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[News] Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmedANN.lu
Posted on 28-Nov-2002 01:57 GMT by Jens Schönfeld43 comments
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United/Lufthansa has confirmed Jeri Ellsworth's flight today. The young American has become the star of the 8-bit scene with her C-One design. She will present the Commodore One for the first time in Europe at the AMIGA + RETRO COMPUTING 2002. The new computer can be turned into nearly any home computer of the 80s, and it's reconfigurable hardware is a revolution in computer technology for home use. Unfortunately, the board will not be for sale at the fare, because the design has been improved to be even more flexible only a few days before production start. The new date for production start is now january 2nd, 2003.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 1 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 28-Nov-2002 06:25 GMT
C64 is still the most selling computer in history ?
what about all the pcs around...
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 2 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 06:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (catohagen):
Most selling single computer model.
PC's are all kinds of different models.
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 3 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 28-Nov-2002 08:49 GMT
The only thing I can say about this: Cool
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 4 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by CD-freak on 28-Nov-2002 08:50 GMT
Jeri Ellsworth is a miracle of nature...you go girl! :D
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 5 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by pVC on 28-Nov-2002 09:07 GMT
This has nothing to do with current Amiga and Amiga Inc. So we aren't interested even if it has remotely something common with our beloved Amiga Inc. Please find suitable site and read these news elsewhere.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 6 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 28-Nov-2002 09:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (pVC):
LOL!
"Will it run AmigaDE and AmigaOS 5?" ;-D
Seriously, projects like these (C=1 that is) talk directly to my old scarred geek heart.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 7 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 09:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (pVC):
As has been stated numerous times by the maintainer. This is not a site for just Amiga news.
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 8 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Bladerunner on 28-Nov-2002 09:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (pVC):
Please stop speaking for others!
I am very interested in such development! And I am sure so are many others!
If you are narrow minded, it is your problem, but not evreyone is!
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 9 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Righteous One on 28-Nov-2002 10:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (pVC):
Right. Although I must say that the longer we wait and do nothing ourselves,
the harder everything gets with time. On the other hand, we'll have plenty of time to get our plan-details perfected. Meaning, ofcourse, that anyone is considering investing huge amounts of money for something with an equally huge risk. I think it all depends on wether you truly believe in your creation.
Some 3 dentists believed in the Lorraine project in the early eighties, it can
happen again.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 10 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Lawd on 28-Nov-2002 10:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Björn Hagström):
(...and in reply to #8 and #9)
The sarcasm in #5 literally oozed out of my CRT. Does everyone need a smiley these days to recognize a joke?
Well, at least I HOPE it was a joke... :-O
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 11 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 10:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Lawd):
Yeah I saw that, in particularly "with our beloved Amiga Inc" ;o) But unfortunately one can't remove or edit posts here ..
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 12 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by pVC on 28-Nov-2002 10:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Björn Hagström):
As seen numerous times, we don't care. And I surely know what's best for everyone. You must be MOS-lover in wrong forum...
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 13 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 10:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (pVC):
I'm a potatismos supporter! Not just mos! It has to be potatismos or I won't support it. Preferably with some bostongurka on top. Yummy!
;o)
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 14 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 28-Nov-2002 10:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Björn Hagström):
What abour rotmos? :-)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 15 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 10:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Lennart Fridén):
Rotmos, hmm, sounds decomposed. So I'll pass ;o)
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 16 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by HJ on 28-Nov-2002 10:28 GMT
Is this for real? I want one!
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 17 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 10:33 GMT
What's the name of that *nix like clone for the C64? Could be neat to port that to the COne, and add a graphical X-like environment to it :o)
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 18 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Chosen One on 28-Nov-2002 10:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Björn Hagström):
It doesn't have to be a joke, it's not the eye-candy you can get with a systemthat counts. What does, is that it performs usefull tasks. If it has a gui, it doesnt have to be 32 bit, it doesn't need to be skinnable, it doesn't need visualprefs and related hacks and patches. This goes for the Amiga too, I'm sick and tired of loosers saying, "ooh, this LOOKS better so it must be better". That's a. nonsense and b. bullshit. What is needed is functionality
to rival the rivals, not eye-candy to rival the rivals eye-candy. Some could argue we need both, but we don't, Amiga should be low-footprint in all areas.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 19 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 28-Nov-2002 11:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Chosen One):
Ehh ? Can't see what this has to do with my post.
