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Exclusive interview with Ben Hermans only at AmigaSource! AmigaSource! is pround to anounce what hopes to be the first of many interviews with the big names in the Amiga Community. Drop on in and read the exclusive interview with Ben Hermans of Hyperion Entertainment!!!
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Posted by SlimJim on 07-Nov-2002 04:40 GMT
Nice Interview, even though most was alrady known.
I didn't know that Hyperion were "working closely with Amiga Inc to coordinate efforts on Amiga OS 4.0 and DE development.", though (i.e. the 'DE' part).
What's up with that?
.
SlimJim
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Posted by Raquel and Bill on 07-Nov-2002 05:06 GMT
As a caveat to this interview, and in the positive and constructive spirit that seems to be flowing back into this community (see AmiFan "Rant" below), we would like to offer Hyperion a Pegasos with our complements.
When Ben Hermans visited Thendic-France in February 2002 we provided him with CyberStormPPC documentation in hope of assisting with the OS4 development and we took him to lunch. If Ben is willing to come back, we will take him to lunch again and give him a Pegasos. As the Pegasos was developed by the same team that developed the CyberStormPPC, it seems the least we can do.
We hope that this will insure that OS4 is ready for the Pegasos and that this gesture may in some way assist Hyperion in advancing the development, which when completed will be welcomed by many Amigans.
We hope this makes our position clear.
@Ben
We have a Pegasos for you. Please come pick it up and let's bring this community back together!
Sincerely,
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck
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Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Nov-2002 05:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Raquel and Bill):
Hey Bill & Raquel,
Does this mean you will get a licence for AOS4 for the Pegasos too, or will you leave this to resellers? (If at all)
Just wondering,
Amon_Re
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Nov-2002 05:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Raquel and Bill):
Ok, I assume this is just a fake as normal semi-professional companies would address this type of invitation directly to the other part, not thru a public forum website making it look like a bad PR stunt.
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Posted by James Carroll on 07-Nov-2002 05:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Raquel and Bill):
@Raquel and Bill
From what I understand, hardware manufacturers (such as Eyetech) require a liscence for a port of OS 4.0 to their system. Are you willing to pay for one? It wouldn't really be fair to Eyetech if they had to pay and you did not.
(No flames please!)
It's a nice gesture that you're willing to give them a free machine by the way.
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Posted by Björn Hagström on 07-Nov-2002 05:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (James Carroll):
AFAIK, AInc/Hyperion staff has stated that the license/OEM-agreement itself is free. They just have to conform to a certain level of customer support etc.
/Björn
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Posted by bplan@thendic-france.com on 07-Nov-2002 06:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
@Anonymous (80.202.212.211)
We thought this very public method of registering our position was the best way for all concerned to know exactly how we felt. Our post here is no more or less a means of "PR" than the interview itself.
@James
No, we are not willing to pay for a OS4 port to the machine, but giving one to Hyperion is a step in the right direction. We are completely satisfied with MorphOS, but there are some in the that community may want OS4. Certainly, there are enterprising Resellers that can obtain an OS4 license and on the same basis (hardware + OS cost) and apply it to the Pegasos. It will be a little more expensive for people who want OS4, but what are we talking about 25 to 50 Euros? For a long awaited result, it seems a small price to pay.
Anyway, the objective was to get the community to thinking collectively and cooperatively. Having this discussion in public creates accountability and puts the responsibility to move ahead where it needs to be so everything in general can advance.
Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill
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Posted by DaveW on 07-Nov-2002 06:14 GMT
"assume that is why we never received the board"
Probably more the fact (from anecdotal evidence) that the board had significant bugs to be diagnosed and corect and if a competitor got hold of a buggy board hay would have been made whilst the sun shined.
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Posted by CodeSmith on 07-Nov-2002 06:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (DaveW):
@DaveW:
"Probably more the fact (from anecdotal evidence) that the board had significant bugs to be diagnosed and corect and if a competitor got hold of a buggy board hay would have been made whilst the sun shined."
I understand what you mean, ie something along the lines of "...would've been a waste of time", but I've never heard that expression before. Is that English or a translation from some other language?
