYETECH release a machine without a soldered on chip then maybe more people with buy one,
Dont you find it very suspicious that the G3 chips are soldering directly on the motherboard? i strongly believe it the bastards at eyetech are doing that so they can screw amiga users out of more money for when they want a upgrade,
supporting Eyetecj is just like supporting amiga warez. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 6 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 06:10 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Ex Eyetech fan):
No way, you get 75% of the purchase price back when upgrading to g4.
And the XE version has the cpu-module socket, so shut up and wait for that. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 7 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cOrpse on 17-Oct-2002 06:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Ex Eyetech fan):
"When EYETECH release a machine without a soldered on chip then maybe more people with buy one"
AmigaOneXE...
"Dont you find it very suspicious that the G3 chips are soldering directly on the motherboard? i strongly believe it the bastards at eyetech are doing that so they can screw amiga users out of more money for when they want a upgrade,"
As its been explained many many times ... Its a cost cutting measure so that the price is low enough that they actually sell some .. If you want a CPU socket you can trade it in for the XE later.
"supporting Eyetecj is just like supporting amiga warez."
How so ? Ah i get you now .. its because they're not ramming morphOS in everyones face.
N.B : There are some amiga warez people around these parts but they are few and fair between. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 8 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Carroll on 17-Oct-2002 06:40 GMT | | Argh, so close yet so far away! (I'm in New Zealand). :) |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 9 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by NeRP on 17-Oct-2002 06:58 GMT | Lets look at another fact about that soldered on CPU. Even if you did
have a socketed CPU, the next generation CPUs could very well make
short work of the speed of your ram and your bus. But if it's *THAT*
bloody important to you then I want you to explain to me the upgrade
path of these machines:
486 - Had a CPU socket
P1 - Had a CPU socket
Sure you can buy some sort of 'overdrive cpu' for them, but the end
result is poor enough that you should just go and buy another
motherboard anyway, which is *very* common in the PC world.... and yet
another thing that we'll have to get used to as Amigans. Technology
moves very fast today compared to before.
Needless to say, I'm hoping the AmigaOneSE is a very short stepping
stone before a next generation AmigaOne comes out. Honestly, I'm not
even sure if having a socket would even tempt me to buy the
AmigaOneXE. MAI have a newer northbridge out there that supports DDR
ram, and AGPx4.... and that board could have a socket as well.
In reality, both the Pegasos and the AmigaOneSE are 'old' by PC terms.
The socket on the Pegasos isn't going to help it when you swap out
to the next generation AmigaOne(x) motherboard with DDR, serial ATA
and fatter bus speeds.
To sum it up... at this stage in the game, I think a CPU socket is
pretty much moot. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 10 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Sam Smith on 17-Oct-2002 06:58 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (anarchic_teapot):
"Uhh another Linux demonstration.."
'Where does it say that?'
A good question. Anybody care to enlighten us?
Will OS 4 be demoed?
---
Sam |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 11 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Amifan on 17-Oct-2002 07:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Ex Eyetech fan):
"When EYETECH release a machine without a soldered on chip then maybe more people with buy one"
Yeah let's put everything in sockets. Now that's fun. And why don't we replace those SMD 0805 resistors and capacitors with wire ones?
You want also DIMMs with socketed memory? ;-)
(Yeah I know he ment the CPU, but I just couldn't resist............) |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 12 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ziggy on 17-Oct-2002 07:43 GMT | | I'm in Sydney. But not interested in a linux demo. Can you tell us what OS & software is installed please. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 13 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 08:39 GMT | | If i want to update my machine i take out the CPU and put in a new one, non of this Eyetech money making nonsence, as for them saying the Socket is expensive, what a load of crap, the sockets are very very cheap but only amiga companies like to shaft people. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 14 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by mensa on 17-Oct-2002 09:01 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (anarchic_teapot):
"Incidentally, if the way Linux performs on the A1 doesn't give you an idea of how it'll perform with AOS (speed, for example), then there's something wrong with you."
Well, troll, how fast Linux (or any other OS) runs on a 600 MHz 750CEx isn't exactly a heavily guarded secret. Hundreds or thousands of people do that daily, and have done so for years. What would Linux' performance tell us about another, totally different, not completed, never publicly demoed OS?
Nothing.
We know that the current AmigaOS flies on an ancient 50 MHz 68060, and it's more than likely that it wouldn't exactly crawl (to put it mildly) on even a low-end "modern" CPU like the 600 MHz 750CEx.
That's all we know without a demo of the OS.