/Björn
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 20 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 28-Nov-2002 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (pVC):
> So we aren't interested [..]
Who's "we"?
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 21 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Frans on 28-Nov-2002 12:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Christian Kemp):
Allow me to say: "We ARE interested".
;-)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 22 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by pVC on 28-Nov-2002 12:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Christian Kemp):
"We" as every decent Amiga user and good people here, who haven't falled to evil propaganda :) Please refer the comment 10 for more info ;)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 23 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 28-Nov-2002 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Christian Kemp):
Yep! I'm interested! Once I have some cash again after buying an AmigaONE, i'm actually going to get one of these things! :)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 24 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by buzz on 28-Nov-2002 12:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Peter Gordon):
Peter, this is way more interesting than an AmigaOne.
Get one of these first! :-)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 25 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 28-Nov-2002 12:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (buzz):
In your opinion. The Commodore One would be more fun for me to play with, but the AmigaONE would be more useful to me as my main computer.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 26 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 28-Nov-2002 13:16 GMT
Jens: Looks real great. You are making happening of Decade.. Pitty that Flights alone would cost me nearly 600 Euros, I realy can't afford to see you and all other interesting people.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 27 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by buzz on 28-Nov-2002 13:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Peter Gordon):
Why is the AmigaOne going to be more useful to you? i mean why not buy a cheap PC with amithlon? an X86 version of AmigaOS would be more useful than a version which must run on this old/slow ppc hardware. Or maybe if you could run AmigaOS4 on some MAC hardware. but this will never happen (Officially anyway).
I'll buy a CommodoreOne. I won't buy a pegasos/AmigaOne though. a big waste of money.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 28 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 28-Nov-2002 14:33 GMT
I still want model C=One serial #0001 dammit!
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 29 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 28-Nov-2002 15:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (buzz):
Because I want to do PPC assembly? Because I want to? Because I'm not you?
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 30 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Me on 28-Nov-2002 16:12 GMT
>The young American has become the star of the
>8-bit scene with her C-One design.
I don't doubt that it's a good design, and it does look impressive, but I also don't doubt that she has become the star because she is a really tasty lady doing geeky electronics. Lovely.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 31 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Nov-2002 16:24 GMT
Or if you were on the other side of the fence during the 80's, then the Sprinter (www.peterplus.com) might be of more use!
Both are built around the same Altera PLD EP1K30QC208-3 chip.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 32 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by buzz on 28-Nov-2002 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Peter Gordon):
Great. ppc assembly, but the AmigaOne isnt exactly state of the art PPC hardware!
and it's not very cheap either. Why waste money on that?
I only asked for your reasoning. I know your not me. I have far more sense :-)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 33 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by buzz on 28-Nov-2002 16:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (buzz):
And I know its "you're" before some "wise" ann visitor. Shame ANN doesnt allow
message editing. Definately needs a user based system I think.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 34 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 28-Nov-2002 16:57 GMT
How come she can sell this things for just $200 can believe it, what is that market for some thing like this, I mean what can you really use the Comandore One for any way?
Play C64/128 games in 10x speed, it is not fun, well may be in 2min or so it last, at level one.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 35 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by buzz on 28-Nov-2002 17:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Kjetil):
Demo Coding!
The C64 scene is still very active. I still enjoy using my c64. I even dial up some C64 BBS's on it. 2400 bps rules.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 36 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 28-Nov-2002 17:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (buzz):
And how many C64/C128 users do demo coding? Serially $200 :)
So you can use it for BBS, and you can use it for Text editing, and games,
You do not have an Web browser (lynx?), you do not have FTP support or do you?
Painting programs? Last I tested on an C64 they where not so good at all.
All of this programs need to be written if any one is to use it for any work / fun,
I like the project how ever do not se how she is going to make money of it?
PS how many C64 programs can you download in 15min on your BBS with 2400 bps
And how many C64 programs can you download on your ADSL 300kbps connection?
