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[News] GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distributionANN.lu
Posted on 04-Feb-2003 14:06 GMT by Thomas Steiding (Edited on 2003-02-04 18:07:17 GMT by Christophe Decanini)55 comments
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GTI and e.p.i.c. will cooperate on distribution for the Real Time Strategy simulation Knights and Merchants for the Pegasos. Knights&Merchants for the Pegasos will start shipping next week. 4.2.2003
e.p.i.c. and GTI team up for Pegasos distribution

GTI and e.p.i.c. interactive sign an exclusive distribution agreement for the upcoming Real Time Strategy game Knights and Merchants for the Pegasos/MorphOS. Knights and Merchants will be the first commercial game release by e.p.i.c. interactive that is exclusively available for MorphOS and the Pegasos. Knights and Merchants is priced at € 49,95 and will be shipping from februray 12th, 2003. More information on Knights and Merchants can be found at www.epic-interactive.com.

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GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 1 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 04-Feb-2003 13:26 GMT
This is good news. I am looking forward to playing it when my Pegasos arrives.

Is there any chance that there will be a version for AmigaOS (WarpOS or OS4.0) as well? It seems a shame that so many people will miss out on this great game because they don't have MorphOS.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 2 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 04-Feb-2003 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Lando):
not particularly good for the developers either, shutting out a 'big' market.
Amiga in itself is pretty tiny.. just delivering for a subdivision seems.. not good if you want to make a profit, and ensure that there will be more games.. imho.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 3 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 04-Feb-2003 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (reflect):
Just placed my order. :-)

@reflect:
Why "shutting out"? They just can't develop for an OS that's just not ready yet.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 4 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 04-Feb-2003 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Senex):
" 4.2.2003 e.p.i.c. and GTI team up for Pegasos distribution GTI and e.p.i.c. interactive sign an exclusive distribution agreement for the upcoming Real Time Strategy game Knights and Merchants for the Pegasos/MorphOS. "

First time I read it, I read it as this was going to be a MOS-only game, but I realize now that they can just aswell be talking about the distribution of the MOS-version of the game. It's a little hazy, atleast to me.

That's why I said "shutting out".

//reflect
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 5 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Feb-2003 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Senex):
but they could have done a "lazy-wos" (wos without caring about the number of context switches etc) port, which should be as good as the real thing on both mos and os4.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 6 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 04-Feb-2003 14:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
WOS is buggy as hell.
P96 (OS4) has more and different bugs than CGX(MOS).
People would complain about it being slow on a real WOS-system even
if you had told them so .....
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 7 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 04-Feb-2003 14:25 GMT
Thomas, Congratulations and THANKS!

We are hoping to build a profitable future together.

Best regards,

R&B

P.S. e.p.i.c. 's Birdie Shoot will be bundled with every copy of MorphOS...;-)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 8 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Feb-2003 14:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Kronos):
LOL

Like he has tried out the new P96 & Aos4. already

GET REAL.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 9 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 04-Feb-2003 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (bbrv):
>P.S. e.p.i.c. 's Birdie Shoot will be bundled with every copy of MorphOS...;-)

We'll see what the RSPB* has to say about that

;)

*Royal Society for the Protection of cruelty to Birds
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 10 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 04-Feb-2003 14:31 GMT
@Thomas

Since my dealer doesn't know yet - will the game be available as usual through the traditional Amiga-dealers (what I would prefer) or will you use another way of distribution?
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 11 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Steiding on 04-Feb-2003 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Rik Sweeney):
Hey, our birds are only getting anaesthetized to get treatment against ASE (Avis Spongiforme Enzephalopathy) ;-)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 12 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 04-Feb-2003 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
mmmmh what where we talking about ?

I think we were talkinh about problems that could arise with a WOS-version,
and diffences between CGX and P96 are among those.

There are bugs in the CGX-emu shipped with latest P96 (from Amithlon) and those
have been there for years, unlikely that they will suddenly disappear just
because of the No4.

And of what use would such a version be ?
Unusable on a real WOS, and by the time OS4 actually appears they could just
make a direct version for it (I'll bet that that would be easier than for WOS).
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 13 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Sam Smith on 04-Feb-2003 14:33 GMT
It's always good to hear of new titles being released.

Would it be possible to do an AmigaOS version? If so then I would love to purchase the game.