The hardware is TOTALLY UNINTERESTING. A POP mobo. For sale since a year and a half. All specs and pretty pictures available for everyone to read since a year and a half all over the net. It's running Linux, just like it's been doing for a year and a half. Yay, how exciting - not.
We want AmigaOS. I don't give two sh¡ts about whatever the mobo it's running on looks like or who happens to be distributing it or what trademarks they use.
Demo AmigaOS. Yeah, the Operating System. Not just some of its to-be-included GUI components running on an Amiga. The OS is not ready to demo yet? Too bad, come back when it's done. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 15 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by mensa on 17-Oct-2002 09:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Ex Eyetech fan):
" Dont you find it very suspicious that the G3 chips are soldering directly on the motherboard? i strongly believe it the bastards at eyetech are doing that so they can screw amiga users out of more money for when they want a upgrade,"
Moron. You make it sound as if Eyetech has anything to do with hardware design. They get to distribute what there is to distribute, and they happen to have chosen the Teron CX. They're not screwing AmigaOS users buy selling antiquated developer's hardware, they're screwing us by maintaining a monopoly on hardware for AmigaOS.
The Teron CX might suck, but what REALLY sucks is that we aren't allowed to chose our own hardware or who we wanna buy it from if we want to run AmigaOS.
For the record-keeping fanatic fuckwits, I personally think the Pegasos sucks too (it's the same thing after all, just smaller and smarter/better designed). It's just hardware furfukssake, nothing to fight about. We should be allowed to choose what we prefer tho. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 16 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Oct-2002 09:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (anarchic_teapot):
Also, since when the A1 goes on sale you won't be severely restricted as to which hardware you're allowed to use with it (I name no names but watch where my eyes rest), at least you can get an idea of what your config can look like and find out whether or not the various components you dream of - RAM, graphics card, etc - work with the A1 h/w. Why be obliged to stick with someone else's default?
--
Then your eyes are layed on the wrong company. Who told you I must use certain
hardware? |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 17 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by anarchic_teapot on 17-Oct-2002 09:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
@Alkis
> Then your eyes are layed on the wrong company. Who told you I must use
> certain hardware?
Thendic. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 18 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 09:36 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
>It is still the final hardware alot of us have been waiting years to see.
LOL!
Eyetech announced that hardware _this_ year, how come you were waiting for it for years? |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 19 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Turrican on 17-Oct-2002 10:15 GMT | Dear Amigans,
to those who expect to see the AmigaOne being released quickly with AmigaOS 4, I'd say "don't be impatient".
to those who expect to see the AOne with OS 4 early next year I'd say "don't be impatient".
to those who expect to see the Aone with OS 4 rather late 2003/early 2004 I'd say "your are wise, my fellows".
Your avenger,
Turrican |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 20 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 10:17 GMT | This new amigaOS is a complete JOKE, why the hell should i be forced to buy a machine which i do not want just so i can run OS4 on it, i hope someone hacks OS4 so it can be run on other machines,
Restricting people is stupid and very bad for the amiga. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 21 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 10:43 GMT | In reply to Comment 17 (anarchic_teapot):
>> Then your eyes are layed on the wrong company. Who told you I must use
>> certain hardware?
> Thendic.
I think there's some confusion here (or maybe you're spreading crap on purpose?). The first "Betatester" systems came bundled with a fixed set of hardware for betatesting MorphOS with this specific hardware. Of course nobody stopped any betatester from using any other hardware, but that round of betatesting/bugreporting was to be done with the defined hardware.
Naturally no such restrictions will apply for the final release of MorphOS or the Pegasos. Hardware restriction insanity is unfortunately the domain of AmigaOS, or rather the current trademark owners ruling its inevitably sad fate. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 22 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Kronos on 17-Oct-2002 11:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 17 (anarchic_teapot):
Now come Ms CrackPot, we all know that the choices of GFX-card will be limited by
both OS4 and MOS. MOS can use Radeon,Voodoo,Permedia and SIS (plus the Virge).
What can OS4 (P96) use right now ? Right Voodoo !! Radeon is still in development
and at some yet undisclosed date someone yet unknown may write a driver for the
Matrox-Paranoia.
HD,CD,keyboard,mouse just what you like. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 23 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Fot on 17-Oct-2002 11:17 GMT | Well, I'm not aware of any dealers selling or planning to sell/support the Peg board in Australia.
