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[News] AmigaOne's arrive, minor problemsANN.lu
Posted on 15-Dec-2002 16:45 GMT by herb171 comments
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In Amiga.org thread "AmigaOne G3SE is here! now!" someone reports they got their new AmigaOne on Thursday and others say their Swedish dealer has them now for deliver on next Tuesday. Some problems are reported with IDE connectors and stability.

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"my local (well swedish atleast) dealer has got the first batch SEs! That means that all the people that has ordered a A1Se from GGSDATA in sweden will have their A1s by Tuesday!"

"The newer IDE connectors have a pin missing and the cables also lack a hole for it. Apparently the A1 has IDe connectors with all pins so you have to have a cable with all holes or you have to bend a pin."

"btw DMA is enabled but is a little unstable atm so easier to have it switched off. It is being worked on... A number of developers have it sorted but it hasn't quite reached us 'normal' folk yet."

AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 151 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Dec-2002 17:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 (Christer Jansson):
Ok, let's post Amiga Inc related news...
New WinXP service pack!
New PocketPC Amiga(TM) enabled version!
New Linux kernel with fixes that speed up intEnt!
Now let's go a bit back...
New QNX version!
AmigaOE based on Linux "about" to be released!
etc etc etc....
Now tell me what is more Amiga... MorphOS or these?
Yes, THAT'S what Amiga Inc is all about...
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 152 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Dec-2002 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 120 (Stefan Burström):
If overheating is a problem, I would have to get money from AMD cause they sold
me defective Athlons ;)
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 153 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by The_Editor on 17-Dec-2002 18:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 150 (AmiTroll):
Not a PET rock exactly.. but I did once have a

"Dragon Rock" does that count ? :o)
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 154 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by AmiTroll on 17-Dec-2002 18:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
You forgot one Alkis,

PPC AmigaOS on long awaited PPC hardware.
Not emulated, ported. Not Amiga-like, Amiga.

But then, gateway IS a wintel company, why hold
that aginst Ainc? And as far as DE goes, do you
really care so much if Amiga takes a share in
the handheld devices market just because its
mostly filled with linux and M$ devices? Your
jokeing right? The desktop market is flooded
with wintel boxes, should Amiga exit this market
too?

I suppose you will say that fleecy and bill worked
for gateway and can only have a wintel mindset. But
then that overlooks the fact that they inked the
deals with Hyperion and Eyetech to bring out new hw
and an upgraded OS and only because this itty bitty
Amiga market asked for it. I don't see what your on
about.

If you just want to hack on Ainc (for whatever reason)
more power to you, but do pick up some credible
arguments first. Snapping back at someone with half
truths and inuendo hardly makes you look good. :)

GRUNT
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 155 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by AmiTroll on 17-Dec-2002 18:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 153 (The_Editor):
>Not a PET rock exactly.. but I did once have a
>"Dragon Rock" does that count ? :o)

Hey that isn't one of them Pokemon thingys is it? :)
I eat them for lunch. :)

Actually i never saw one. 6809 right?

GRUNT
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 156 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 17-Dec-2002 19:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 148 (JoannaK):
"http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ueks0nct9dp12d orp.supernews.com
(read entire thread to see what's been talked about)"

how about a url that works please ? i will wait to comment until i can see your proof that all this is hyperions fault, and not some strange conclusion you personally came to
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 157 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Cumguzzler on 17-Dec-2002 19:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 154 (AmiTroll):
Actually, the handheld market is mostly filled with PalmOS devices, the rest is WinCE/PocketPC/whatever-they-call-it-this-week. Linux is barely even visible in handhelds. Does DE, the so-called cross-platform, easy-to-port solution run on PalmOS devices? No.
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 158 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 17-Dec-2002 19:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 154 (AmiTroll):
I did not forget OS4, I just did not add it to the list cause I believe that
posting news about it does worth it.
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 159 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by AmiTroll on 17-Dec-2002 20:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 157 (Cumguzzler):
Like it matters?

If DE was locked to WinCE and linux for eternity, who
in thier right mind wouldnt still sell to the CE and
linux markets?

GRUNT
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 160 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by AmiTroll on 17-Dec-2002 20:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 158 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>I did not forget OS4, I just did not add it to the list cause I believe that
>posting news about it does worth it.

