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[News] Payback Price ReductionANN.lu
Posted on 23-Oct-2002 23:13 GMT by James Daniels38 comments
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Apex Designs have cut the price of the Amiga version of Payback to 24.95 GBP just in time for Christmas. The game can be bought from their on-line shop here. For those of you who have already bought the game, there are also a couple of new/updated maps available on their Extra Maps Page.
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Posted by Troels E on 23-Oct-2002 21:31 GMT
Realy nice offer!
Unfortunately I still don't have the hardware for it.. When I get my A1 with OS4 it's a must have though!
Hope people who likes this type of game buys it instead of pirating it. Show your support.
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Oct-2002 04:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Troels E):
Aww crap. I don't have the hardware for it either.
Except it does seem there's hope for it working under Amithlon, which I have installed on the office computer.
And I _do_ have the VISA ready. And I _am_ getting OS4 in a not-so-distant future.
Aw crap. I've just filled out the payment form. I think my hands are gonna order it...
Aw crap, I just did.
Oh well, this better work on Amithlon, or I'll be forced to play it on the A1240@40MHz until OS4 is ready ;-)
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Posted by Adam on 24-Oct-2002 05:05 GMT
If Apex design want to sell more Payback for Christmas, they should release
a version compatible with the Pegasos, which is easy to do.
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Posted by mahen on 24-Oct-2002 05:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Adam):
Yes, not tried the demo yet, but if it works on my pegasos,
I think I'll purchase it...
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Posted by Rik Sweeney on 24-Oct-2002 06:16 GMT
Payback is coming to the GBA too :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 24-Oct-2002 06:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ole-Egil):
Its okay on an 040 if you have gfx card!
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Posted by alan buxey on 24-Oct-2002 06:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Adam):
..why does it not work on Pegasos then? shouldnt be an issue with PPC
as MorphOS has a WarpUP wrapper...and the 68k version should run
emulated. Warp3D also worked on the old 0.2 beta I ran on my BlizzardPPC...
alan
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Posted by mahen on 24-Oct-2002 06:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (alan buxey):
... I've not tested so I can't tell you !
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Posted by StAn on 24-Oct-2002 07:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (alan buxey):
The Pegasos doesn't have Paula, and Payback doesn't use AHI. That's the problem.
BTW, the 68k version of Payback was/is ***unplayable*** on my BlizzPPC 040/25 + BVision.
The PPC/W3D version is fast enough (so bad the computer vehicules still can't follow the road :-( ).
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Oct-2002 08:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
Yeah, I know. But I don't want "ok". Payback is _awesome_ if you have enough CPU, so playing it on "ok" will seem like a real letdown. But of course I'll give it a spin ;-)
(I've been playing the demo a LOT on the A1240)
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Posted by George on 24-Oct-2002 09:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Ole-Egil):
You really need a PPC board and a Voodoo3 to appreciate this game....Absolutely rocks...I can't believe there are people out there who haven't bought the game...
It'd be nice to see an 'enhanced' version for the AmigaOne/OS4.
Cheers,
George.
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 24-Oct-2002 10:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (alan buxey):
It does run. With the softren, it runs fine, the hw rend has some problems
with the old W3D wrapper I have, but they have been fixxed afaik.
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 24-Oct-2002 10:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Ah it uses Paula... It should run without sound, if it doesn't it's 2 lines
of code to make it work:) (I only tried it on my BPPC+MOS myself, I forgot the
sound).
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Posted by Anonymous on 24-Oct-2002 10:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (StAn):
>(so bad the computer vehicules still can't follow the road :-( ).
Huh? What the heck are you talking about? You do have the latest patch right? Although I have never seen what you are talking about.
To anyone who has not bought payback yet, buy it already! Support quality commercial Amiga software!! And payback is certainly quality!
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Posted by Anonymous on 24-Oct-2002 10:36 GMT
The only thing this game lacks is internet play. IIRC that will come when the OS4 version is available. I'd sure love to be able to blow up cheesegrate and takemehardgrampa online.
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Posted by Ian on 24-Oct-2002 10:43 GMT
I found Payback was playable on 060+AGA. About 20fps@320x240 or 7fps@640x480.
Really worth playing - about the best game of the type we're going to get until 1st-person games become widely practical (ie: PPC and 3D gfx required). The PPC and 3D accelerated versions of Payback are, of course, even better. :)
Completed it ages ago. There are actually one or two aspects of gameplay that I prefer to the (IMO) excellent GTA3.
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Posted by tinman on 24-Oct-2002 15:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
@Anonymous:
Where did you hear this? I guess James Daniels could have changed his mind but he was reluctant to do any more work on the Amiga version due to poor sales (I asked him at last years WoAse).
@Ian:
20fps at 320 * 240 AGA? That's just lower than the speed I get with 060+Voodoo3!
It really is a great game.
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Posted by Rob on 24-Oct-2002 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (tinman):
Perhaps if more people buy it now James might be persuaded to
develope for OS4.
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 24-Oct-2002 17:42 GMT
I hope James will do an AHI version so AmigaOne / Pegasos users will be able to play it smoothly. That may sell a few hundreds more copies.
