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[News] AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python?ANN.lu
Posted on 24-Nov-2002 20:36 GMT by Bill Hoggett94 comments
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According to Irmen de Jong, the AmigaPython website maintainer, the Python programming language may be included as standard with AmigaOS 4.0.

From the AmigaPython site:

UPDATE november 2002: from very reliable sources I know that AmigaPython might become part of the new Amiga OS 4.0 ! What AREXX was for AmigaDOS 2.x and 3.x, AmigaPython might be for the next generation of Amiga OS (and much more powerful of course)

Further information about Python is available at the Python Home Page.

AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 1 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Nov-2002 19:42 GMT
Oh no, where is PPC assembler?! The Amiga comunity should be strong at programming again like the old times (68k assembler).
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 2 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 24-Nov-2002 19:57 GMT
Well the inclusion of Python is honourable no doubt but personally I am not a friend of Python. I never liked it. Perl is the better alternative since Perl programmers are welcome and could find a job easier in the Unix world. While we talk about putting some development programms into AmigaOS4.0 why not embedd vbcc or gcc natively into AmigaOS4.0 so people could start development out of the box ?
Anyways this all is highly speculative I think and before we discuss the pro and cons about Python I would like to see a final AmigaOS4.0 that at least does what it promises.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 3 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by No_name on 24-Nov-2002 20:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
You're so right!
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 4 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 24-Nov-2002 20:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (- GALAXY -):
> Well the inclusion of Python is honourable no doubt but personally I am not
> a friend of Python. I never liked it. Perl is the better alternative since
> Perl programmers are welcome and could find a job easier in the Unix world.
Perl and Python are different languages and have different strengths and weaknesses. They shouldn't be compared too closely unless you think comparing ARexx and C is constructive. IMHO both ought to be included as standard with all modern operating systems.
> While we talk about putting some development programms into AmigaOS4.0 why
> not embedd vbcc or gcc natively into AmigaOS4.0 so people could start
> development out of the box ?
Well, "embed" is not the right word here, because I wouldn't like to see any of AmigaOS embedded at all. However, I agree that gcc should be included with the OS and the users given the option of installing it from the AmigaOS distribution CD. I think selling a separate developer's CD with all the development material is a mistake and discourages the casual programmer from "having a go".
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 5 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Nov-2002 20:38 GMT
Maybe the Amiga users would like to see a decent quality web browser/s instead of half assed browsers like Ibrowse and Voyager which are really poor and what makes it worst they are not free unless of course you use pirate copies.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 6 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 24-Nov-2002 20:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
> Maybe the Amiga users would like to see a decent quality web browser/s
> instead of half assed browsers like Ibrowse and Voyager which are really
> poor and what makes it worst they are not free unless of course you use
> pirate copies.
Then why don't you stop carping about and start programming instead?
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 7 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 24-Nov-2002 21:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
"Maybe the Amiga users would like to see a decent quality web browser/s instead of half assed browsers
like Ibrowse and Voyager which are really poor and what makes it worst they are not free unless of course
you use pirate copies."
Adding more programming languages isn't going to slow down the
development of the browsers.
The Amiga should have versions of all the well known languages, and if
some of them can have routines included for addressing the "ARexx"
message ports, they would then be useful for scripting.
I notice that the new GoldED CD is to come with gcc.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 8 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Q on 24-Nov-2002 21:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
I agree Amiga desperately needs a decent browser, but c'mon, Voyager
isn't exactly expensive (about 10UKP or something) and AWeb is open
source. Let's at least keep the moaning to the facts.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 9 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 24-Nov-2002 21:25 GMT
The more the merrier.
We have read that mac on linux works on the amoga one.
Wonder if any beta testers have tried pcx or pc task
We may get the thing running windows.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 10 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by David Shipman on 24-Nov-2002 21:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Bill Hoggett):
"Perl and Python are different languages and have different strengths and weaknesses... IMHO both ought to be included as standard with all modern operating systems."