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Posted by fleecy moss on 07-Nov-2002 06:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (bplan@thendic-france.com):
Hey Bill 8-)
as you well know, all hardware must be certified to run AmigaOS4.0 and an OEM copy must ship with each board/machine. This requires a licence, which is available from us. Giving a pegasos board to Hyperion will not get AmigaOS4.0 on to it. You've now publicly stated that you want to see AmigaOS4.0 on a Pegaasos board and we'd be delighted to see that happen. However, either you or some enterprising OEM will now need to put a specification and process in place and the licence will have to be signed before any work is done. That means meeting agreed levels of quality, sales and support as demanded by the Amiga users, dealers, developers and most important post sale support. With that in mind, do you intend replacing all existing Pegasos boards sold with the Articia chipset bug in then?
I look forwards to hearing from you through the more normal business channels and look forwards to welcoming bPlan hardware to the AmigaOS family.
fleecy moss
cto
amiga inc
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Posted by SlimJim on 07-Nov-2002 06:39 GMT
It would be nice to have some official reply from BPlan/thendic on fleecy's
question before you all retire to the "normal business channels" ;-)
(It would be even nicer if this could be solved once and for all)
.
SlimJim
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Posted by T_Bone on 07-Nov-2002 06:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (fleecy moss):
"That means meeting agreed levels of quality, sales and support as demanded by the Amiga users, dealers, developers and most important post sale support. With that in mind, do you intend replacing all existing Pegasos boards sold with the Articia chipset bug in then? "
They'd only need to do that on the boards designated and licensed for OS4, correct?
Why "existing" boards? they arn't licensed by your terms anyway.
A system that runs both AmigaOS4 and PegasOS would be sweet.
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Posted by fleecy moss on 07-Nov-2002 06:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (T_Bone):
Hey there 8-)
whils that is true, we wouldn't be too happy to work with a company that applies double standards to some of its customers over others. Of course this is a good example of why we are demanding a certification agreement and demonstrates the value of such a mechanism to existing and potential AmigaOS customers.
cheers
fleecy moss
cto
amiga inc
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Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 07-Nov-2002 06:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (T_Bone):
[Quote]A system that runs both AmigaOS4 and PegasOS would be sweet.[/Quote]
I think you meant MorphOS :-)
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Posted by SlimJim on 07-Nov-2002 06:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (fleecy moss):
@fleecy
Haven't you heard, we are all being friendly on ANN nowadays...Get with
flower-giving program, man! ;-)
.
SlimJim
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Posted by Raquel and Bill on 07-Nov-2002 07:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (fleecy moss):
Wow Fleecy!
We cannot think of anyone better to have the chance to answer in such a public forum. Thank you for posting.
As you well know, we have had this discussion before, but maybe we can try again more constructively this time. We make and distribute the Pegasos. We sell it. Hyperion is developing OS4. We have offered them a board as a healing gesture of cooperation to bring the community a little bit closer together. For the moment it stops there. Would you like to have further discussions? We can as you suggested. In the meanwhile, perhaps, the same Resellers that have been selected to distribute "Amiga" products could handle the standard you have mentioned: "meeting agreed levels of quality, sales and support as demanded by the Amiga users, dealers, developers and most important post sale support." Certainly, for the benefit of the community, you can sort this out with them directly. We should avoid our historical difficulties for the benefit of all.
As for the Articia chipset "bug" -- have you made a public announcement? The facts concerning this matter are most certainly to be made public by Mai Logic as they determine -- not us. We can only say that Gerald Carda and Thomas Knäbel were able to work with Mai directly to solve any challenges that we may have experienced. bplan has an excellent relationship with Mai. Gerald Carda spent ten days at their offices in Fremont, California in October and we are quite satisfied to move ahead with the Articia chipset. Mai has supported us well.
Finally, all Pegasos boards will be sold without defect or replaced without question. Our Betatesters are aware of this and all Betatester II buyers have received the same assurance. We are fully committed to the satisfaction of anyone who purchases a Pegasos. They will be on sale as the First Commercial Release of the Pegasos soon!
