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[News] Total Amiga Magazine issue #14ANN.lu
Posted on 08-Feb-2003 11:52 GMT by Mikey C (Edited on 2003-02-08 14:46:14 GMT by Christian Kemp)18 comments
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The latest, eagerly anticipated issue of Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 coming soon via subscription, individually, and at an Amiga vendor near you! For more details including release date, visit our website. HOLLYWOOD. "The new multimedia authoring package for the Amiga. But can it topple SCALA? Our reviewers sit in front of the screen and bring you their verdict."

Our main Feature is:- WEBDESIGN! "A true epic struggle, starring brave and determined reviewers, see if it can be done using an Amiga."

SOFTWARE TYCOON. "The good, the bad and the ugly. Oscar Nominee or Turkey of the Year?"

Quake II - "On the Amiga. A long established Title, but will the latest Hyperion Entertainment port leave you reaching for more popcorn or heading to the exit?"

Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 1 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Feb-2003 11:47 GMT
I understand that these adverts are tolerated because Total Amiga is "not for profit" (maybe the other Amiga mags should have tried that on towards the end when they were losing money)

However it's rude to stuff five paragraphs on the front page, especially when you can't even be bothered to get your own URL right. Hopefully the moderators will rewrite this article to be less obnoxious before most people see it.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 2 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Feb-2003 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Agreed. To quote:

> Submission guidelines
> 1. Do not use linebreaks in the summary, keep it to one paragraph.
> [..]
> 5. Linking is done via standard HTML markup, ie. <A href="http://anna.amigazeux.org">ANN</A> will link to ANN
> [..]
> 9. Do not announce new software / website updates without appropriate linking.

I changed the order around, and added HTML tags to the website URL.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 3 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 08-Feb-2003 17:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
>I understand that these adverts are tolerated because Total Amiga is "not for >
>profit"

Total Amiga is basically the worlds only print-based Amiga magazine...and as anyone who reads it knows, its very good.

certainly, the announcement that the new issue is out is news...and far better news than most of these 'our web site has a new logo on it' 'news'
items

alan
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 4 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 08-Feb-2003 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Christian Kemp):
hmm I wouldnt say its rude, perhaps a little ignorant and lazy for not readidng the rules but not rude....
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 5 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Feb-2003 18:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Ryu):
I can't see any objection at all to the announcement. It's not as
though these guys were doing it to get rich.

Even for-profit products (such as FxPaint) are rare enough nowadays
that an announcement is news.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 6 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Feb-2003 18:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Ryu):
Yes, ok. Let's say I agree with the idea, but the wording might have been a bit too strong.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 7 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 08-Feb-2003 20:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Don Cox):
Dont get me wrong Don, I totally support TotalAmiga, I even try to write for it but time is limited :) I was just pointing out that rude wasnt quite a fair thing to say.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 8 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Sam "Bifford the Youngest" Byford on 08-Feb-2003 21:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (alan buxey):
Alan said: "Total Amiga is basically the worlds only print-based Amiga magazine...and as anyone who reads it knows, its very good."

Hate to say this but it's not. It's the UKs only Amiga print mag but its not the worlds only. Amiga Acktuell (spelling?) is German and there's a few others out there I cant think of atm.

Facts straight and all that ;)
TTFN
Bifford!
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 9 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Feb-2003 21:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Sam "Bifford the Youngest" Byford):
> Amiga Acktuell (spelling?) is German and there's a few others out there I cant think of atm.

Germany actually has three printed Amiga magazines: Amiga Plus (excellent), Amiga Future (not that good) and Amiga Magazin (the living dead).
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 10 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 08-Feb-2003 22:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Ryu):
I think the explanation is that Mikey pasted the same promo to all those places which might find the news interesting.

This works OK for mailing lists and such but causes problems on sites that have custom posting formats (ANN is not alone in this). Some of these sites will have a news moderator who will trap the errors before they get published, but where there is no such filter they will get posted and look bad.

I'm sure a polite note to Mikey requesting special care when posting to ANN will achieve the required results.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 11 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 08-Feb-2003 23:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Bill Hoggett):
Why do I feel like the bad guy here when I wasnt trying to be :)
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 12 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 09-Feb-2003 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Bill Hoggett):
The problem is that everyone should really be aware of the specifics of the platforms they are used for marketing their products.

To just write one text and expect it to fit in all kinds of formats is just like using one of those "submit your site to 500 search engines" sites in the late nineties - it just doesn't work. It's always better to take an extra minute to consider your specific targets, especially if they can bring in so many visitors (and buyers).

This is not just targeted at this item in particular, it just happened that the issue was raised in here. I'd really prefer if people learned to do proper submissions (because in the end, it's to their own benefit), rather than me doing manual corrections (and possibly rewording or re-arranging) and then still tracking them down by mail to discuss any changes I made (which I normally don't do because it just eats too much time).
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 13 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by André Siegel on 09-Feb-2003 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
"Germany actually has three printed Amiga magazines: Amiga Plus (excellent), Amiga Future (not that good) and Amiga Magazin (the living dead)."

I would like to add that AmigaPlus is by far the biggest Amiga print magazine world-wide with several *thousand* copies sold each month. In fact, it is also the longest running Amiga magazine still in existance.

Then, there is Amiga Future which does not sell quite as well as AmigaPlus, yet has more readers than Total Amiga. It is released six times a year and can also be obtained with a *cover CD*.

Amiga Magazin, on the other hand, is a bit difficult to explain. It is not a stand-alone magazine anymore.


So yes, Mr. Anonymous is right. While I am sure it is a nice mag, TotalAmiga is far from being the world's only Amiga print magazine...
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 14 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by André Siegel on 09-Feb-2003 09:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Sam "Bifford the Youngest" Byford):
"Amiga Acktuell (spelling?) is German and there's a few others out there I cant think of atm."

Amiga Aktuell is an online magazine (not a print mag), but it was closed a while ago.
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 15 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Sam "Bifford the Youngest" Byford on 09-Feb-2003 09:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (André Siegel):
"Amiga Aktuell is an online magazine (not a print mag), but it was closed a while ago."

So I got facts slightly wrong but I was right in principle - there are other print mags out there and just thought I should correct the fella who originally said that point :-)

Can I just say that I would sub to probably at least one of the other mags if it had an English version but as I can't read German there's no point!!!

Oh, and I believe France also has a print-mag out there too :)

TTFN
Bifford
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 16 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 09-Feb-2003 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Sam "Bifford the Youngest" Byford):
I was subbed to a swedish mag a long time ago - it helped me to learn ;-)

now that i'm reminded that theres still a german Amiga print mag i think i'll subscribe to it (thought the last one closed last year...must have confused
it)....i dont know German...but its in the interest of my hobby to learn
(AND i'll be able to chat to some of the most active developers then too! 8-) )

alan
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 17 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by kriz on 09-Feb-2003 17:34 GMT
Well I think its the only printed English written magazine, and its a good one too ....

If you want a good amiga magize in your postbox, subscribe to this (you wont regret) ..

Im very satisfied :)
Total Amiga Magazine issue #14 : Comment 18 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Craig David on 13-Feb-2003 16:39 GMT
"as anyone who reads it knows, its very good." . Have you read Brave New World, Alan, or was your implication that everyone should think the same intentionally funny :) I think Total Amiga is terrible by any journalistic standard and also contains terrible spelling mishtakes, irrelevant opinion and a writing style which makes Richard and Judy seem authoritative. But it's non-profit making you cry? Hardly a saving grace where so many mags (CU Amiga, Amiga Format) are not with us solely due to finances.
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