Of course, they should be _available_ to users of all modern OSs, but if you want to satisfy everyone, you'll see the list growing a lot larger than Perl and Python...
Moreover - what happened to SHEEP? It sounded very similar to Python (interpreted... simple code for simple tasks - power when it needs it). I'm guessing AI just couldn't justify the resources involved in reinventing this particular part of the wheel.
How about a language-agnostic approach to scripting ala BeOS? Provide useful scripting hooks at a low-level, and just provide bindings for those languages you see as "worth it" (in the short term). This way the community (or AI, or anyone really) can bind another language as they see fit.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 11 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by José on 24-Nov-2002 21:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
That shouldn't belong to the OS anyway.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 12 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 24-Nov-2002 21:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (David Shipman):
I think we shouldn't go for cryptic programming languages that no one has heard about before. We should better go for common ones either Perl or Python (to answer Bill Hoggett I know the difference of both since I'm used to them). Personally I still think that the accpetance of Perl is higher than the ones of Python.
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Posted by tinman on 24-Nov-2002 21:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (David Shipman):
SHEEP was for AmigaDE.
Weren't they working on PREXX though for the OS? (Thomas Richter's [IIRC] PPC reimplementation of AREXX)
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 14 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Nov-2002 22:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Don Cox):
> I notice that the new GoldED CD is to come with gcc.
Actually, it ships with with vbcc and gcc.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 15 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 24-Nov-2002 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (tinman):
I think PREXX ( sounds like Pricks to me :\ ) is going to be in OS 4 ... And I hope it will be as I doing something in Arexx now that I'd like to take with me to OS4 :).
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 16 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Nov-2002 22:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Q):
Voyager could be 1UKP but what is the use when it cant open web pages the user wants to see, i would be happy to buy a web browser what works but as far as current amiga browsers go they are really dreadfull unless you browse normal html and txt pages.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 17 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 24-Nov-2002 23:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (- GALAXY -):
Well, pardon me, but that's plain nonsense.
Unless you _want_ to get stuck at the sysadm-level of things ofcourse.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 18 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Allen on 25-Nov-2002 00:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (- GALAXY -):
Unrealistically, every language should be made available to increase the number of developers to the platform. Personally I don't like Python but there are so many programmers that are afraid of change and a different way of doing things, they feel their own abilities aren't worth as much as thay could be.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 19 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 25-Nov-2002 00:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Chris Allen):
Maybe it's not so much the language but what is being written using the python programming language. Fear of Change? Fear what you do not understand, but upon change towards understanding...... everything changes.....almost.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 20 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by George Wyche on 25-Nov-2002 03:36 GMT
I am excited at the prospect of OS4 getting Python support. Irmen had said on the Amiga Python site that 2.0 was to be the last he was willing to deal with and I didn't see anyone jump into to carry on.
I use Python2.0 every time I turn on my A1200 (and that's 5 days a week). It IS easy to use in place of AREXX to be sure. Furthermore I have been able to use my programs 100% unchanged (except for a config file) under WindowsNT and Solaris 2.6.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 21 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Petr Krenzelok on 25-Nov-2002 04:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (- GALAXY -):
Galaxy, Perl is dead, just accept it ;-) Who would use it these days? There are more modern solutions like Rebol, Curl, Ruby etc. Perl is for geeks, and if I would have to choose between the two menthioned, Python is the right way to go, as for the Arexx replacement ...
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 22 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Nov-2002 05:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Petr Krenzelok):
Might as well, be PHP, Visual Basic, or javascript. I don't care as long as it gets the job done.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 23 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 25-Nov-2002 06:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Petr Krenzelok):
Well, whilst PERL is ancient it's about as dead as COBOL. Unfortunatly they're both alive and kicking. I agree however that there are CONSIDERABLY better languages such as REBOL and I would pick Python over PERL hands down. :-)
The real question, however, is whether we'll see a PPC version of REBOL for OS 4.0.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 24 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by DB on 25-Nov-2002 06:53 GMT
I thought this was announced before.?? Python *and* Arexx for OS4.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 25 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by ANONYMOUS on 25-Nov-2002 07:06 GMT
DO YOU KNOW JARROD DE JONG?
