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Posted on 19-Nov-2002 13:26 GMT by Peter Gordon (Edited on 2002-11-19 14:39:43 GMT by Christian Kemp)111 comments
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The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 101 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 20-Nov-2002 22:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 99 (Fabio alemagna):
>>Read Darrin's post, a few comments below yours and a few above mine, to have a sense of what I was talking about. I don't even feel like answering, to that nazi-like dude.
>>Of course he's just a representative of one extreme, unfortunately many others are of about the same like of thinking, although not as extremist.
LOL - You really are completely clueless aren't you?
It because of "people" like you that people in the UK want nothing to do with the EU incase we turn into ignorant, self opinionated facists. Yes, that's correct - YOU are the facist because you want to burdon everyone with YOUR own personal opinion just like a certain dictator you tried to compare me to.
"One Fabio! One Europe!! One World!!!" Sheesh, give me a break.
Why don't you just admit that you have:
1. No sense of humour.
2. No clue about the outside world.
3. Failed Geography in school (along with History and Politics).
4. A deep jealousy that you don't have a British passport.
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 102 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 20-Nov-2002 22:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (Darrin):
I did accidentally miss Mexico from my list of countries that make up the North American continent. My apologies to any Mexicans reading…
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 103 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 20-Nov-2002 22:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (Darrin):
Darrin, please, take a chill pill, will you? You won't drag me in a flamebait with you, 'cause there's really nothing to talk about with you: you are the proof that I was right in saying what I said.
Just one note: I have nothing against others having other opinions than mine, but facts are facts, that's all. I even conceded that you can admit the existence of 7 continents, as that's what they teach in USA and in UK, and probably a few other places, but in the rest of the Europe they teach that America is just ONE continent, and that's all, get over it.
However, doesn't matter if they are 6 or 7, what matters is that America is the name of the whole lot (otherwise you couldn't say South and North America, could you?), and therefore it doesn't refer only to the USA. I'm sorry for you and other arrogant people, but that's the reality, get over it.
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 104 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 20-Nov-2002 22:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 103 (Fabio Alemagna):
Dear Fabio, this is getting silly...
>>Darrin, please, take a chill pill, will you? You won't drag me in a flamebait with you, 'cause there's really nothing to talk about with you: you are the proof that I was right in saying what I said.
No, YOUR attitude is proof that you obviously don't understand what I have written and that I was obviously right in my later posts. If you lived local then I'd invite you around for some beers and force you to watch at least 6 hours of "Monty Python" in order educate you in British humour. Then perhaps you'll understand.
>>Just one note: I have nothing against others having other opinions than mine, but facts are facts, that's all.
LOL - That reads well. In other words you feel that other people can have opinions, but yours are right and theirs are wrong. Excellent.
>>I even conceded that you can admit the existence of 7 continents, as that's what they teach in USA and in UK, and probably a few other places,
Lot's of other places actually. Africa knows there are 7 continents and my Australian fiancé confirms that even Oz knows there's 7 too! Now if I can just contact some polar scientists and someone from China then we can prove that the people on 6 of the seven know there ARE seven while just a few countries on the 1 remaining continent believe there are only six (or in some cases 5). I rest my case.
>>but in the rest of the Europe they teach that America is just ONE continent, and that's all, get over it.
Strange. When I lived in Germany I know some Dutch and German people who thought there were SEVEN continents too.... I believe the French think there are 8 as they consider France important enough to be a continent in its own right.
>>However, doesn't matter if they are 6 or 7, what matters is that America is the name of the whole lot (otherwise you couldn't say South and North America, could you?),
No. The AMERICAS (note the "s" on the end) refers to the whole lot. And do you know why it's plural? It's because there are TWO continents!!!
>>and therefore it doesn't refer only to the USA. I'm sorry for you and other arrogant people, but that's the reality, get over it.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're still wrong. Still, this is much better than arguing over whether MOS is better than OS4 (or vice versa). :)
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 105 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 20-Nov-2002 22:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
> Hint - go to the IOC website and research their documents - you will find that
> thy say the 5 rings represent "THE 5 continents" but they do NOT state which
> those 5 are - they most certainly do NOT claim that Australia is in Asia, which
> it absolutely is not.
