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Posted on 07-Nov-2002 05:12 GMT by Scott Pistorino313 comments
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Posted by Kamel on 08-Nov-2002 21:23 GMT
Hi There,
I know Hyperion already made their point about PPP vs X86, don' know about Thendic/MOS team, but I will really appreciate your comments about Dave Haynie post in comp.sys.amiga.hardware. (paste below)
Cheers
Kamel
>I have a question... Maybe or Maybe not you will see this... (I will
>probably get flamed for asking this).
>What is your feeling on X86 as processor compared to PPC in terms of
>Amiga?
The x86 processor market today (including Intel, AMD, VIA, Transmeta,
and a few others on the fringe) is dramatically better suited for what
the Amiga was. This is the ONLY desktop CPU left, period.
It's curious that so many people seem to think in terms of duality --
there should be two desktop CPUs, two predominant desktop OSs (which
is, I suppose, why anyone still mentioned MacOS, though I think
GNU/Linux will take its place, soon enough), etc. I think that was
more of a historical chance, and it's just as likely that you have two
predominant desktop CPU companies. If they happen to make compatible
CPUs, it actually makes their lock on the market stronger.
That may also be a feak of the marketplace, though. Coopetition is
rare; already, the x86 market is splitting. Initially it's at the
server/workstation level (AMD offering the compatible upgrade, Intel
assuming they can leverage loyalty into a potentially better
architecture), but it'll be on the desktop in six months or so.
>I feel that although some applications would be lost the price bieng
>so much cheaper it might be a better alternative to use X86 for a
>possible AmigaOS based board.
Why would ANY applications be lost? There are zero AmigaOS 4.0/PPC
applications shipping today. You could, presumably, run old AmigaOS
applications in a form of compatibility box on the PPC Amiga. But I
can do that, today, on Macs, Windows PCs, Linux, SunOS, etc. No loss
of application beyond the graphics issues, which are always at least
going to be fewer in a full-fledged emulator than an API-host or some
simpler compatibility environment.
>I could give Amiga more exposure and also leave room for applications
>to be ported?.
And it would lower the barrier to entry. If AmigaOS 4.0 shipped for
$100 and ran on the hardware I already own, I would buy it. There's no
way in the world I would buy an expensive, relatively slow computer
just to run AmigaOS 4.0 -- I just don't see the allure. This isn't
something hot and new, like BeOS, it's something that's MAYBE a nice,
comfortable upgrade from the Amiga 3.x.
>Do you think PowerPC has a bright future?
No, I think it's going to die, on the desktop, as soon as Apple
decides to stop paying chip companies to tweak it up for them. Unless
IBM gets serious about desktop PPC -- IBM has the money and the
knowledge to do this. But rarely the ability, the stones, or the
overall vision to pull it off. Look at all the cash they put into
OS/2, which absolutely was a better OS than Windows, but couldn't be
made successful.
>do you think Amiga would be
>better served if it had gone X86 instead of PowerPC?
Yes, absolutely, unquestionably.
I don't know if the new AmigaOS has a chance. But I'd at least give it
some decent chance of becoming a comfortable niche OS if it were on
x86. I would get it, and make the effort to find it useful, just as I
did with BeOS and Linux. On the PPC, it might as well not exist, far
as I'm concerned. Amiga sold hardware because it was interesting,
exciting, leading edge if not always bleeding edge. If the A1000 was a
2MHz 6809 with no copper/blitter/graphics/sound, who would have cared
how cool the OS was? That's basically the situation today, in modern
terms.
Dave Haynie | Chief Toady, Frog Pond Media Consulting
dhaynie@jersey.net| "The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful" - J.Buffett
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Posted by strobe on 08-Nov-2002 21:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 298 (Amon_Re):
Oh good grief...
If you sell a POP-based computer, chances are it WILL run MorphOS but not AmigaOS 4! Thanks for making my point for me.
Your examples are so removed from reality I'm surprised by CRT doesn't suck into a black hole into another dimension. Have you EVER bought a PC in your LIFE?!
Watch me: I buy a PC, I buy Windows, I install Windows on the PC. Gosh, I guess I've been the only one on the planet doing this since if more people did SOCIETY ITSELF WOULD STALL AND DIE!
I can't wait for your next strained analogy. What next, people war dialing Amiga Inc.?
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Posted by strobe on 08-Nov-2002 21:35 GMT
You know, I was just thinking of all the times I used OPENSTEP or BeOS or BSD(i) or Windows. Gosh, how did I ever survive without a license which required the OS to be tied to a specific dongled piece of hardware. Must have been pure luck. Maybe I passed out when I was dialing NeXT, Be, BSDI, and Microsoft...I knew I had four phones lines for a reason...it's all making sense now...
Thank THE LORD that Amiga Inc. had the foresight to limit my hardware choices! Who knows what a mess I would have gottem myself into. After all I'm a retarded balding reces monkey covered with poop, certainly not somebody who can think for himself.
Now it all makes sense. Sorry for ever questioning the wisdom of Amiga Inc!
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Posted by Amon_Re on 08-Nov-2002 21:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 302 (strobe):
I tried remaining friendly, and stay clear of underhanded remarks, so this will be my last post to you strobe.
I actually repair computers (macs & pc's) for a living, and my post was based on my experiance from working in computershops, if you find that bit hard to swallow, or you think i'm wrong, that's your right, and i won't deny you your right to an opinion.