Best regards,
Raquel and Bill
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Posted by fleecy on 07-Nov-2002 07:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Raquel and Bill):
Hey Bill 8-)
This all sounds very encouraging. I look forwards to hearing from you and/or Pegasos OEMs to move this forwards.
cheers
fleecy moss
cto
amiga inc
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Nov-2002 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (fleecy moss):
>This requires a licence, which is available from us.
You precious "AmigaOne" license? *lol*
>do you intend replacing all existing Pegasos boards sold with the Articia
>chipset bug in then?
In fact they do, customers will get a swap. Funny you asked, since it was
them who went to MAI to work this issue out. Now may I ask if your AmigaOne
customers will get their boards replaced, too?
And what about the T-shirts - people had good trust in AInc. but the only
ones that got T-shirts are the Pegasos buyers. What is your quality assurance
in this matter?
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Nov-2002 07:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (fleecy moss):
>Of course this is a good example of why we are demanding a certification agreement
>and demonstrates the value of such a mechanism to existing and potential AmigaOS customers.
*Sigh*
You are making this up, man. Thendic stand behind every product they sell.
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Posted by dammy on 07-Nov-2002 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (fleecy moss):
Wasn't the certification, orginally, was to insure hardware compatiablility issues? Or is just now down to the raw naked truth that it's about your royality monies and nothing but your royality monies?
Dammy
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Posted by Björn Hagström on 07-Nov-2002 07:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
And you are reading things that simply are not there.
He was not saying that _Thendic_ is doing that. He was talking about a theoretical company doing that.
If even Thendic themselves can see that, then why can't you?
Are you simply full of too much hate to not press the Nuke button before thinking?
/Björn
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Posted by DaveW on 07-Nov-2002 07:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
*sigh* whilst Im glad Bill&Raquel ignored the barb the barb itself did not
read to me about standing by products but by shipping a product to one and
not another for political reasons.
( not judging here, just rewording what I think it was supposed to say )
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Posted by Don Cox on 07-Nov-2002 07:28 GMT
When people publish interviews on their web sites, could they please
include the date?
Otherwise somebody returning to the Amiga world and looking for
information can be reading a year old interview and thinking it is up
to date information.
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Posted by CyberZorro on 07-Nov-2002 07:32 GMT
Please Fleecy, tell me one good reason why Thendic should pay you for this ridiculous "license". You have got nothing on your side except the "name" which gets more valueless every day because of your dishonorable measures.
Why not accept your failure and give Amiga back to where it belongs: the community? You have nothing to lose any more..
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Posted by SlimJim on 07-Nov-2002 07:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (DaveW):
Actually, I think fleecy sounds a bit disillusioned about this whole affair.
.
SlimJim
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Nov-2002 07:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Björn Hagström):
>He was talking about a theoretical company doing that.
Yes, a theoretical company - let's call them "T.".
You obviously didn't read the comment he was refering to.
But I'm not going to argue about that any further since
all is in peace & harmony now. >:-)
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Posted by Steve on 07-Nov-2002 07:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (fleecy moss):
Hello Fleecy,
"an OEM copy must ship with each board/machine."
Please no!!!! This is a Microsoft policy!! Please don't do the same. This exact policy what criticized by a lot of IT companies in the PC world, like Be Inc (Who even start a lawsuit against Microsoft for this reason) or the Linux community for very good reasons! WE WANT CHOICE! Let people have choice! Don't force resellers/distributor that want OS 4 to sell it with all the boards they sell. Some people don't want or need OS 4 (particularly the Linux community). That's why it's not good to sell it with ALL boards. It'd be better to sell it to people that ask for it.
Bye
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Posted by Björn Hagström on 07-Nov-2002 07:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
I did and I managed to grasp it the first try instead of reading hell and all into it like you did.
/Björn
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Posted by Nowee on 07-Nov-2002 07:44 GMT
Hello.
One quick note to stand against theese 'more professional places'
where too many people seems to be hiding too often. All this is
our problem, and I think it wise anyone can read, and appreciate,
the efforts from both sides to come to an agreement. Furthermore,
I'm quite sure every place is good when you need to speak, and
that the more public the place is, the more careful a society
ought to be within it's announcements.
