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[News] Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003ANN.lu
Posted on 21-Feb-2003 19:45 GMT by Senex318 comments
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As Genesi announces on MorphOS-News.de, the next Pegasos-I-boards will go on sale on Monday: To Whom it May Concern:

The Pegasos will go on sale Monday.

There are 300 to sell and 100 that will go to MorphOS Developers and Employees.

If interested to purchase a Pegasos mainboard or fully configured machine:

1. Contact your Distributor
2. Contact Phoenix
3. Contact Genesi

When these are sold there will not be another release until August/September 2003. The next release, the Pegasos II, will have double data rates, three 1 Gb/s ethernet channels, and Dual G4s. Genesi will not release a new version until then.

We want everyone to understand this before they purchase the Pegasos available now. All Betatester boards will be exchanged with the first priority.

An upgrade credit will be offered to Pegasos I buyers. The Pegasos I will not have a G4 upgrade.

Thank you and best regards,

Genesi

Note: Please contact Genesi directly to get your replacement board with April chipset (if you haven't done so far). Thank you.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 1 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2003 19:12 GMT
Ahh... I remember the year 2002 killer feature of pegasos, the CPU slot ... ... ... now worthless.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 2 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Joël EHRET on 21-Feb-2003 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (priest):
The only reason to build a pegasosII is because because of Mai failure to deliver Ariticia.... But i can be wrong and that's only my opinion...., but why not making more boards then?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 3 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by BubbleBobble on 21-Feb-2003 19:20 GMT
"The Pegasos I will not have a G4 upgrade. "

What ????
Bbrv, you are really a liar !!
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 4 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Max on 21-Feb-2003 19:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Joël EHRET):
"The only reason to build a pegasosII is because because of Mai failure to deliver Ariticia"

Well I'll add the Mai failure to deliver fully working and bugfree Articias enough quickly.
And so that have made Genesi and Eyetech to lose lot of money (particularly Genesi as they are ingeneering their own board which is not a free process).
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 5 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 21-Feb-2003 19:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Joël EHRET):
@Joel

> but why not making more boards then?

I suppose despite the lack of enough bug-free northbridges from MAI they don't expect that much people to be interested in the Pegasos-I anymore now, given its disadvantages compared to the Pegasos-II.

Anyway I think we have to give Genesi credit to be fair enough to tell this everyone in advance - instead of continueing to produce and sell Pegasos-Ones until the Pegasos-II is on sale.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 6 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 19:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Joël EHRET):
if you are wrong or make stupid assumptions then keep your mouth shut and don't spread rumours into the public.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 7 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Ness on 21-Feb-2003 19:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Senex):
> and Dual G4s

It is a very interesting feature to have a dual processor computer when the system itself don't support SMP...
Bill Buck, are you trying to fooling us once again ?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 8 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Iggy Drougge on 21-Feb-2003 19:38 GMT
What's the point in having dual G4s when running MorphOS? Will it be rewritten accordingly?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 9 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 19:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Max):
Why do you think that Genesi and Eyetech lost a lot of money ? They are on their own responsible going for obviously untested new devices such as the articiaS. It was a known fact that the articiaS was new and not proven to work reliable, now Genesi found out about the issues and MAI is going to fix the issue.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 10 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 19:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (BubbleBobble):
One word to describe Bill Buck : Pathetic.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 11 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 21-Feb-2003 19:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Ness):
>when the system itself don't support SMP...

The MorphOS kernel (Quark) supports SMP since beginning.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 12 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Gelb on 21-Feb-2003 19:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Senex):
What did you smoke? Please put off for once your rose tinted glasses and try to be a bit more critical.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 13 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 21-Feb-2003 19:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Ness):
>to have a dual processor computer when the system itself don't support SMP...

doesnt quark have symmetrical multi processing ? its says so in the featurelist
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 14 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 19:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (David Scheibler):
Yes, and also protected memory, multithreading, ...lol !
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 15 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 21-Feb-2003 19:56 GMT
Wow, this was an interesting twist! :-)

I am glad to have a Pegasos secured in my home! :-D
Looks like there might be a shortage for a while ...
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 16 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 19:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (catohagen):
You are talking about the fake featurelist ?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 17 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 21-Feb-2003 19:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
>You are talking about the fake featurelist ?

