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Posted on 01-Nov-2002 12:45 GMT by koan139 comments
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Start writing to Santa now, AmigaOneG3-SE is G3 @ 600 MHz AmigaOne-XE is G4 @ 800 MHz. See this Eyetech announcement. (spotted via amiga.org)
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 11:47 GMT
"OS4 is now highly advanced, but no, is not currently ready for shipping, largely because Hyperion have had to divert a considerable amount of their time and effort in sorting out the AmigaOne's PPCBoot firmware. "
Well, I thought they had 30+ developers? 1 or 2 allocated for firmware stuff should not delay the whole OS methinks.
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Posted by anon on 01-Nov-2002 11:55 GMT
Moderatooooors!! Please act, remove all but one posting.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 11:57 GMT
Another strange thing: "That, and identifying - and fixing a small problem with the Articia southbridge chip"
That should supposedly read "northbridge", I hope :)
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Posted by Chris Allen on 01-Nov-2002 11:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (anon):
It's a shame that Eyetech didn't elaborate more on the 'fix' to the south bridge. Any clues?
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Posted by koan on 01-Nov-2002 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (anon):
Hence why this section is called "unmoderated".
(BTW: I didn't post the same story intentionally).
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Posted by Chris Allen on 01-Nov-2002 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
The Articia S chip controls the PCI/AGP, memory, IDE, CPU interfacing etc. from the same chip so the North and South bridges are effectively in the same piece of Silicon. The South brige tends to control the PCI, serial, parallel and IDE. This is only dictated by commonly available hardware (e.g. PC's)
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Posted by Amifan on 01-Nov-2002 12:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Chris Allen):
>The Articia S chip controls the PCI/AGP, memory, IDE, CPU interfacing etc. >from the same chip so the North and South bridges are effectively in the same >piece of Silicon. The South brige tends to control the PCI, serial, parallel >and IDE. This is only dictated by commonly available hardware (e.g. PC's)
No the PCI bus used to be located in the northbridge, but since the PC north/southbridge designers used faster links between the north ans southbridge (like VIA's V-link) the PCI bus was moved to the southbridge....
THat's the reason why "we" can use "old" PC southbridges, They're just PCI devices....
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 01-Nov-2002 12:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Chris Allen):
I would like an explaination about that too... Some time ago somebody claimed
that the articia has no bugs and that bplan is clueless cause the problem is
their bios, and now, the not existing bugs are fixed?
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Posted by Waddehaddedudeda on 01-Nov-2002 12:37 GMT
No OS, no sound (whers that f***ing riser ?), a useless 4th PCI, a fix for
a nonexistent NB-bug and prices that are well above the competition.
Hurray hurray !!!
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Posted by Chris on 01-Nov-2002 12:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Amifan):
>No the PCI bus used to be located in the northbridge
I was speculating from doco I read years ago but should have mentioned it. Thanks for the info.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I don't really believe there is a single complex chip with 0 "bugs". And a bug does not nesessarily mean critical bug. It might be harmless or something which is hard to detect. Or it might be something which is not really a bug at all, but you just want to change behaviour of the chip in some case.
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Posted by Nathaniel Downes on 01-Nov-2002 12:50 GMT
This is a misleading topic. Eyetech is *not* shipping now. They're announcing that they're going to ship. I don't know about you, but that is not the same to me. Call me jaded or whatever, but this "big announcement" is hollow to me until the first box leaves the factory.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 12:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Nathaniel Downes):
Well I think it's good that they announced they are going to start taking orders tommorrow. There will be no production if there is no orders, right ?
If they are ready for it then why shouldn't they tell it to us.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 12:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Nathaniel Downes):
I´f I did understand that right, English is not my native language, Eyetech didn't even say they are going to ship NOW. They said that they are going to take orders tomorrow in WOA. And as I said it's just good they told that to us before people go to WOA.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 12:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
Oh sorry you meant topic of this thread, just ignore me :)
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Posted by Troels E on 01-Nov-2002 13:09 GMT
methinks Koan is stupid...
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Posted by Amifan on 01-Nov-2002 13:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Troels E):
/me thinks that this is a useless comment...