---
Sam
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 14 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Feb-2003 14:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Kronos):
The fact that many of the coders of MOS are from the same team that code Voyager i would think MOS has years of huge mindblowing bugs to come.

Voyahger3 is the MOSt unstable amiga browser of them all even tho it had been in dev longer than the other 2 untill just now.

MOS will no doubt be just has bad.

MOS makes Windows-ME look stable.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 15 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Steiding on 04-Feb-2003 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Senex):
@ Senex

All Amiga dealers can get the game through GTI.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 16 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 04-Feb-2003 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
>The fact that many of the coders of MOS are from the same team that code >Voyager i would think MOS has years of huge mindblowing bugs to come.


uhh it's only matt that i am aware, and he's not exactly the main prog behind mos. why don't u try it out b4 u condemm first.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 17 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Hooligan/DCS on 04-Feb-2003 15:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
speculating or facts based on MOS usage?
I thought so.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 18 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Sam Smith on 04-Feb-2003 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
Voyager 1 was superb though. It was the first browser that I managed to get working on my A4000. I think that version 1 was free as well. I didn't realise that they were the same team as the MOS team.

---
Sam
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 19 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Sam Smith on 04-Feb-2003 15:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Hooligan/DCS):
It would be nice to have some reliability/uptime tests comparing MOS to AOS 3.9.

It's what MOS needs to gain more support from consumers - proof that it is indeed just as stable as AOS.

---
Sam
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 20 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 04-Feb-2003 16:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Sam Smith):
"It's what MOS needs to gain more support from consumers - proof that it is indeed just as stable as AOS. "

AmigaOS is all except stable.
It can be OK with a chosen subset of applications but I would recommend saving your files you are working on very often when using other applications at the same time.

MorphOS has to sort these bad behaving applications too. OS4 will go the same way.

Soon or later the drivers may be moved from the ABOX to the QBOX and then morphos would not be bring down anymore by bad behaving applications. This is one of the major advantages of the sandbox approach. The QBOX has memory protection and could kill the ABOX and regenerate a new one if it ever crash.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 21 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by DDJ on 04-Feb-2003 16:06 GMT
>Knights&Merchants for the Pegasos will start shipping next week.

How about start shipping the PEGASOS in next week, how can this game can start to sell if the hardware is not in stores to buy ?

I just canceled my Pegasos preorder, this sucks, i`m going out of this market.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 22 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 04-Feb-2003 16:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (DDJ):
Hey DDJ,

See you later! We don't need you -- either here or on #morphos (where you spent the afternoon).

"DDJ: Well, guys i just cancel my pegasos preorder, i will try to buy a in 4 or 6 months, but now im going to a Powerbook, i`m not a patient man ...:-("

Troll!

:-)

Go GTI and e.p.i.c.! Go Pegasos!

R&B

P.S. We wish they would all leave...;-)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 23 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Feb-2003 16:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (reflect):
> not particularly good for the developers either, shutting out a 'big' market. Amiga in itself is pretty tiny.. just delivering for a subdivision seems.. not good if you want to make a profit

Unless this is a deal sponsored by Genesi. That's what I would do if I was either Genesi or Amiga Inc: sign exclusive deals with developers, to dry up support for the other platform.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 24 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Feb-2003 16:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
>The fact that many of the coders of MOS are from the same team that code Voyager
>i would think MOS has years of huge mindblowing bugs to come.

well, i think some of the coders of Voyager are doing parts of the mos
I think Zaptek(sp?) are doing work on Ambient, the reverse engeneered Workbench :)

Think of it this way, is mos never existed, Voyager would maybe exist as an
kick ass browser, instead of the bug ridden slow junk it is today :)

>MOS makes Windows-ME look stable.

Because of the parasitic marketing and always pretending to be the next generation amiga and amigaos
and use key amiga apps to sell Morphos as a new and indepentant, I think MOS makes AmigaOS look bad.

At 3 shows in a row, apps crashed, the prefs program CGXMode crashed, Frogger crashed, ImageFX crashed
or didnt work(and dont blame on missing files, you go to a show prepeared)

*this makes amigaos look bad*

Im puzzled someone don't sue Genesi for dragging the amiga apps through this shit :)

Play the game with real terms, cut the navel cord and stop feeding of the amiga and its name.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 25 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Feb-2003 16:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (bbrv):
hehe.....another customer lost :) go bill, go !!!
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 26 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by %00 on 04-Feb-2003 16:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (catohagen):
Hey "catohagen"

Could we lose you too! Please!

