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Posted on 22-Oct-2002 17:20 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä32 comments
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Dave Haynie writes in the newsgroups: "I'm in the final stages of the preparation of a DVD edition of "The Deathbed Vigil and other tales of digital angst". For those who've been living, well, in the normal mainstream of modern life and don't know this, this is the film I made about the end of Commodore." There's also a "contest" where you can get your words on the DVD. Read more here.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 1 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Scott Pistorino on 22-Oct-2002 17:12 GMT
I don't know about anyone else but I think the is awesome!! I can't wait to purchase a copy!!
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 2 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Troels E on 22-Oct-2002 17:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Scott Pistorino):
me2..
But got to buy a DVD player first:-)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 3 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by kriz on 22-Oct-2002 18:03 GMT
yeah! great news finally I can get The Deathbed Vigil video .. (and on dvd :))
Nice work Haynie !
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 4 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Oliver Hannaford-Day on 22-Oct-2002 18:06 GMT
COOLLL
This is great news, I want it, I want it now..
Region 2 please!!!
And before christmas
And available from powerc
I want it now!!!
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 5 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 22-Oct-2002 18:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Troels E):
"But got to buy a DVD player first:-)"
There's no excuse , stand alone players were going for £24.99 recently :)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 6 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 22-Oct-2002 18:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (cOrpse):
cOrpse wrote:
[Quote]"But got to buy a DVD player first:-)"
There's no excuse , stand alone players were going for £24.99 recently :) [/Quote]
He is from Denmark!!!
You can't buy one for under 83£!!!
But I have one ;O)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 7 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 22-Oct-2002 18:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
"He is from Denmark!!!
You can't buy one for under 83£!!!
But I have one ;O)"
The ironic part of it all being that DVD's are probably very cheap to produce yet they're still more expensive then VHS :(
I wonder if this DVD will come out at the same time as the re-release Vieuphoria on DVD ( with extra un-seen goodies :)) ) OS4 and the Zwan album ; that would be a one in a million christmas for me :)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 8 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Troels E on 22-Oct-2002 18:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
I just haven't got any real need for a DVD player.. The cheapest I have seen here in Denmark was just under £60, so it's not like I can't afford it.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 9 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 22-Oct-2002 18:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Troels E):
"I just haven't got any real need for a DVD player.. The cheapest I have seen here in Denmark was just under £60, so it's not like I can't afford it. "
they're good to have if you know someone with a DVD burner :)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 10 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 22-Oct-2002 18:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Troels E):
Wow you don't have a pee sea? bare dvd drives can be had on ebay for pennies(USD).
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 11 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Brian on 22-Oct-2002 18:50 GMT
I don't know if any of you have seen this video... however, it is incredibly depressing. It just doesn't seem right that a billion dollar a year company goes bankrupt just a few years latter. Then again it happens all the time now.
Just because it is depressing doesn't mean it isn't a great video. I just keep thinking ... what if.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 12 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Troels E on 22-Oct-2002 18:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (redrumloa):
To be honest I do own a pc:-( but I still don't have any real use for a DVD drive no matter how cheap they are.
At some point I might buy a cheap codefree model that can play VCD, Mp3, divx ;-) etc...
@Corpse
I don't know anyone with a DVD burner.. That would offcourse change my need for a DVD player :-)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 13 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 22-Oct-2002 19:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Troels E):
Hi' Troels
I must say that I like my good Chinese DVD-player :O)
Nintaus N9901: DVD / SVCD / VCD / CD / CVD / MP3
AC-3 and DTS decoder
Region Free (I haven't have any problems with any R2, R1 or R4)
And it's Macrovision free ;O)
And right now you can buy it for only 1300kr :O)
You can find it on http://dvdpriser.dk
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 14 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Y on 22-Oct-2002 19:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Oliver Hannaford-Day):
Region 0 would be better, Shirley?
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 15 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by B.J. on 22-Oct-2002 20:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Chris Y):
Maybe you should have mentioned that region code 0 means "playable anywhere"... Code 0 would be nice.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 16 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by SirRUSH on 23-Oct-2002 01:12 GMT
My only question is...when is the deadline? Dave?? ;)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 17 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 23-Oct-2002 03:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Troels E):
"But got to buy a DVD player first"
Pegasos or AmigaOne ? ;)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 18 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 23-Oct-2002 06:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (cOrpse):
WHERE?