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 13:19 GMT
Yhe user have to wait for OS4?????? LOL any dickhead what would EVEN be stupid enough to BUY an AmigaONE without it bundled with OS4 deserves all they get, Just wait instead of rushing just because some 2 bit company wants to make a quick buck,
As for it coming with LinuxPPC and UAE, Stop taking the piss Eyetech you stupid WANK 2 bit shitty company, the amiga comunity does not need shit companys like you around, I hope you go BUST.
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Posted by cOrpse on 01-Nov-2002 13:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Amifan):
/me doesn't need to think
/me needs to sell body for amigaOne :))
All this news has ruined my half term ... I've meant to have done 3 assignments lol
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Posted by Rik Sweeney on 01-Nov-2002 13:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
There's nothing wrong with Linux, it's a fabulous alternative OS. You shouldn't be so nasty either, you'll end up upsetting people.
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Posted by cOrpse on 01-Nov-2002 13:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
"Yhe user have to wait for OS4?????? LOL any dickhead what would EVEN be stupid enough to BUY an AmigaONE without it bundled with OS4 deserves all they get,"
They'll get an amigaOne and OS4 later , and they sure deserve it !
"Just wait instead of rushing just because some 2 bit company wants to make a quick buck,"
Eyetech a 2bit company ? lol My eyetech EZ tower is lovely thanks ...
"As for it coming with LinuxPPC and UAE, Stop taking the piss Eyetech you stupid WANK 2 bit shitty company,"
You mean Debian PPC or Suse PPC ( insert PPC distro here ) , Linux is a kernel and because an operating system uses the linux kernel it doesn't mean its going to be the same as another linux based OS ... e.g. Lindows Vs. Redhat.
"the amiga comunity does not need shit companys like you around, I hope you go BUST."
Eyetech have supported the amiga community , I hope you get hit by a train.
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Posted by EmGee on 01-Nov-2002 13:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Oww, goody goody. Another 12year old can't hold his breath. If you don't like this news, go buy a Playstation2 and play some GTA3.
Djezzzz, no wonder the Amiga community decreases and decreases with such shouting idiots.
BYeeeeeeeeee
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Posted by Frankman on 01-Nov-2002 13:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Waddehaddedudeda):
Yes, the world is wrong....
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Posted by reflect on 01-Nov-2002 13:33 GMT
why do you always have to bite on the most obvious flamebaits?
I mean, just ignore the wankers and stop polluting the threads as much.. can't be that hard, can it?
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Posted by amigammc on 01-Nov-2002 13:35 GMT
I can't believe it (or, can I?)! A bunch of good news are served on a silver tray and the usual bunch of morons start nitpicking and can only concentrate on stupid minor details. How sad! You people don't deserve anything, you deserve to live in a world where there is only Windows.
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Posted by Franco on 01-Nov-2002 13:37 GMT
hey, nice thing, the AmigaOne-XE. I think that could be my machine
rather.
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Posted by alan buxey on 01-Nov-2002 13:49 GMT
a great annoucement..... once again, like all great annoucnements
marred by a handful of idiots.
I'll be buying the XL model...havent decided whether to go for
the G3-700 or the G4-800... hell, i might as well just pay the
extra to get that top spec one. I've always had a top-spec
Amiga. thankfully its never made me bankrupt.
my main concern is what will live in it (in terms of gfx card etc)
but for now i'll put in basic components and run LinuxPPC to
get the PCB warm and used.
I may still get a Pegasos... but MorphOS will have to show its true
shining colours (and stop being just an AmigaOS API emulator)
before that decision is made.
alan
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Posted by aaaaaaaargh on 01-Nov-2002 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Morph Off if you dont like it.
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Posted by Some Farker on 01-Nov-2002 14:04 GMT
Well, here we are then. New hardware. But the question remains, where is OS4? This is definitely good news, though; I have a question, though. When they say "taking orders", in what context is that?
That is to say, "We're taking orders and when we get back to headquarters, we'll have one sent out to you." or "We're taking orders, and when the production batch finishes, at some point in the future, you'll get one then."?
That's an important distinction I'd like to know; frankly the list of people burned by "pre-orders" in the Amiga community would probably stretch from here to the moon and back.
Otherwise, great job.