Serially you need to be extremely hard core to be interested in some thing like this,
In my option the C64 OS is not at all interesting or good or any thing, it’s just so basic.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 37 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 28-Nov-2002 21:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (pVC):
A "C64 clone" has a lot more to do with Amiga than what a windows related posting has, adn those have been accepted here.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 38 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by buzz on 29-Nov-2002 02:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Kjetil):
>And how many C64/C128 users do demo coding? Serially $200 :)
MANY!!! www.c64.sk speaks for itself (its a news site similar to ann but with less bitching)
>So you can use it for BBS, and you can use it for Text editing, and games,
>You do not have an Web browser (lynx?), you do not have FTP support or do you?
>Painting programs? Last I tested on an C64 they where not so good at all.
Yes. i use it for BBS. its enjoyable. the c64 artwork on c64 BBS is very enjoyable to watch appear. the experience is relaxed.. the message boards are interesting and all callers post items to read. Its like a small community, and I enjoy it.
I do not need to browse the web on the c64, although i host a website on my c64 sometimes for a bit of fun (running lng - http://lng.sourceforge.net)
Plenty of art packages. It is very satisfying to make artwork on a c64.
>All of this programs need to be written if any one is to use it for any work / >fun,
>I like the project how ever do not se how she is going to make money of it?
money ? money ? you can have fun without making money. I have a jo, infact i run my own business.. I dont use c64 or Amigas. But for FUN i do use them.
>PS how many C64 programs can you download in 15min on your BBS with 2400 bps
>And how many C64 programs can you download on your ADSL 300kbps connection?
in 15 mins, using something like punter (c64 bbs download protocol) you can download maybe 3 full games. sure you can download more on adsl, but i feel you are missing the point.. however your idea of fun is very different from mine, so its not an issue
>Serially you need to be extremely hard core to be interested in some thing
>like this,
>In my option the C64 OS is not at all interesting or good or any thing, it’s
>just so basic.
oh ? well.. yes its a specialist interest im sure. But your opinion is not that of everyone, and i happily accept differing opinions although i dont always agree (eh mr.tickle :D) although even mr tickle likes his c64's :))
being involved in the c64 demoscene is really good. friendly people, active development, and lots of coding. Domination 17 (One of a few good diskmags still going) just came out, and i cannot wait to transfer it to disk. lots of articles, exclusive music and more.. triffic!
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 39 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Iggy Drougge on 29-Nov-2002 05:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (buzz):
So, do you come here to pick up girls or just to read all the non-Amiga/Pegasos news?
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 40 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 29-Nov-2002 08:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (buzz):
Why do I want an AmigaONE? Because I want to see the continuation of the AmigaOS. I want to write apps for OS4, and I'm excited by the prospect of AmigaOS getting updated.
I know in your mind its not an Amiga without a custom chipset, but I don't care. I enjoy programming for the operating system and not even touching the chipset.
Also, I want to be able to play MP3s, and watch movies under AmigaOS without it stealing all my processor time. I want to ditch all the hacks like Visualprefs and Birdie and have a version of AmigaOS that has all that sort of functionality properly integrated.
I want an AmigaONE because I think its cool, and I don't give a shit whether you consider it a waste of money.
I know you don't understand that, but thats OK, because its not your money i'm spending, is it?
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 41 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 29-Nov-2002 08:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Peter Gordon):
Also, I was going to get a Phase 5 G4, then an Amijoe G4, then a SharkPPC (although since the elbox thing i've changed my mind). I've been waiting for a G4 powered computer to run AmigaOS for years, so I'm going to bloody get one or i'll just explode! :)
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 42 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Trizt on 29-Nov-2002 23:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Kjetil):
What about suft the net?
I think there is a possibility that there will appear C1 games too, which will get use of the features that the computer offers.
Jeri Ellsworth's flight confirmed : Comment 43 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 30-Nov-2002 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (buzz):
Why Get An AmigaOne:
1) It will run AmigaOS4.
2) It will run MacOS, either with MOL or (possibly) an updated iFusion.
3) It's not a PC clone.
4) You can buy whatever hardware you want for it, as long as there are
drivers for it of course (so you're not locked into whatever Apple
decides to give you).
5) It's less insane than getting a CyberstormPPC, which is still more
expensive than even the AmigaOne with G4.
6) It will annoy all those whiners who whine about not buying one.
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