We are there dude!
My gym has a free video library which also has dvds.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 19 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Solar on 23-Oct-2002 07:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (kriz):
> yeah! great news finally I can get The Deathbed Vigil video...
It is available as MPEG on the Amiga Forever CDs from Cloanto, at least it was when I last looked (v4). Since I wanted the Forever anyways... ;-)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 20 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 23-Oct-2002 07:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (John Block):
Theres a weird supermarket thing that sells german or something food in the next town from myself , they also sell clones of products e.g. an engry drink called sitting bull lol
Neways ... they had 200 or so referb DVD players in there for 24.99 , all gone by the next day , my brother managed to snatch one of um and they're not bad.Reports are they might have some more soon ...
But if you go to a computer fair in london or somewhere you'll probably be able to pick up a super dodgy ( not in quality , features ) multiregion DVD/VCD/SVCD/MP3 player for not much over 40 quid.
My mate spent about £200 on a top of the range sony player .. and it won't take CD-R's where as the one my other mate bought for £100 quid 2 years ago will take anything you chuck at it :)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 21 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Oct-2002 07:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (cOrpse):
We got a Wharfdale DVD player from Tesco's supermarket for £90. It plays everything: DVD,DVD-R/RW,CD-R/RW (Audio + MP3!),VCD/S-VCD, pretty much the lot. The downside is it don't like chapters in S-VCD's too much, but other than that it's ok.
I too have a mate who spent a fortune on a complete Sony home cinema system and his only plays DVD's and CD's. Needless to say he's pretty P'd off. Heh, heh.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 22 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 23-Oct-2002 13:07 GMT
Wonder if we will see a sequal soon, "The Deathbed Vigil 2, Digital Angst over Amiga INCompetence" ...
;-/
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 23 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 23-Oct-2002 13:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (takemehomegrandma):
"Wonder if we will see a sequal soon, "The Deathbed Vigil 2, Digital Angst over Amiga INCompetence" ...
;-/"
How about a book idea ... Amiga for dummies : its really nothing to do with companies or even computers.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 24 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by kazaa on 23-Oct-2002 14:11 GMT
well, finally we will see a decent divx rip of that video! ;-)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 25 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Vexar on 23-Oct-2002 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (takemehomegrandma):
I thoroughly expect that, if Dave Haynie were to add to the "director's cut" DVD release to include previews of "2nd DeathBed" as it were, he'd start with Escom, and finish with Gateway 2000.
Has Amiga Incompetent produced anything besides grounds for a class action lawsuit by all the coupon-holders, or the coupon-obligated? I firmly believe the soul of the Amiga made a hasty exit from the "new Amiga" the moment some guy living out of a tractor trailer near Ravenswood, WA called our machine "classic."
I guess those coupons were, as you said, only enough to keep the lights on for a month, McEwen. I've never heard of an obligatory vacation for employees that didn't end in layoffs or doors closing. My advice to Vince, Tarrah, Gary, Mr. Brown, and the rest, is to get in touch with the unemployment office, and look up the Work Availability Reduction Notification laws. You are entitled to 60 day's pay. I am soo glad I'm not looking for work in rural Washington state.
Patiently, I await the zealous defense by the Amiga faithful, so that I may record your responses for posterity and amusement a good six months from now when there really is no use in denying it all.
-Vexar
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 26 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Tronman on 24-Oct-2002 04:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Vexar):
I make my triumphant return to ANN, no longer shackled by the NDA bs of 'the Name'!
I agree with you fully-and I shoud know, I worked there for 23 months! We all had to take an 'obligatory vaction' in June when the door was locked by the landlord. News like this gets four times the hits of RedHat 8.0's introduction on .org-then gets quietly pulled. Hmmm. At least ANN doesn't censor news that AI doesn't like them to post..
There is still no one home at AI's offices in Snoqualmie, I drove by today. Their phone number doesn't work either, I tried that at one point as well. Bummer.
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 27 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Oct-2002 06:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Tronman):
who are you, and why do you think RedHat 8.0 is worthy of even a single hit on amiga.org? Or is that _not_ what you imply? ;-)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 28 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by James Whelan on 24-Oct-2002 09:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Vexar):
Although I love to think of myself as the eternal optimist, I have to agree. I think bad news is on the way. The current silence is unnervingly similar to when Amiga went into "stealth mode" (i.e. scrapping everything mode) under Gateway.