I look forward to the using the AmigaOne as a hobby system and then upgrading to the G4 XE. Sure it's expensive, but it's my choice and I can afford it :-)
MOS doesn't interest me since it's not AmigaOS. Plain and simple. Nor do I consider it the evolution of 68k AmigaOS to PPC as it's not based on official AmigaOS source code, unlike Hyperion's effort.
So, when's the AmigaONE flying down to Melbourne? |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 24 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ole-Egil on 17-Oct-2002 11:24 GMT | In reply to Comment 23 (Fot):
The AmigaOne was flown to Australia weeks ago. I'm not sure what area specifically, but there's quite a few boards down there already... |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 25 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 11:24 GMT | Must be a record for ann.
23 posts before the tosers out here turn this news into another MOS AOS Slander Match. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 26 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by amigammc on 17-Oct-2002 11:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
Who's forcing you? Personally you can go buy a PC or a dishwasher for all I care |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 27 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 11:30 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (mensa):
If I could habe bought it a year and a half ago I would have. Its not out yet!!! |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 28 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Björn Hagström on 17-Oct-2002 12:31 GMT | http://aurora.merseine.nu/fudbuster/
Appendix B section 2:
# Its business, look for the intent behind the innuendo and treat everything reported as fact ( including this FAQ ) with guarded suspiscion.
/Björn |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 29 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jon on 17-Oct-2002 12:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
<QUOTING>This new amigaOS is a complete JOKE, why the hell should i be forced to buy a machine which i do not want just so i can run OS4 on it, i hope someone hacks OS4 so it can be run on other machines,
Restricting people is stupid and very bad for the amiga.</QUOTING>
LOL! So you want this "joke" to be hacked so that you can run this "joke" anyway?
I don't see much restrictions here. It's only matter of deals. But certain people are too proud to get along. If the hw is approved by Amiga Inc, then there's a chance to see Hyperion making the OS porting. But they don't have a license to other than the PPC version. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 30 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Paul Mellor on 17-Oct-2002 12:37 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (Turrican):
"to those who expect to see the Aone with OS 4 rather late 2003/early 2004 I'd say "your are wise, my fellows"."
If, this is true then AInc/Hyperion/Eyetech would be wise to tell us so that we don't continue to hold back on upgrading our 'classics' and buying 68k software for another year just in case the AOne comes out soon. Amiga supporting companies must be suffering because of the constant promises of imminent release. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 31 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 12:57 GMT | In reply to Comment 9 (NeRP):
>MAI have a newer northbridge out there that supports DDR ram, and AGPx4..
...coming Q1 next year.
No reference board for that one, yet.
>The socket on the Pegasos isn't going to help it when you swap out
>to the next generation AmigaOne(x) motherboard with DDR, serial ATA
>and fatter bus speeds.
What AmigaOne x motherboard, please?
You can buy PCI cards with serial ATA but this is mood.
Maybe bplan can do an oversized turbocard for their Slot1 with PPC970,
and 900MHz memory on it just for you. :-) |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 32 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 13:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 30 (Paul Mellor):
Let me put this plainly:
When you buy a PPC accelerator from Vesalia, that doesn't help Eyetech. If instead you keep your money in your wallet and wait for Eyetech's new PPC board (Eyetech have had a PPC board of one sort or another coming "soon" for... four years?) then you are helping Eyetech by cutting off the income to other suppliers.
In business this is called spoiler tactics. You don't need better products than your competitors you just need better _announcements_ of _future_ products which you never really deliver. You can starve the competition of income, and eventually they will go out of business or agree to your demands. Microsoft used this effectively against both Apple and big Unix vendors. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 33 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by NeRP on 17-Oct-2002 13:44 GMT | In reply to Comment 31 (Anonymous):
>What AmigaOne x motherboard, please?
>You can buy PCI cards with serial ATA but this is mood.
>Maybe bplan can do an oversized turbocard for their Slot1 with
>PPC970, and 900MHz memory on it just for you. :-)
A motherboard obviously not made with that chipset yet. I'm sure the
people that made the Teron could just as easy make one using the newer
"Articia P" chipset from MAI.
Sure, I suppose that the Pegasos could be HACKED already to get these
things, or you could just do it right and buy the nextgen AmigaOne
with Eyetech's buyback upgrade option. Guess which will perform
better? |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 34 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Me in the kitchen! on 17-Oct-2002 14:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (NeRP):
> Sure, I suppose that the Pegasos could be HACKED already to get these
> things, or you could just do it right and buy the nextgen AmigaOne
> with Eyetech's buyback upgrade option. Guess which will perform
> better?