I'll look forward Mr Hermans moving to get his brand new Pegasos.
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Posted by SLimJim on 07-Nov-2002 07:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Steve):
This is an old old subject, prone to flaming and hard feelings, but isn't what
he really means
"an OEM copy [of OS4] must be shipped with all boards capable of running it",
- capable of running it meaning supplied with a dongle. In other words, you
wouldn't buy a board capable of running AOS4 (donglelized) unless you intended
to run it, is the idea behind what he's saying, not "all boards". The Linux people
in your example isn't forced onto anything - that's his point as I understand it.
And yes there are thousands of opinions why this is right/wrong. We don't want
to hear them again.
.
SLimJim
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Posted by T_Bone on 07-Nov-2002 07:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
[Quote]A system that runs both AmigaOS4 and PegasOS would be sweet.[/Quote]
Whoops, it got Morphed :)
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Posted by Nowee on 07-Nov-2002 07:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (SLimJim):
What? don't you want to hear about freedom of speech ? or people
that keeps telling others what to do ? ;))))
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Posted by priest on 07-Nov-2002 07:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (fleecy moss):
I thought Hyperion is free to develop OS4 to pegasos, as long as they do not release it before the board is certified (or something like that) by AI...
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Posted by T_Bone on 07-Nov-2002 08:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (fleecy moss):
@fleecy
"whils that is true, we wouldn't be too happy to work with a company that applies double standards to some of its customers over others. Of course this is a good example of why we are demanding a certification agreement and demonstrates the value of such a mechanism to existing and potential AmigaOS customers. "
I understand, however most (all?) boards shipped are "betatester" boards, and I would assume that boards you license wouldn't be "betatester" boards, but final product. holding "betatester" boards to QC standards meant for released product, and even in a different product line, sold through a VAR, is... well, not benefitting anyone anyway.
not that it's in any way my decision/influence, I'll let you work it out amongst yourselves =D
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Posted by SlimJim on 07-Nov-2002 08:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (priest):
Don't you think Hyperion might be a little reluctant to do that, in case no such
licensing deal comes through in the end?
(on the other hand, it's yet another viable hardware platform to sell to - they
might find it a risk worth taking. Who knows?)
.
SlimJim
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Posted by priest on 07-Nov-2002 08:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (dammy):
The licence is FREE!
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Posted by priest on 07-Nov-2002 08:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (CyberZorro):
It's FREE!
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Posted by Björn Hagström on 07-Nov-2002 08:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Steve):
Only those boards that are to be sold with AOs4 (or capability to run AOS4, meaning , has the dongle mechanism) has to be licensed and bundled for/with AOS4. Only those who want AOS4 has to pay for it. Thendic can sell any amount of non licensed boards without aos4.
See the licensed boards and unlicensed boards as two separate products. One is licensed with the dongle mechanism, the other one isn't.
/Björn
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Posted by priest on 07-Nov-2002 08:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Steve):
people who do not want AmigaOS4 will not buy the HW with the OS4 dongle
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Posted by priest on 07-Nov-2002 08:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (priest):
because the same pegasos would be available for them without the dongle
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Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 07-Nov-2002 08:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (SLimJim):
[Quote]
This is an old old subject, prone to flaming and hard feelings, but isn't what
he really means
"an OEM copy [of OS4] must be shipped with all boards capable of running it",
- capable of running it meaning supplied with a dongle. In other words, you
wouldn't buy a board capable of running AOS4 (donglelized) unless you intended
to run it, is the idea behind what he's saying, not "all boards". The Linux people
in your example isn't forced onto anything - that's his point as I understand it.
And yes there are thousands of opinions why this is right/wrong. We don't want
to hear them again.
[/Quote]
I fully agree with you SlimJim.
And about the "Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck"/"Fleecy Moss" thing, I think they should email each other instead.
I think this looks uprofessional from "Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck"!
This is the big: "Now you all can see that we made the "big" offer to Hyperion and now you can see that Amiga Inc. is the big wulf!!!"
@"Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck"
If you want AmigaOS 4 to get more users, then get the license.