Oh! One final question - does anyone know what the deal with Onboard sound is? There was *no* mention of it in the spec-out article.
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Nov-2002 14:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Moron, I think What Amiga community does not need is people like you. Do a favor for all of us, go and buy a PC.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 14:10 GMT
GET REAL PEOPLE
eyetech are just a complete JOKE, only a obsessed DIE HARD amiga user would support them, eyetech are overpriced jokers who sell standard hardware at stupid prices all because they know the dickhead die hards will buy any shit just because it came from an amiga shop, if eyetech died tommorow would the normal people give a shit? NO, if you cant see what eyetech are doing to the amiga users then all i say is "OPEN YOUR EYES" anyone with half a brain knows eyetech are out to screw every stupid obsessed amiga user out of money which eyetech does not deserve,
eyetech are the cancer to amiga.
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Nov-2002 14:11 GMT
Great news, now if I only could get some money from somewhere :) And no I'm not going to take studentloan i have more than enough loan already :)
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Nov-2002 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Anonymous):
You are cancer to ANN.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 14:21 GMT
At least i say what i think, i dont go around with a rock hard dick worshiping every 2 bit amiga company in sight,
you die hard amiga users are fucking clowns, total brainwashed fools who get rock hard cocks when some hardware which is outdated in the REAL WORLD,
eyetech must be wanking off thinking of all you clown blowing your hard earned cash on a dead project,
why dont you people be the fucking lab rats
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Nov-2002 14:23 GMT
It's sad how hard all those "Mr Anonymous" guys try to spoil all fun from all of us. They try SOOO hard and still he fails miserably :) It must be terrible to notice that finally noone cares what they say :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Nov-2002 14:26 GMT
Isent it funny that people that make EVIL, FULL OF CRAP comments are always Anonymous.
From
Anonymous. :)
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Posted by Vincent Perkins on 01-Nov-2002 14:36 GMT
I would really like to know what the other A1 packages have, the extra infomation dosent seam to work.
AmigaOneG3-SE starter system £680.81*
AmigaOneG3-SE power system £1063.79*
AmigaOne-XE 800MHz 7451 G4 starter syst £808.47*
AmigaOne-XE G4 7451@800MHz power system 1191.45*
This is the main pack I whant AmigaOne-XE 800MHz 7451 G4 starter syst £949.99
Do these pack inculed the A1 tower (<a href="http://members.lycos.co.uk/new_amiga/amiga1t4.jpg">click here</a>)
Hope they update there site soon., Pluse do Eyetech expect the full amount on Pre-Ordering?
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Posted by redfox on 01-Nov-2002 14:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Anonymous):
Great news. I hope AmigaOS4 will be available soon.
Perhaps the naysayers should find a different forum.
-------
redfox
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Posted by Some Farker on 01-Nov-2002 14:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Vincent Perkins):
I wouldn't recommend buying your A1 as a whole system; if you break it down, you're going to get really, really overcharged on parts. Sorry, but that's the way it's always been with Amiga dealers. Go to www.softhut.com and check out their "DE" developer's system (a PC running Amithlon, IIRC); it's a 500mhz AMD, and they're charging over $1000.00 US for it! That's patently absurd!
Buy the board, then go shopping for a tower, 133mhz RAM, HD, CD-ROM, video card etc. In the long run you'll save money.
-But that's just *my* opinion.
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Posted by miksuh on 01-Nov-2002 14:45 GMT
Tommorrows WOA-show will be wery interesting. Sadly my school is closed tomorrow, because it's holiday. So I can't see news until monday...
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Posted by anarchic_teapot on 01-Nov-2002 14:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Some Farker):
Actually, out of experience with many mobos over the years (not just AmigaOne), I'd strongly advise getting your RAM from the dealer along with the A1, as he/she will be best placed to sell you stuff that works in the quantity you require. Same goes for the Peggy, BTW.
And since I know there's been a price study among A1 dealers, no you shouldn't be paying excessive prices for good RAM.
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Posted by Dave on 01-Nov-2002 14:58 GMT
RAM from Amiga shops is very very expensive, look at the price of a single sided 64mb EDO 72pin simm 59.95 GBP from an amiga dealer and 17.99 GBP from pc dealers and the memory works fine despite amiga dealers lies to put you off buying the cheap simm/s.