Anyways, enjoy the ride & have fun
Amon_Re
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Posted by RLFrost on 09-Nov-2002 00:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 279 (DaveW):
" Why can't you see the need for this scheme in such a microscopic market in the first place? These people invested lots of cash in these projects, it's only logical they'd want to make sure they atleast get a break-even afterwards
Amon_Re"
Amon,
The scheme exudes control. If the OS is worth a hoot, it will sell well. I don't care to make decisions for anyone else, but if it makes any difference, AmigaOS with this scheme is not a possibility for me. I "own"-- that is to say that I have bought, paid for, and have original disks and registration numbers(where they apply)-- for every single version of AmigaOS that was ever for sale on this planet. During the past 17 years or so, I have upgraded to just about every piece of hardware that was for sale under the Amiga logo. Further, I would bet that with the exception of games, that I have bought nearly every software title that was available for AmigaOS. Although I make my living using Windows OS's of various kinds, I don't have a single copy of Windows in my house for personal use because of the OS licensing restrictions. It prevents me from building a computer of choice and using hardware of choice without permission from Microsoft. Do they care? You bet you don't. In the microscopic market that you describe, should A Inc. care? You bet they should.
I don't want to get into a fight or beat this issue to death. I just want you to know that for that one reason I have personally decided not to be a player in the Amiga game any longer. I think it is a paranoid and childish attitude.
See ya,
RLFrost
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Posted by samface on 09-Nov-2002 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 276 (Seehund):
Oh please. Go back and read my comment again, I'm so way beyond you in my arguments. You're like two or three steps behind, catch up and our discussion *may* become constructive. No, I'm not saying this out of simple superiority.
Perhaps I need to state an example of what I mean:
>> have the thought that this is actually causing more damage than helping ever
>> crossed your mind, Seehund?
>
> Damage to whom or what, and how? What is it you think could cause damage to
> something? Actually selling the software, or just people saying that the
> software should be available for sale?
So, claiming that:
* the AmigaOne is not an "Amiga" computer at all
* Amiga Inc. isn't interested in the Amiga desktop market at all
* their hardware licensing policies will kill the Amiga market
* they are repeating the mistakes of commodore
all over every computer related news website on the net isn't the slightest little bit of damaging PR? I mean, if you haven't followed the Amiga the last decade, why should you even bother looking at it if this is the information you get? I'm telling you: IT ISN'T HELPING YOUR CAUSE! It will only make people look away and most definitly contribute to your doom predictions. And if this happens, like the little prick that you are, you will probably go around telling everyone how right you were.
Again, read my earlier post all over and rethink you're reply. Your arguments are simply too far behind in order for this discussion to be constructive.
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Nov-2002 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 306 (samface):
Yeah, that's damaging PR and it's not tolerated, while going around saying that
MorphOS is illegal, is tolerated... Ah go to a doctor, PLEASE...
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Posted by DaveW on 09-Nov-2002 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 307 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I think both are issues that are best described as dirty linen
that are not washed in public anymore.
Sure amongst ourselves but on Slashdot, OSNEWS etc are not doing us any good.
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Posted by samface on 09-Nov-2002 14:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 307 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I've never said MorphOS is illegal, that would only be for a court to decide. How ever, I have discussed the legal issues about MorphOS on Amiga forums. BUT, I've never spread it as facts on other computer related news sites and neither have I started any petitions against MorphOS.
How would you feel about it if I did, Alkis?
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 09-Nov-2002 22:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 309 (samface):
Look, *I* didn't say that what you or he did isn't wrong.
Both kinds of negative PR are "bad".
And YOU may have not brought it out but others did.
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Posted by samface on 10-Nov-2002 08:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 310 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Well, I wouldn't go to the extent that discussing negative things about either side of the OS war would be bad. I mean, we've got to be able to voice our opinions and concerns, right? However, what Seehund is doing has crossed the line of simply raising a debate.
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Posted by Marcus Sundman on 11-Nov-2002 10:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 158 (Björn Hagström):
> Anonymous said in 106 that comment 91 is wrong. Which it isn't. As Ben
> confirmed in post 107.
> So when ben said that 106 is wrong in saying that 91 is wrong, ben is right.
Comment 106 must be correct (by definition) since it is all but equivalent to the executive update. ("ALL hardware capable of running AmigaOS MUST be sold with a copy of AmigaOS" and "we will require [...] that a copy of Amiga OS is purchased with all boards sold that are capable of running it.")
All hardware capable of running AOS must indeed be sold with a copy of AOS, REGARDLESS of what the buyer WANTS. Could I buy e.g. an AmigaOne without AOS if I don't WANT to run AOS? No, of course not. (Why someone would want to do that is of course irrelevant.) The license doesn't say that you have to WANT to run AOS on the machine, but simply that the machine is CAPABLE of running AOS.
Perhaps "Anonymous" and/or Ben meant something else than what they wrote. I won't comment on that. I've simply commented on what was written.
- Marcus Sundman
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Posted by John Klumpp on 11-Nov-2002 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 180 (strobe):
Hmmm! Isn't it ONLY in comedy movies that a man would complain that, although he had a vasectomy in the past, he STILL expected to be able to Father a child at SOME time in the Future?
Would YOU buy a computer with a soldered-in CPU if you were planing to upgrade the CPU?
Would YOU buy an A2000 and expect to use a ZorroIII card at full speed?
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