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 26 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 25-Nov-2002 07:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Bill Hoggett):
> I think selling a separate developer's CD with all the development material is
> a mistake and discourages the casual programmer from "having a go"
AMEN to that. The Amiga market is way to small NOT to bundle development tools with the OS.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 27 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 25-Nov-2002 08:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (George Wyche):
"I use Python2.0 every time I turn on my A1200 (and that's 5 days a week). It IS easy to use in place of
AREXX to be sure. Furthermore I have been able to use my programs 100% unchanged (except for a
config file) under WindowsNT and Solaris 2.6. "
Are you saying it can already be used for scripting Amiga programs?
(Pagestream for instance.)
If so, I had better check it out.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 28 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 25-Nov-2002 09:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Petr Krenzelok):
Perl is human readable and a none coder can sometimes spot mistakes and fix them.
That's a massive advantage.
Less good is a program can fail because of a missing apostrophe.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 29 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 25-Nov-2002 09:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (John Block):
I dunno what planet you're from, but your definition of "human readable" obviously differs from mine.
Any language where this:
@P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\nrekcah xinU / lreP rehtona tsuJ";sub p{
@p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=$P[$f^ord
($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/ ^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p{$_}=~/^[P.]/&&
close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/&&<$_>}%p;$_=$d[$q];sleep rand(2)if/\S/;print
is allowed to run is NOT human readable by definition. This leaves out C and C++ as well. Python and Ada aren't bad, though.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 30 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Blom on 25-Nov-2002 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Ole-Egil):
On the other hand, what other programming languages allows the program to be rendered as Postscript as well as executed?
/;{}def/#{def}def/$_={/Times-Bold exch selectfont}#/_{rmoveto}#/"{dup}#/*/!/$
;/q{exch}#/x ; {/J q #}#/.{/T q #}#{stringwidth}#{}#{}# 14 string dup dup dup
260 40 moveto 90 rotate ; %/}};$0='"\e[7m \e[0m"';@ARGV=split//,reverse
q(ThePerl). q(Journal) x 220 ; q ; 0 T putinterval exch 7 J putinterval ;
; $_= q /m$ pop T($*!$"=!$ " )pop " * true% ? $ " $!" " !! !! % !" !" !
! charpath {!"""}pop $ pop{""!}pop ! neg{!#}pop 220 ! neg _{!!}pop J false %T
charpath clip " pop 0 " moveto 6{!!}pop $_= 105{!!}pop {$ ! $ " ! #! ##}
pop{dup dup $ ! " pop pop q{"}pop 22{dup show}repeat {"}pop q 22 mul{$ "} pop
neg{!#! $ "}pop ! 8 .65 mul{$ # # $}pop ! neg{"}pop _ pop{"}pop } repeat pop
" { $ " ! ! ! $ " ! !" "#" #"!"""""! #" " # "m/;@ARGV=(@ARGV[-14..-1])x50;q}
0 "%};s/m[ou]|[-\dA-ln-z.\n_{}]|\$_=//gx;s/(.)(?{$*=''})/('$*.='.(++$#
%2?'':"$0;").'pop;')x(ord($1)-31).'$*'/gee;s/((.(\e\[.m)*|.){77})/$1\n/g;print
; sub showpage {}
Truly a major advantage, isn't it?
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 31 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 25-Nov-2002 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Ole-Egil):
Maybe the perl programs I'm using are particularly clearly written and commented.