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Oct-2002 17:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Christophe Decanini):
Well, I think such a minimal effort would pay off in the end, but it's not my decision. He'll have to choose himself. If he's hell bent on not developing more for the Amiga platform, I'm happy just to get a copy of Payback as it is. I've spent money on worse things ;-) (I recently bought a car... *lol*)
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Posted by Kulwant Bhogal on 24-Oct-2002 18:56 GMT
Is it playable without a joystick? I seem to recall that the demo wasn't. In fact keeping the Tornado3D dongle plugged into the joystick port caused the demo version to go all funny.
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Posted by Jon on 24-Oct-2002 19:07 GMT
Hmm..does NallePuh fix Paula problems?
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Posted by Ian on 24-Oct-2002 20:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Kulwant Bhogal):
I never used a joystick to play it, always the keyboard. Cursor
control on one hand and the fire (etc) buttons on the other was far
better, IMHO. I think all keys are reconfigurable.
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Posted by JKD on 24-Oct-2002 21:01 GMT
IF you have a PPC (or even a 50MHz or greater 060) plus gfx card then this is an awesome game so WHY HAVEN'T YOU BOUGHT IT! ;-)
Do so NOW!
Cheers,
Steve
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Posted by cAHVA on 25-Oct-2002 04:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Jon):
The sound works under Amitlon using NallePuh
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Posted by mahen on 25-Oct-2002 07:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (cAHVA):
NallePuh ? Is it the soft which redirects paula to ahi ???
I'm gonna try it immediatly to tell you if it works on pegasos :)
BTW, making it available for new gen amigas (for me peg and a1) would
boost the sale a LOT : I wanted to buy it before but my config was
too slow.....
It would be sad to lose yet another talented developer :(
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Posted by cAHVA on 25-Oct-2002 08:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (mahen):
Yeah, NallePuh does just that. BTW, its name in the Amithlon was something like "PuhDerBear" or something...
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Posted by special on 25-Oct-2002 08:58 GMT
Yes it is very sad,now there isn`t any normal priced hardware to run games such as payback,heretic 2 or quake2.I hope that a1os4+pegmorp come with a compatible form for both so the users can choose hardware only and nor the software.
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Posted by gz on 25-Oct-2002 09:56 GMT
nalle puh is finnish for winnie the pooh :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Oct-2002 10:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (tinman):
> 20fps at 320 * 240 AGA? That's just lower than the speed I get with
> 060+Voodoo3!
That was a 64MHz '060, mind. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I understood that many Amiga gfx card solutions do not offer greater speed, just better colour depth, due to bus speed issues.
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 25-Oct-2002 11:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
With an Apollo accelerator, a Voodoo 3 is _quite_ a bit faster than chip ram. On a Blizzard, the chip ram access is faster than on the Apollo to begin with, and I think Mediator access is slightly slower.
(an apollo 1240@40 is slower on chip ram than a 1200@14.2, you see... So if you have an apollo, it pays off to not use AGA a lot ;-) )
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Posted by alan buxey on 25-Oct-2002 12:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
agreed. internet play on this game would be awesome!
it doesnt even have to be much....simply take the AMarquee system..give
it a 'multiplyer front end' and allow 8-player action.
Dynamite is a brilliant bomberman clone..and uses the AMarquee system to
do this....Multi-Payback could do the same.
alan
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Posted by alan buxey on 25-Oct-2002 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (mahen):
> BTW, making it available for new gen amigas (for me peg and a1) would
>boost the sale a LOT : I wanted to buy it before but my config was
>too slow.....
Payback is a 'killer app'
if normal consumers were to walk into a shop and play/see it running
on AmigaONE or Pegasos they would be tempted to make a purchase. its
a valuable game that the nextgen systems need to harbour.
alan
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Oct-2002 16:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (alan buxey):
You're deluded. Someone who has no interest in AmigaOS/MorphOS in it self or in PPC hardware would buy an overpriced, underpowered and outdated PPC motherboard to play a clone of an ancient game (GTA2)?
While Payback is fantastic for an Amiga game, and is highly entertaining, it's abysmal and pathetic compared to moderately modern mainstream platform games. Only glitz and graphics count, sorry.
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Oct-2002 17:40 GMT
"Apex Designs have cut the price of the Amiga version of Payback to 24.95 GBP just in time for Christmas"
24.95 ????? are you taking the piss ???????, The game is OLD, even NEW top notch pc games are only aroud 24.99, DOWNLOAD payback instead as it is OLD and rip off.
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Oct-2002 19:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Anonymous):
Huh? What units are you counting in? A brand new PC game is more like GBP 40.00
Still, I agree with the earlier poster that this game is not a killer app. I think some Amigans have forgotten what a killer app really is. You have to do something completely new, that people can't get elsewhere. Something worth $1000 or however much it costs to buy the complete system.
People bought Amigas just to use a VideoToaster. People bought PCs just to run Lotus 1-2-3. People bought modems and signed ISP contracts to get Email (and more recently to get the World Wide Web).
BeOS people, frustrated by their inability to come up with a killer app for BeOS often talk about a second category, "dangerous apps", which they believe attract people who would otherwise be undecided about choosing their system. Payback could easily be a dangerous app, until it ships for the GBA, Linux and Windows. At which point its attraction is moot.
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-Oct-2002 19:30 GMT
i am talking in pounds sterling UK, if you only see new PC games are 40 GBP then i suggest you shop elsewhere, Battlefield 1942 is only 25 GBP, Unreal tournament 2003 is 28 GBP all new, sealed,
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Posted by StAn on 27-Oct-2002 21:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
The computer controlled vehicules go onto the other side of the road when they turn. That sucks.
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