I rarely post on either here or at amiga.org any more because there's too much childish squabbling and name-calling. But I've been quietly watching the events of the last six months and it all reaffirms my now heartfelt belief that the Amiga will never make a comeback.
Coming to this conclusion was strangley liberating for me. For years now, I've been sneered at and ridiculed by various people for predicting the return of the Amiga. Time after time, I've had to eat my words and watch as new owner after new owner stuffed everything up. I lapped up all the pretty speeches about what an amazing community we all were part of, and how we deserved better.
But now that I've accepted that it's not going to happen, I can get on with
using and enjoying the four Amigas I currently own. And nothing will shake my belief that the Amiga is the best home computer ever invented.
While I salute the work being done by Eyetech and Hyperion, I wonder will their labours be in vain. It's all starting to sound too familar - the good work being done by hardware and software teams failing to gain the proper recognition due to the failings of management.
As I've stated on amiga.org on a similar thread, there is nothing I would like more than to be proved completely wrong on all of this. But the optimist in me is dead.
Or at the very least, he's not at all well...
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 29 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 24-Oct-2002 11:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (James Whelan):
In marketing you talk about three levels of a product: Core Product, Actual Product, and Augmented Product. The Core Product could be 'translated' to the problem solving services or the core benefit that consumers are really buing when they obtain a product. The Actual Product is a product's parts, quality level, features, design, brand name and other attributes that combine to deliver the earlier mentioned core product benefits. Augmented Product is any additional consumer services and benefits built around the core and actual products.
Take a product, a drill for instance, and a carpenter as a customer. The carpenter has a problem, he needs some holes in plank. He could use a knife and spend some hours carving, but he has heard of this wonderful product, "drill", that will meet his needs in a better way. The core product for the drill could be defined as something like "an easy way of creating smooth holes in planks". The actual product for "drill" could be a muscle powered "crankdrill" (is that a word BTW?), and it could be a battery driven Black and Decker, ergonomic, good looking, and with long life stainles drills. Augmented product for the Black&Decker could be the (VERY generous) promise: "If your B&D drill brakes down and slows down your work, we will come to the place where you work with a new one, plus manpower enough to help you get back on schedual".
The core product is the foundation for it all. Any market and customer oriented company starts in defining a core product. What is the customer really buying? Customer's don't buy quarter inch drills, they buys quarter inch holes. Charles Revson of Revlon said: "In the factory, we make cosmetics; in the store, we sell hope".
Then, (AFTER the core benefit/product is defined) they start thinking of a competetive product that offers that benefit to the customers. Technical features, quality, styling and branding are questions dealt with in this stage.
Last, some additional components is then thought up, components that gives the customers additional value and make the product stand out from the competition. A generous warranty, help with delivery and installation, buying on credit, and after sale support is examples of that.
But there is another type of company, the technology/product driven one. That company starts with the *technology* part.
QUIZ: Apply this model to Amiga computers (new or old, I don't think it really matters). What do you find? Who will buy Amiga computers and why? Surfers, offices, gamers, video editors, DTP people, etc. Which are those potential customers' core needs&wants, and how does an Amiga computer answer to those needs in competition with other solutions?
Will 1000-2000 Amiga Enthusiasts alone be enough to revitalize the Amiga market?
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 30 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Oct-2002 17:45 GMT
if it runs on the PS2 DVD then i will be happy!
:)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 31 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 24-Oct-2002 22:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Brian):
"It just doesn't seem right that a billion dollar a year company goes bankrupt just a few years latter. Then again it happens all the time now."
Proving once again that Amiga was ahead of it's time. ;)
Deathbed Vigil DVD : Comment 32 of 32ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 25-Oct-2002 02:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Tronman):
>I make my triumphant return to ANN, no longer shackled by the NDA bs of 'the >Name'!
>I agree with you fully-and I shoud know, I worked there for 23 months! We all >had to take an 'obligatory vaction' in June when the door was locked by the >landlord.
Can you answer some questions about the ongoings over the last two years, then? Inquiring minds and all that. I'd really like to hear some tales out of those offices - like what, if anything, they did regarding OS4, etc. etc.
C'mon, tell us :-)
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