English can also be made incomprehensible.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 32 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 25-Nov-2002 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Petr Krenzelok):
> Galaxy, Perl is dead, just accept it ;-) Who would use it these days? There are
> more modern solutions like Rebol, Curl, Ruby etc. Perl is for geeks, and if I would
> have to choose between the two menthioned, Python is the right way to go, as
> for the Arexx replacement
Well, first of all PERL is NOT DEAD. Saying this is quite stupid and sounds not really serious. C is an ancient language as well - is it dead ? The IT market is full of announcements where little - bigger companies were seeking for people with that knowledge specially in the UNIX/Linux/BSD area. I agree that Python for sure has some advantages in rapid developent with OOP but it will never ever substitute PERL. Therefore my vote will always go to PERL.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 33 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 25-Nov-2002 10:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (John Block):
Not and still be considered proper english. What I posted was considered proper perl by the interpreter. See the difference?
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 34 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 25-Nov-2002 10:30 GMT
OK, here's what Thomas Frieden had to say about it on the AmigaOS4 mailing list [*].
"We have actively thought about adopting Python, but there are no firm plans yet. We need to find a substitute for ARexx in the long run, and Python came up as an option,"
In a separate post by a different member of the Hyperion team it emerges that PRexx appears to no longer be an option. The advantages of Python over Perl and PHP _IN_THIS_CONTEXT_ are also discussed.
[*] Posted with Thomas' permission.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 35 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Petr Krenzelok on 25-Nov-2002 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (- GALAXY -):
Perl is dead from AmigaOS perspective. If it lives in Unix underground, being mainly usefull on server consoles, so be it, but Perl would be imo strategic decision failure as far as AmigaOS is concerned ... too cryptic, too bloated ...
Look, we all would like to see our preferred languages to be used. I am completly rebol addicted, but still I think, that Python would be better option for AOS - it is free and will probably offer better app integration.
Rebol is turning more into communication platform, building GUI apps is relatively easy and I think it would be good if Hyperion would talk to RT to port Rebol/View to new OS, or Amiga will miss some nice cross platform apps ...
Cheers,
Petr
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 36 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 25-Nov-2002 10:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (- GALAXY -):
I've been advised a few times that support for perl is likly to be more expensive than other languages as it is a legacy language.
Also been told that many people don't like working with perl because it is fussy about punctuation.
From what I can see there are lots of perl programmers out there, and lots of people seem to be coding in it for fun.
My only python experience was attempting to get Mailman installed and working. Failed at this and got in asomeone who was offering a script installation service and they could not do it either.
Never ha
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 37 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 25-Nov-2002 11:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (John Block):
Well, look what mailman itself is written in and have a good laugh. :)
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 38 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 25-Nov-2002 11:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Kolbjørn Barmen):
My bad, I read perl where you wrote python.
I agree that mailman isnt exactly state of art though.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 39 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 25-Nov-2002 11:18 GMT
... This really affects my decission wether I may become a possible customer of AmigaOS4.0 or not. As I wrote earlier I'm no friend of Python and I avoid it like hell installing it on my Linux System. I know it's more or less a matter of personal taste but I tend to reflect the whole decission going for Python on the whole OS as well. I don't like the idea becoming tied to Python on my possible new OS. Hyperion is giving me a good reason to go for MorphOS or staying on my existing running Linux System and forget about all this. The reason why I cared for either Pegasos or AmigaONE was because I have the possibility to run Linux on it and get a native (Amiga feel/look like Operating System on top). So I don't make that big mistake if the native Operating Systems gonna fail. But knowing that Python is tied to AmigaOS makes it a NO option for me.
This is My personal opinion that don't necessarily reflect the opinions of others.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 40 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Petr Krenzelok on 25-Nov-2002 11:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (- GALAXY -):
I never programmed in Arexx myself back when I owned Amiga, so I don't know, what OS scripting hooks look like under the hood of native app. Saying that, why would not it be possible to teach each language to talk to app ports? Because that way, you can count on your favorite Perl too, as it will surely be ported or is already available under AOS ...