So anything positive they do you conveniently
forget and anything that can be twisted by any
means into a negetive light you bring up over
and over again right?

GRUNT
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 161 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 17-Dec-2002 23:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Kjetil):
@ Kjetil
That signal is not cutted without a reason. F.ex. there are ATA-UDMA cables without a blocked hole, but the wire itself is cutted there.
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 162 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 18-Dec-2002 02:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 161 (Anonymous):
Don't remove the pin, you risk fucking up your warranty okey,
and I'm saying that the ATA cable are made for transferring in hi-speeds,
do nt use old IDE cables on new ATA harddrives.

What the pin is used for or is irrelevant okey!
N/C, GND, CRC, Extra data bit or Reserved,
I do not care.
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 163 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Piru on 18-Dec-2002 04:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 156 (derf):
derf:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ueks0nct9dp12d%40corp.supernews.com
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 164 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 18-Dec-2002 04:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 156 (derf):
Ah.. sorry. It WAS working when I cut it from my web browser. Must have been trashed somehow due posting/editing cause I would never trust myself on typing urls... See Piru:s comment (#163), it seems to have url as it's supposed to be.

I would really like to have Preview feature on this comment posting system. And ability to edit spelling mistakes. :)
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 165 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-Dec-2002 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 160 (AmiTroll):
Don't forget that OS4 is NOT Amiga Inc's product...
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 166 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by AmiTroll on 18-Dec-2002 17:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 165 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Don't forget that OS4 is NOT Amiga Inc's product...

Don't forget that Amiga Inc contracted someone to
develop it.

GRUNT
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 167 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by The_Editor on 18-Dec-2002 18:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 166 (AmiTroll):
Am I gonna get the last word in before this topic falls off the end of the page?
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 168 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Dec-2002 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (Kjetil):
@ Kjetil
> Don't remove the pin, you risk fucking up your warranty okey,

I didn't let anyone to remove that pin, "okey"?

> and I'm saying that the ATA cable are made for transferring
> in hi-speeds, do nt use old IDE cables on new ATA harddrives.

I said the same.

> What the pin is used for or is irrelevant okey!
> N/C, GND, CRC, Extra data bit or Reserved,
> I do not care.

It is NOT irrelevant, "okey"! YOU said earlier that don't cut that pin because that could be some important signal to be leaded through. It seems (perhaps you don't see it) it is a signal that should not be leaded through. Hence cables without blocking have this wire cutted. "Okey"?
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 169 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 19-Dec-2002 20:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 166 (AmiTroll):
Yep, after being unable to do it themselves and being INCREDIBLY incompetent.
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 170 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by AmiTroll on 19-Dec-2002 23:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 169 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Well i don't think they ever said they were going to
do it themselves, if they did, show me where, i don't
believe they have the people to do it either. And i
agree with you IN PART. They have made some unrealistic
or uninformed announcements. Not everything they do
pleases me but in the end im forced to look at whats
happened. Remember Gateway with all thier promises
of an upgraded OS, a settop box (now that made me laugh)
and all thier billions and tech heads to make it happen.
What actually happened? The Amiga community got all
excited, everything looked great and they dumped it.
Since Amiga Inc. bought it up, we've had things like
Amithilon, the new A1 specs and new HW designed based
around them, the deal with Hyperion (and the failed
deal with RS and crew) and the DE (just to mention it).
Think Gateway would have allowed Amithilon or supported
new HW designs for the OS we all love? Think they would
have started talks with RS about a new OS? Think they
would have endorsed new HW or signed deals to get new
HW in our hands? Hell no. Ok, Ainc have thier head buried
in the sand now and then, when and about what is all
personal opinion, but they have done something and thats
more than i can say for others. It's more than i can say
for anyone for years now. So i'm content to sit back and
let things develop. At least somethings actually
developing this time and not alot of hot talk and vapor.

GRUNT
AmigaOne's arrive, minor problems : Comment 171 of 171ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 20-Dec-2002 14:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (AmiTroll):
I agree that they did many important deals (and failed to do other important
deals as well), that would not happen with Gateway but they are unable to do
anything themselves. And yes, they did "plan" to do OS4 project management
in-house. It failed. I still remember the P96 guys saying that they signed a
contract and got no information about what they have to do, 2 months AFTER
Amiga Inc announced it.
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