Lots of people here, on amiga.org, ... has said that they would like the Pegasos board, but they want to run AmigaOS on it (there is also lots of people that want to run MorphOS, but this is about the Amiga-users).
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Posted by Steve on 07-Nov-2002 08:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (SLimJim):
Hello SlimJim,
So they are really complicating the life. I'll just give an example.
Someone want a board with Linux, so it get a board without the dongle
thing. Then he want AmigaOS 4, what happen? He need to update his
firmware to get the dongle?
Isn't this just a bit complicate just for a "piracy protection" and/or
a licence??
(And in fact that'll protect nothing if we look on what the past have
proved on this kind of protections)
Sorry, bu I really don't see why they need such a policy, it's really
not useful at all and will bring nothing to the customer. A
motherboard is a motherboard, it can be certified for his quality
and his ability to run an OS without having to put any dongle or any
things like: "you must sell an OS 4 copy with each board".
Here I just try to say that their licence scheme will not bting
avantages to both hardware makers or customers. On the contrary this
will make them selling less OS 4 than what they could sell with a more
open scheme.
So ok you can certify the hardware, but please do not force open
hardware maker (i.e: POP motherboards makers) to put any any dongle or
any other proprietary stuff on their board. These are PowerPC Open
Platform boards, do you know what Open means? This mean no proprietary
stuff on the board even for the firmware. Putting a dongle on an
OpenFirmware break the IEEE standards of the OpenFirmware and of
course break the open caracteristic of this hardware.
Bye
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Posted by priest on 07-Nov-2002 08:17 GMT
Hey, is it true that all that is (almost) ready of the MorphOS is the A-Box with extensions? And so far all apps run in the A-Box? So the Q-Box is not finished / not started yet?
...the user options might be:
- use the real AmigaOS (OS4) with pegasos
- use the A-Box (AmigaOS emulator) with pegasos (and hope that the real MorphOS (Q-Box) appears some day)
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Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 07-Nov-2002 08:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (priest):
@priest
[Quote]The licence is FREE![/Quote]
I don't think that they understand the word free.
But what could be used instead:
no cost, free (oh no not that word) ...
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Posted by strobe on 07-Nov-2002 08:20 GMT
The license is hardly Microsoft Windows-like. Microsoft only requires a license for bundling their OS with the hardware. I can (and have) bought and installed Windows on PCs I built myself.
I would prefer the Windows "license".
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Posted by SlimJim on 07-Nov-2002 08:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Steve):
@Steve
Well, you make a good, clean, post but this subject is so beaten to death that
all it can lead to is flaming now. Join Seehund in his petition. I wonder if
he ever got around to actually sending it to Amiga?
.
SlimJim
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Posted by Anonymous on 07-Nov-2002 08:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
This is BS, AmigaOne is able to run OS4 and it NOT shipped with it, too!!!
So they break their own license.
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Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 07-Nov-2002 08:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (priest):
priest wrote:
[Quote]
Hey, is it true that all that is (almost) ready of the MorphOS is the A-Box with extensions? And so far all apps run in the A-Box? So the Q-Box is not finished / not started yet?
...the user options might be:
- use the real AmigaOS (OS4) with pegasos
- use the A-Box (AmigaOS emulator) with pegasos (and hope that the real MorphOS (Q-Box) appears some day)
[/Quote]
As I understand, the Q-Box works, but the only "aplication" that runs on it is A-Box ;O)
But then again: About all the famus chrashing, is this the Q-Box, that doesn't work, or is it the A-Box??? Or is it both of them?
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Posted by strobe on 07-Nov-2002 08:23 GMT
Also, one very important thing. I don't want to have to flash PPCBoot (or Das U-Boot) on the Pegasos firmware in order to run AOS4. This would be a deal-breaker.
bPlan's firmware implementation, on paper, is superior. It would allow PC BIOS and Opem Firmware-based cards to be used. I find OF easier to debug as well which is useful if I would ever develop drivers for a card.
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Posted by Jon on 07-Nov-2002 08:24 GMT
Now make the dreams come true!
If the core teams of the market can behave and smile to each other, I can't see no reason why us - the community could not...
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