Pegasos of course, do you think do they need to hack anything??? They're hardware makers for God's sake. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 35 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 14:15 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (mensa):
"Well, troll, how fast Linux (or any other OS) runs on a 600 MHz 750CEx isn't exactly a heavily guarded secret. Hundreds or thousands of people do that daily, and have done so for years. What would Linux' performance tell us about another, totally different, not completed, never publicly demoed OS?
Nothing."
Something tells me hundreds of thousands of Linux systems aren't running on PPC platforms. Yes, we all want to see the system running OS4, but Linux makes a great litmus test for any hardware and its performance on a modest CPU is more comparable to OS4 than alternatives like OSX. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 36 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 14:16 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (NeRP):
>I'm sure the people that made the Teron could just as easy make one using
>the newer "Articia P" chipset from MAI.
So can the people who made Pegasos.
>or you could just do it right and buy the nextgen AmigaOne with Eyetech's
>buyback upgrade option.
There is only an option for SE->XE. I wonder how Eyetech will finance this
of they pay 75% for 2nd hand AmigaOne and throw it away (or do they sell it
as refurbished computer to sb.?).
>Guess which will perform better?
Of course the vapor-Pegasos2 will perform better than the vapor-AmigaOneX2.
>:-D |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 37 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by RLFrost on 17-Oct-2002 15:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 9 (NeRP):
The upgrade solution for a P1 or a 486 is to buy a new motherboard and decent chip for about $150 together. Last week I bought an Athlon 2200+ and a Gigabyte mother board ror $154 bucks. I am going to buy a Pegasos or an Amiga One, don't get me wrong, but I'm not going to buy something for $560 with absolutely no upgrade path. For that reason, I'm leaning very heavily to Pegasos at this point.
For the life of me, I can't see why there is all the rancor here. This is an incredibly small market. The survival of Amiga is not in the hands of MorphOS nor is it the other way around. I promise you that I will not adopt either of these running a PPC version of linux as an everyday computer vs. a chip running a more current version of linux at higher speed at a third the cost and with many many more options for peripherals.
I do intend to buy one, however, to support the idea that there are these incredibly talented programmers in the Amiga community who have re-created an very nice OS (MorphOS and AOS) through their own skills and ingenuity. With a few basic apps, I might just throw out my linux box to support such efforts. I don't care if the darned thing runs as fast, but I do think that we, as users, should have some reward for paying a 300% cost premium.
For goodness sake, let's just let both groups make the best product that they can and we will all be better off for the effort.
I may use Windows at work, but I will personally never again pay for an OS that requires me to call the vendor for their permission every time I want to change hardware. It just feels wrong. On the other hand, I don't think others who see it differently are low life scum.
RLFrost |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 38 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Björn Hagström on 17-Oct-2002 15:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 37 (RLFrost):
Well, the trade in deal cuts quite a large piece of that expensive cake doesn't it.
/Björn |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 39 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rob on 17-Oct-2002 15:46 GMT | In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
Ask Thendic why they don't want to have OS4 on the Pegasos then.
I've already heard all the bullshit arguments but I don't see Morph
advertised for anything other than Peg/BlizPPC/CyberPPC. What happend
to that other board that people were complaining you would'nt be able
to use OS4 on I have'nt seen the MorphOS announcement for that.
I don't see how you can argue that one company is restricting to a
particular hardware when its obvious that the "good guys" are doing
the same. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 40 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alan Croft on 17-Oct-2002 16:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 39 (Rob):
I'm going anyway and I hope to see a lot of people there. If I see a lot of people there it will give me a great deal of confidence about investing plenty of $$$ in Amiga.
I'd still probably do that anyway because I am so #@! fed up with MS everything. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 41 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 17-Oct-2002 17:57 GMT | ATTENTION AUSTRALIANS!
The AmigaOne has NEVER been demoed running anything other than Linux if running anything at all. Usually they will display it like a vase or painting.
Nobody in their right mind would expect anything more than LinuxPPC running on the AmigaOne, and if you're really lucky a very green version of AmigaOS 4 running on a A4000.
Don't feel sad if you can't make it, you can simulate the experience by running Linux on a slow PC and then running your Amiga in 320 mode then crashing it various ways. Preferred method is pouring iron filings on the mobo. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 42 of 132 | ANN.lu |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 43 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Bladerunner on 17-Oct-2002 18:02 GMT | Anyone wants to invite me? Demoing my A4000 running Debian Linux? And hey, it`s also
running AOS 3.9 ;-) just kidding.... |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 44 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 17-Oct-2002 18:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 39 (Rob):
> Ask Thendic why they don't want to have OS4 on the Pegasos then.