Remeber this:

Serious bug in IBrowse 2.3 : Comment 19 of 54

We all know what an important contributor you are to this community!

Get LOST!

:-)

R&B
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 27 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Feb-2003 16:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (bbrv):
strange of ceo of a international company to whine like a little kid
because of a lost sale :)

I see this behavour with little boys such as my son(5 years) if some kid
tease him at kindergarden, is a kids way of handeling the stress when being
teased, you tease back...:)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 28 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 04-Feb-2003 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Rik Sweeney):
"Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Birds"

Yes! We must protect cruelty to birds! Damn those animal rights protestors! (i think you meant Royal Society for the Protection of Birds :)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 29 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 04-Feb-2003 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Rik Sweeney):
Protection of cruelty? Does that mean they actively support it? ;p
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 30 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by logain on 04-Feb-2003 16:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (catohagen):
Your arguments against MorphOS are as weak as your so called "sense of black humor" as shown in comment 19 in the IBrowse thread.

Seriously, catohagen, you need to get a life..
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 31 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Feb-2003 16:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (%00):
>Serious bug in IBrowse 2.3 : Comment 19 of 54
>We all know what an important contributor you are to this community!
>Get LOST!


so you start with the digging again :) maybe you should check digital porn
again(http://www.lindkvist.com/digitaldataporn/xxx.html), if maybe im a pervert,
like you did last time someone commented against you.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 32 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 04-Feb-2003 16:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (catohagen):
Somebody's been on a "liquid lunch" again: :))))
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 33 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Feb-2003 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (logain):
>Seriously, catohagen, you need to get a life..

I have a fantastic life, a good job, a wife, 3 kids, i have about 4 or 5 really
good friends, we sometimes fish or take boat trips or just hang out when we have
spare time, usally most of the time goes to family...is there a problem with me
being here ?
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 34 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Feb-2003 17:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (catohagen):
well, i think some of the coders of Voyager are doing parts of the mos
I think Zaptek(sp?) are doing work on Ambient, the reverse engeneered Workbench :)
--

Ambient is not a reverse engineered workbench, it's a totally new desktop, with
WB compatability (easily obtainable by reading docs).

Think of it this way, is mos never existed, Voyager would maybe exist as an
kick ass browser, instead of the bug ridden slow junk it is today :)
--

Slow? Use it under MOS on a PEG:) And yes, it is pretty stable there.

Because of the parasitic marketing and always pretending to be the next generation amiga and amigaos
and use key amiga apps to sell Morphos as a new and indepentant, I think MOS makes AmigaOS look bad.
--

You haven't ever used MorphOS, you just keep repeating the shit some people
keep spreading. You weren't in Aachen, neither CES. In Aachen there were 30
machines working at the same time and there were hardly any crashes.

At 3 shows in a row, apps crashed, the prefs program CGXMode crashed, Frogger crashed, ImageFX crashed
or didnt work(and dont blame on missing files, you go to a show prepeared)
--

Did this happen in Aachen? In the CES? It didn't. CGXMode crashed cause
"someone" accidently installed 2 versions of the same gfx driver, messing up
CGX.

*this makes amigaos look bad*
--

And this posting make you look stupid, talking about the PAST.

Im puzzled someone don't sue Genesi for dragging the amiga apps through this shit :)
--

Genesi could sue you for dragging MorphOS through this shit.

Play the game with real terms, cut the navel cord and stop feeding of the amiga and its name.
--

Cut your neck and stop trolling.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 35 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Feb-2003 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (catohagen):
There's a problem with you here, posting inaccuracies, REALLY tasteless humour
about the death of 7 people and anything to make MOS look bad.
I could very well say "OS4 was only shown booting the kernel so it's very
primitive, not ready, etc etc etc." Do I know this? Nope. That's why I don't.
Do the same. Don't talk about things you know nothing about.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 36 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by NihilVor on 04-Feb-2003 17:11 GMT
Figures... one of the few new games I would have bought and it is going to be released on another platform. They have the right, but it seems that EPIC doesn't care if they sell that many. I guess I should go out and buy a few games for the pc.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 37 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by logain on 04-Feb-2003 17:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (catohagen):
>>I have a fantastic life, a good job, a wife, 3 kids [...]

If you've such a fantastic life, why dont you make use of it ?

>>...is there a problem with me being here ?