Right, Australia is not in Asia, and Alkis corrected himself right after that post, but since they are 5, and since Australia and Asia are in two different continents, and since those rings don't include Antarctica for sure, I let you guess what do they refer to...
...
Guessed? Ok, here's the answer: America, Asia, Europe, Africa and Oceania. I also explained what color refers to what continent.
Oh, and there is only _one_ America there, did you notice?
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 106 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 20-Nov-2002 23:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (Fabio Alemagna):
OK, this has been bugging me soooooo much that I've dug around and found this information (basically, we're ALL correct to some extent, but obviously the British are more correct than everyone else):
How many continents are on the earth?
A continent is one of several major land masses on the earth. There is no standard definition for the number of continents but you'll commonly find that the numbers six or seven are used. By most standards, there are a maximum of seven continents - Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America, and South America. Most students in the U.S. are taught that there are seven continents.
In Europe, many students are taught about six continents, where North and South America is combined to form a single America. Thus, these six continents are Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe.
Many geographers and scientists now refer to six continents, where Europe and Asia are combined (since they're one solid landmass). Thus, these six continents are Africa, Antarctica, Australia, Eurasia, North America, and South America.
The National Geographic Society recognizes seven continents.
So, many Europeans (not all) combine the Americas into one continent, while the scientists think they are seperate and belive that Europe and Asia should be combined instead! Personally, I'll go with the Americans for dividing their land mass into two continents as it is THEIR land mass so it should be their decision. Plus, if the National Geographic Society says there are 7 then who am I to argue.
Go to "http://www.geography.about.com" for lots more trivia. :)
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 107 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 21-Nov-2002 08:42 GMT
how scary to think that this convo is all the fault of little ol england ;-)
i refer to the USA as 'america' as do many other people as although its not technically correct, if you use a slang word for a long time it becomes part of your vocab. plus seeing as how we england types named it in the first place (aparently) i have final say so declare this discussion null and void ;-p
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 108 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 21-Nov-2002 12:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (Darrin):
You're ridiculous. Then I could say that Greece is a different continent and
that I have the right to say that as it's "my" landmass? LOL!
It's not theirs that's for sure...
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 109 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 21-Nov-2002 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 108 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I see the humour in my comments has gone over your head too. Sheesh, I expected better from you Alkis, but I guess you just recognised me as "pro-Amiga Inc" and just had to have a go at my remarks regardless of whether you understood them or not. Sad, very sad.
And let's not talk about the loonies in Greece that are soooooo paranoid that they feel they have to lock up "plane spotters" in order to maintain national security. As if a foreign government is going to be interested in the worn out bi-planes that the "modern" Greek airforce fly. ;-)
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 110 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Iggy Drougge on 22-Nov-2002 00:14 GMT
Couldn't we calm down a little bit here?
Geographical definitions vary between countries and schools and also in time. And between languages. I've always considered Eurasia to be one continent, but Europe and Asia as different entities. There are two words for that in Swedish, but apparently not in English or Italian. Claiming that Europe is a separate continent just sounds silly to me, and contradicts what I've been taught in school.
As for America vs. USA vs. America, look at it this way. The USA could be regarded as a very old, more integrated counterpart to the EU. 150 years or so back, it stopped expanding, so it never fulfilled its dream of really uniting all of America, but much of the terminology persists. Look at the European Union. It only comprises half of Europe, yet claims to be "the" European union. It becomes rahter funny when you look at the map of Europe on Euro coins. Where is Norway? That's not Europe, nowadays. Ignorant? Perhaps. It's still common terminology, and more so in the case of "America". While we might say USA a whole lot nowadays, that's rather because we view America, or the Americas, as comprised of a whole lot of countries and not just a big landmass with colonies and cheap real estate nowadays, along with a modern-day fondness for three letter acronyms. Old people often say America, referring to at least North America, and oft the rest of the continents, too.
The Inquirer covers Elbox's "open letter" : Comment 111 of 111ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 22-Nov-2002 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Darrin):
I didn't mark you as pro-Amiga Inc. I just defend what I know and what is
written in the books I read. Only in one book did I see America split in two.
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