Petr
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 41 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 25-Nov-2002 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (- GALAXY -):
... anyways I forgot to say that I don't reflect the opinion of others. If the majority is all for python then be it that way. I don't want to make a stupif flame out of this. It's sometimes hard for older people getting used to new things such as new programming languages etc. It makes me sick learning new languages all 2 years because the older ones are rotting away.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 42 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 25-Nov-2002 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (- GALAXY -):
No offense guy but you are basing the choice of your operating system on the availability of a scripting language?
There are no plans to drop AREXX.
Python might come in at one point but AREXX will remain.
I'm pretty sure that no-one will force you to use Python.
If you really want PERL (often described as Pathetically Ecclectic Rubbish Language) then I'm sure that somebody can port it to OS 4.0 just as they can port the multitude of other scripting languages out there.
Frankly, whatever option we chose, there will always be drawbacks and benefits but at the end of the day, there are no impediments to porting additional open-source scripting languages.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 43 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Nov-2002 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
Stop whining and start programming :)
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 44 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 25-Nov-2002 12:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (- GALAXY -):
> This really affects my decission wether I may become a possible customer of
> AmigaOS4.0 or not.
To be honest, I don't understand what you mean. In the classic OS AREXX was the only possibility. Now we are thinking about bringing in Python (read: *thinking*) as a replacement. Where does it read that all other languages are out of the picture due to that? Did the presence of AREXX stop you from using perl on OS 3.x? I don't think so. So what makes you think that you cannot use perl equally well if not better on OS4?
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 45 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Hans-Joerg Frieden on 25-Nov-2002 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Petr Krenzelok):
Having general purpose scripting interface was already discussed internally some time ago. This is something that we would like to tackle, but as a long-term (i.e OS 4.1/4.2) solution.
Right now AREXX will still be around, emulated, but keep in mind that emulated programs don't have access to the full range of functionality, since they will not be aware of new libraries and services.
After all, OS 4 is not a blackbox approach. I don't think AREXX can communicate with the Host OS on UAE.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 46 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Hill on 25-Nov-2002 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Hans-Joerg Frieden):
Why not just port Regina? IIRC there is already a OS3.x port of Regina that can replace AREXX.
If OS4 has a decent POSIX style interface Perl can be easily ported. Just make sure we have a decent fork() :-)
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 47 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 25-Nov-2002 14:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (- GALAXY -):
Well you can chose from TinyCOBOL, C, C++, ASM, Ada etc etc etc etc etc
etc etc etc
No guns are being held to your head you know :-)
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 48 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Simon B on 25-Nov-2002 15:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Petr Krenzelok):
> Galaxy, Perl is dead, just accept it ;-) Who would use it these days? There are
>more modern solutions like Rebol, Curl, Ruby etc. Perl is for geeks, and if I
>would have to choose between the two menthioned, Python is the right way to go,
>as for the Arexx replacement ...
Haha, I love the 'x is for geeks' statements. C users say assembler is for geeks. Perl users say C is for geeks. Python users say Perl is for geeks. Linux users say linux developers are geeks. Windows users say Linux users are geeks.
Let's get one thing straight: they're ALL GEEKS! Most of them proud of it too! Using a computer is a geeky thing, so remember before you go calling someone a geek: you're a geek too.
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 49 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 25-Nov-2002 16:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
One question.. Are you having plans to officially and legally license Arexx or are you just letting OS4 purchasers to copy it from whereever they do find it?
AmigaOS 4.0 to include Python? : Comment 50 of 94ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 25-Nov-2002 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (JoannaK):
> One question.. Are you having plans to officially and legally license
> Arexx or are you just letting OS4 purchasers to copy it from whereever
> they do find it?
Thank about it this way: how was ARexx included in OS 3.5 and 3.9?
I could be wrong, but AFAIK the license for ARexx allows it to be distributed with AmigaOS, irrespective of the actual version (as long as it's above the version it was first distributed with). I'm certainly not aware of any special licenses being taken out for 3.5/3.9, but then considering who put those versions together, I guess that doesn't mean much.
I suspect distributing ARexx with AmigaOS4 is probably still legal, but it can't be modified or ported to PPC, hence the need for a long-term replacement.
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