Theres a problem with your attitude and your insulting and wierd claims..
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 38 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 04-Feb-2003 17:16 GMT
catogen, about the worst i could say about morphos is that it inherits the instability of the amiga apps it runs. as a newbie user i opened lots of apps at CES and ran many windows and processes concurrently. MorphOS seemed to do as well as my amigas: that is to say if the apps were stable apps it stayed up. actually i never could crash ambient or the OS itself, and the apps that were part of the bundle ran well.

unfortunately, i could use voyager only to browse through offline sites as many of the pavilions did not have internet connections available. but it didn't seem to resemble the mess comments here on ANN had led me to believe. I was rather shocked it didn't have CSS yet, though.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 39 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by DDJ on 04-Feb-2003 17:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (bbrv):
Well, I`m just tired to wait and try to tell you "Manager" that so long waiting is what we "Amiga users" is trying to avoid without any fight or trolling, get the logs of #Morphos and see if I’m a troll, you will see, I used to have hope in Genesi team, but now as you give me a so nice answer about my wish in buy your product, I will definitively go buy "Not now because the lack of OS4" a AmigaONE, and I going to erase my MOS partition high now, as MOS is good "Sorry Ralf", but have no future with so nice people like you.

Thanks again.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 40 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Feb-2003 17:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (logain):
>Teres a problem with your attitude and your insulting and wierd claims..

dont know if i can do something about my attitude, but i'll cut the insulting
and wierd claims...
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 41 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 04-Feb-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (NihilVor):
I don't see why the pissing and moaning about companies that make announcements of doing MorphOS titles (as if it isn't their right anyway). so far, it is no big deal to release the same titles for AOS4 - when making announcements of this becomes realistic I bet you will see some. From what I heard at CES it is, so far, *trivial* to support both platforms, due to API commonality.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 42 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 04-Feb-2003 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Lando):
Technically an AmigaOS 4 version would only take a few months due to the way we write our games on top of an abstraction library...

However there are other issues which I can't go into... the fact that OS4 is not even anywhere near usable by a developer is one of them though.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 43 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 04-Feb-2003 19:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (bbrv):
Is that the real bill ?! ?!

Bill please think more before posting such agressive posts...

Many are fed up of the delays. Please explain them (no articias) instead of reacting like that...
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 44 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 04-Feb-2003 19:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (mahen):
Also to the potential buyers :

please remember :


- Bill is not genesi ! (bplan, thendic...)

- Delays are not due to genesi (articias)


peace everyone ;)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 45 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by DDJ on 04-Feb-2003 19:56 GMT
I’m here asking apology to Bill Buck and the Genesi Team, I made some noise here in ANN, and it`s all about the waiting time not the product, to me it’s hard waiting like this.

Bill Buck and I trade good emails today and he explain me way I’m still waiting :), thanks again Bill Buck and I’m really sorry, you know, nobody is perfect :), I will keep waiting.

And forgive me ANN users and Crhistian to bring trouble, but I guess here we have a few some time, so… (a joke) :-).
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 46 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by DDJ on 04-Feb-2003 20:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (mahen):
@mahen

We traded emails like 5 minutes after my first post.
Just to be clear :), so don`t worry we sometimes amplify some little problems.

To me Bill is a little nervous but very good guy, like some of us :).
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 47 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by not a lawyer on 04-Feb-2003 21:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 ([JC]):
You mean because of the stuff Hermans tried to do with you? (sue your ass and all that stuff)
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 48 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Feb-2003 22:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (%00):
>Get LOST!
>:-)
>R&B

It's hard to believe that this contribution comes from Genesi. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Would it be possible for VIPs like Ben, Genesi CEO etc. to sign their contributions with PGP ? It's only a mouseclick with tools such as PGPGoesMUI and would be very helpful.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 49 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 05-Feb-2003 02:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (not a lawyer):
> You mean because of the stuff Hermans tried to do with you? (sue your ass and all that stuff)

Excuse me ? I'm assuming you responded to the wrong thread. If you did mean to respond to my thread, I would like to know where in hell you got that completely, utterly, totally absurdly wrong information.
GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution : Comment 50 of 55ANN.lu
Posted by krize on 05-Feb-2003 06:37 GMT
arggh, why not develop for both MOS and AOS ... you want the sales , dont you ?? Selling a MOS only game today is, and earning money from it, i would think is very optimistic ...
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