Actually they don't mind if AOS4 runs on the Pegasos. They have said it would be trivial for them to do so given that the AmigaOne uses the same chip set.
What they do mind is the requirement of altering the hardware so it can accept a special proprietary ROM or similar device.
I would also add that until we actually see AOS4 running on the AmigaOne this discussion is moot. Maybe when that happens, if it ever does, there will be a new board called the Pegasos II.
I wouldn't be surprised if the sun envelopes the earth before then however. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 45 of 132 | ANN.lu |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 46 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cOrpse on 17-Oct-2002 18:19 GMT | In reply to Comment 41 (strobe):
"The AmigaOne has NEVER been demoed running anything other than Linux if running anything at all. Usually they will display it like a vase or painting."
Do you know the difference between hardware and software ? Demoing the amigaOne means hardware and if linux just so happens to run on that hardware its a benefit.
"Nobody in their right mind would expect anything more than LinuxPPC running on the AmigaOne, and if you're really lucky a very green version of AmigaOS 4 running on a A4000."
To say Linux PPC is to look very stupid ... Linux is a kernel , one distro can be very different to another .. Look at lindows.
"Don't feel sad if you can't make it, you can simulate the experience by running Linux on a slow PC and then running your Amiga in 320 mode then crashing it various ways. Preferred method is pouring iron filings on the mobo."
Debian Woody runs very well on my aging A1200 ( blizzardppc 240mhz ) .. so expect good things from it on the amigaOne.
And a side note about slow PC's ; the box here ( known as tub ;) ) is a 266 OldSkoOl celeron ( no l2 cache or very little IIRC .. ) , currently has 14 active users ( via SSH ) and seems to be dishing out some quite heavey PHP generated pages from the development version of my portal software ( amiga friendly html of course ) with no problems ( only 2 meg of ram left , but thats normal :P ) .. Its running Debian Testing/Unstable ( Sarge IIRC ) on linux 2.4.19-i686 BTW.
And as for the amigaone SE for XE trade in , eyetech can sell um on to hosting companies etc :) |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 47 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Oct-2002 18:21 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (NeRP):
Sure, I suppose that the Pegasos could be HACKED already to get these
things, or you could just do it right and buy the nextgen AmigaOne
with Eyetech's buyback upgrade option. Guess which will perform
better?
--
1) The Articia P chipset is ***NOT*** out yet.
2) Hacked? You don't know Gerald Carda my friend... You don't know him... |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 48 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cOrpse on 17-Oct-2002 18:27 GMT | In reply to Comment 47 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>1) The Articia P chipset is ***NOT*** out yet.
>2) Hacked? You don't know Gerald Carda my friend... You don't know him...
Phase 5 Digital fuck-ups ;)They're gonna have to smuggle the production line out of DCE soon otherwise DCE are gonna start asking for rent :P |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 49 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Don Cox on 17-Oct-2002 18:30 GMT | In reply to Comment 30 (Paul Mellor):
"If, this is true then AInc/Hyperion/Eyetech would be wise to tell us so that we don't continue to hold back
on upgrading our 'classics' and buying 68k software for another year just in case the AOne comes out
soon. Amiga supporting companies must be suffering because of the
constant promises of imminent release.
"
It would certainly not be sensible to hold back on buying software.
You can be certain that any current software will run faster on the
AmigaOne, unless the emulator is full of bugs (which is not likely).
If a program is out now as 68k, then even after AOS 4 arrives, it
would be at least several months before an author makes a special AOS
4 version. While you wait, you can be using the 68k version. It will
run faster than on any 68060. |
|
| AmigaOne to be demo'd THIS Sunday for first time in Australia! : Comment 50 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Oct-2002 18:31 GMT | In reply to Comment 48 (cOrpse):
You don't know the deal with DCE...
Gerald Carda is a *VERY* good hardware engineer, and a very good person
on general. |
|
|
- User Menu
-
- About ANN archives
- The ANN archives is powered by #AmigaZeux. It was updated daily (news last: 22-Oct-2004; comments last: 18-May-2005).
ANN.lu was created, previously owned and maintained by Christian Kemp, www.ckemp.com.
- Contribute
- Not possible at this time!
- Search ANN archives
- Advanced search
- Hosting
- ANN.lu was hosted by Dreamhost. Sign up through this link, mention "ckemp" as referrer and he will get a 10% commission on any account you purchase.
Please show your appreciation for any past, present and future work on ANN.lu by making a contribution via PayPal.
|