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Posted by Some Farker on 01-Nov-2002 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Dave):
Gotta agree with you there, Dave...best thing to do is order the board*, hit the Eyetech website and find out what kind of 133mhz DIMM works best, then buy it from Pricewatch (or the UK equivalent for our friends across the sea).
Here's a little info for you: Waaaay back when, I bought my first hard drive (60mb!) for my Amiga. I hit the Amiga mags and tried to find one, finally found a "good" price, but I double checked and called my boss (who ran an Amiga-based internet-portal BBS) and told him. His response? "Don't buy that! Go pick up a copy of ComputerShopper and hunt through and find the same drive, I promise it'll be at least 30% cheaper than any Amiga dealer"
Long story short, I did and it was. So for shits and grins, I went through and checked out stuff at random comparing dealer prices in AmigaWorld versus "commodity" PC parts vendors and lo and behold it was about 20% more on average across the board to order from "Amiga" dealers.
That may sound like an ugly thing for me to suggest, but there it was in black and white. I hate to recommend someone *not* buy from an Amiga dealer but unless you've just got fistfuls of dollars/euros/pounds to burn, go with the least expensive that's what I say.
*presuming you want to DIY, of course.
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Posted by Björn Hagström on 01-Nov-2002 15:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Dave):
Kinda sounds like the swedish amiga dealers. I just hope that the AONE XE with G4 800 does not cost 10-12000 SEK (1000-1200EUR) like it probably will localy in sweden ...
/Björn
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Posted by Dave on 01-Nov-2002 15:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Some Farker):
@ Some Farker
very true indeed, i only ever use amiga shops at the very very last resort, without sounding like a ass i would never ever use amiga shops for hardware unless they are the only place around, i would rather use the loot or amibench type sites first than pay expensive prices which i do not think its worth the money,
For standard PC hardware i think amiga dealers are really stupid pricing most stuff about something daft like 60% more just because they say it will work on the amiga.
just to add to that, look on Power Computings website and compare the prices for the exact same hardware on there seprate Amiga/PC pages, they blatently sell pc hardware for stupid prices just because it is on their Amiga side of the website which i think it very disgusting and really shows the true colours.
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Posted by Björn Hagström on 01-Nov-2002 15:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Björn Hagström):
(plus 25% Tax)
/Björn
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Posted by SlimJim on 01-Nov-2002 15:46 GMT
This is great news! And those shouting about G4's will get that too now!
Very nice. Congratulations to Eyetech. Now all we need is OS4...
PS: This would have been a nice thread if you could just remove nine tenths of the
posts... What is wrong with people? DS.
.
SlimJim
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Posted by anarchic_teapot on 01-Nov-2002 15:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Dave):
"the memory works fine despite amiga dealers lies to put you off buying the cheap simm/s."
It's not so simple with PC133 SDRAM, as quality varies dramatically. You may strike lucky with cheap'n'nasty RAM, you may not. And it's expensive finding out, believe me. It really is a common problem with mobos of all makes, not just A1 or even PPC.
(as for HDs, CD/DVD-Rom drives etc do what thou wilt: it's RAM that's the problem here)
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Posted by Bill Toner on 01-Nov-2002 15:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
>LOL any dickhead what would EVEN be stupid enough to BUY an AmigaONE
>without it bundled with OS4 deserves all they get
Maybe some people want to use LinuxPPC in addition to AmigaOS rather
than exclusively AmigaOS. These folks will have their need satisfied.
(And there was a big thread recently on Slashdot about people intrested
in PowerPC and Linux, apparently thre are uses/desires for LinuxPPC, and
slashdot isn't that friendly to Amiga stuff so they won't even want OS4...)
Others would likely be interested in using it for development
purposes, my current interest. Hopefully this will help some 3rd party
developers get things working right, before the OS4 release, with the XE
to avoid sorting out the same problems after things are in customers'
hands and they are complaining about it.
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Posted by Don Cox on 01-Nov-2002 16:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (anarchic_teapot):
I agree with Rose about RAM. Always get it from the same dealer as the
board, then if there's any problems they can't blame the other dealer.
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