Please tell me which parts are fake of the feature list.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 18 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2003 20:02 GMT
What would be a sensible reason for this twist?
Are they so sure that AOS4 does not ship untill autumn?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 19 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 21-Feb-2003 20:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
MorphOS should support SMP ... it's only the A/BOX that doesn't support it, as far as I understood ... so everything that has anything to do with AmigaOS/ABOX wouldn't benefit from it!
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 20 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2003 20:04 GMT
How about those Cebit pegasoses? How about those cheap STB models?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 21 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark] on 21-Feb-2003 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (priest):
@Priest

those cheap ones, couldn't that be the ones whith the bugs???
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 22 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Richi on 21-Feb-2003 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (David Scheibler):
You can't say it support SMP because it is not true the kernel has SMP support inside but is written by people outside genesi a lot before Morphos and it's completely untested!
So we can be optimistic but does anyone remember a story about something done by MAI supposed to be good but untested ?! :-)

You can't rely on code so important when it is not done by you or at least done for Pegasos and deeply tested, remember how long have been taken the implementation of the kernel in OS4. They knew what they had in their hand because they did! Here is worst!
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 23 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 21-Feb-2003 20:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (priest):
> How about those Cebit pegasoses?

Yes, I would like to know that too. I was thinking of buying one of those! I kind of liked the case!

> How about those cheap STB models?

You mean the "real" STB, the cheap digital TV reciever announced some weeks ago? This should not concern that product, since that will be a complete new HW system aswell, very limited and streamlined in it's features (connecting to a TV, smartcard reader, and who knows?). They are DTV recievers. Or do you mean the Pegasos in the "STB-lookalike" case as above?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 24 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2003 20:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
Genesi has been pretty good in the openness of their communication lately. I bet we all know more monday.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 25 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2003 20:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (takemehomegrandma):
btw. wasn't the STB information at www.pegasosppc.com ? I could not find it any more (after 20 second search).
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 26 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by KennyR on 21-Feb-2003 20:22 GMT
Haha, Nice to see all you Pegasos and morphos morons are getting what you truly deserve.

MorphOS and Amiga emulators must die and the users also must die.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 27 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 21-Feb-2003 20:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (priest):
>btw. wasn't the STB information at www.pegasosppc.com ? I could not find it
>any more (after 20 second search).

AFAIK it was only available on morphos-news.de
Just come to Cebit ;)
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 28 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2003 20:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (David Scheibler):
I think I saw a link on the english front page www.pegaosppc.com, but never mind. Good to hear the STB plan is intact, I think.

The STB announcement:
http://www.morphos-news.de/?lg=en&nid=216&si=1
(specs look just like pegasos1+april2, is it peg1, or is that spec only for Cebit purposes & for the demo machines)
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 29 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Gelb on 21-Feb-2003 20:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (KennyR):
Just to clear this up. The comment was not written by KennyR (who is on IRC right now with me and several others (of course)).
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 30 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by KennyR on 21-Feb-2003 20:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (KennyR):
See that IP up there? This is mine. It never changes. Any comments coming from lamers using open proxies anyone with any sense will ignore.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 31 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 21-Feb-2003 20:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (KennyR):
> Haha, Nice to see all you Pegasos and morphos morons are getting what you
> truly deserve.

Allways nice to meet nice people! But what do you mean with "what you truly deserve"? An even better machine?
:-)

I allready have my Pegasos secured. I am using it and I am enjoying it. No more waiting for me, I know what I have. And I will sit here and watch MorphOS progress during the coming months and when Pegasos2 is to be released I might consider using the upgrade offer. But there seems to be some time to think about it!
;-)
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 32 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 21-Feb-2003 20:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (KennyR):
I think there has been used your name in another thread today too, here on
ann.lu.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 33 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Lamer who needs to stop wanking on 21-Feb-2003 20:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (KennyR):
sorry kennyr i use open proxy to pretend i am you but i am lame and need a girlfriend
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 34 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by fecking me on 21-Feb-2003 20:57 GMT
open proxies suck!
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 35 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Hooligan/DCS on 21-Feb-2003 21:13 GMT
Well MAI was unreliable to provide the service required, only logical they will be ditched.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 36 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 21-Feb-2003 21:27 GMT
What chipset are they going for now ? The IBM one ?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 37 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 21:55 GMT
" An upgrade credit will be offered to Pegasos I buyers. The Pegasos I will not have a G4 upgrade."

so all those that bought a pegasos with the intention to upgrade have basically been lied too and ripped off , not that I would expect anything else from Buck and Genesi.

You can just imagine Genesi board meetings ... :

Bill : I know , lets make a set top box
Everyone else : Jesus Bill , we've been over this like a million times , no one gives a shit about your freak'in set top box crap give it a rest.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 38 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Linus G on 21-Feb-2003 21:55 GMT
Does anybody actually believe that this will be ready for September ? A better guess would be end of 2003 or early 2004.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 39 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 21-Feb-2003 22:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Linus G):
What northbridge are they using for it?

Marvell ?

Guess it seems a bit optimistic to aim for an August release but I hope they will succeed.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 40 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2003 22:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
>You are talking about the fake featurelist ?

The Morphos featurelist is fake ?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 41 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Dan Andersson on 21-Feb-2003 22:17 GMT
Seems there will be people working overtime at Bplan this summer...

Pegasos 2, Eclipses and STBs to do...
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 42 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 21-Feb-2003 23:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Dan Andersson):
Perhaps they have spent the last couple of months drawing many more developers towards them? Anyway, I don't think they are only a handful of developers anymore ...
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 43 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 21-Feb-2003 23:41 GMT
<bbrv> just one more thing so ALL of you undersatnd...
<bbrv> the teron G4 does NOT run as fast as the Pegasos I G3....;-)
<bbrv> tested, proven

saying it doesnt make it so, proof please and which tests?
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 44 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 21-Feb-2003 23:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (derf):
AFAIK Eyetech will sell the AmigaOne XE G4 on Monday, too. Therfore it
shouldn't be hard to compare yourself.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 45 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 21-Feb-2003 23:48 GMT
heh anything goes wrong and pegosos lovers always blame someone else.....just accept your own failures

cant resist it but...

<simpsons>
Ha Ha!
</simpsons>
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 46 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 21-Feb-2003 23:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Leki):
You also know this episode:

"Homer: I reluctantly accept your proposal!
Bill Gates: Well everyone always does. Buy 'em out, boys!

[Gates' lackeys trash the room.]

Homer: Hey, what the hell's going on!
Bill Gates: Oh, I didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks! [insane laughter]"

;)
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 47 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 00:07 GMT
i look forward to reading the comments/opinion from "Eva" on this news item......it really does give me a good laff reading his posts :)
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 48 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 22-Feb-2003 00:13 GMT
This is another blow to the Amiga market and it is such a shame it has to be this way.

I was interested in MorphOS and the Pegasos board but after reading i doubt i would buy one and i will not even buy a Eyetech Teron board aswell.
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 49 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 00:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Not a Eyetech Fan):
maybe a blow to the pegasos market but not the amiga market :)
Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 50 of 318ANN.lu
Posted by Not a Eyetech Fan on 22-Feb-2003 00:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Leki):
Stop talking and provide a link to purchase Amiga OS 4 and a AmigaONE board (Yes together) otherwise stop trolling.

All Amiga companies are bad as each other.
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