| [News] Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 21-Feb-2003 19:45 GMT by Senex | 318 comments
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As Genesi announces on MorphOS-News.de, the next Pegasos-I-boards will go on sale on Monday:
To Whom it May Concern:
The Pegasos will go on sale Monday.
There are 300 to sell and 100 that will go to MorphOS Developers and Employees.
If interested to purchase a Pegasos mainboard or fully configured machine:
1. Contact your Distributor
2. Contact Phoenix
3. Contact Genesi
When these are sold there will not be another release until August/September 2003. The next release, the Pegasos II, will have double data rates, three 1 Gb/s ethernet channels, and Dual G4s. Genesi will not release a new version until then.
We want everyone to understand this before they purchase the Pegasos available now. All Betatester boards will be exchanged with the first priority.
An upgrade credit will be offered to Pegasos I buyers. The Pegasos I will not have a G4 upgrade.
Thank you and best regards,
Genesi
Note: Please contact Genesi directly to get your replacement board with April chipset (if you haven't done so far). Thank you.
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| Posted by Darrin on 22-Feb-2003 13:45 GMT | Well, well, well…
After months of putting up with the MOS camp followers ridiculing every delay with the AmigaOne/OS4 we finally get to see the truth behind the scenes of the Righteous Followers of Thendic. It is all so clear now that the torrent of abuse that Hyperion and Eyetech have had to put with the relentless stream of attacks was to deflect attention away from problems with the rival product. To quote from Wizard of Oz, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
Please refresh my memory… who were these people gloating over the AmigaOne delays? Oh yes, I remember: Max, Senex, David Scheibler, Stobe, Mahan, Chessegrate, Nicolas Sallin and a handful of others. Surprisingly, it’s the very same people who are now defending this sad Pegasos announcement and doing their utmost to turn it into another attack on Eyetech/Hyperion.
"This is good news!!!", they cry.
"Bollocks!!!", we all shout back.
"You’ll be able to trade your P1 for a P2 they cry.",
"Pegasos 2?", we ask, "Is that like a BoXeR 2?"
Why should we believe them? These are the same people that told us that there was no "Mai without April" (Apparently, as far as the Pegasos goes, there’s no Mai with it either), they told us that the A1XE couldn’t use a G4, they told us it couldn’t use a dual G4 module, they told us Amiga Inc had gone bust, they told us OS4 had stopped development,…. And best of all, they told us that the Pegasos 1 would have G4 and dual G4 cards (remember, the AamigaOne wouldn’t – big selling point).
Sorry guys. Your credibility is now ZERO, zip, bugger all. Kindly stop trying to put a positive spin on this because you can. Stop attacking Eyetech over this – it’s not their problem. Stop attacking Ben over this – he’s not responsible.
I must admit that I have been very impressed with the way that the Pegasos was being marketed by Bill Buck. He’s done wonders at pushing this product, defending his position on newsgroups, attending the shows and striking deals to get developers on board in order to produce software. I view his press announcements in the same way I view Amiga Inc’s – Overly positive because it’s his job to SELL and PROMOTE his product over the competition. No-one puts out a press release to slag their wares. In the same way, I can accept this announcement in the same way that Eyetech have had to pass on bad news to their waiting customers. However, to say that Thendic are blameless for peddling a product advertised as being able to accept an announced G4 module and then turning around and saying “sorry” is just not on. You can argue that Thendic have been good enough to provide a cheap upgrade to the Pegasos 2, but that’s not a work of kindness from Thendic – it’s simply the very LEAST they could do. Quite simply, the Pegasos 1 has been marked under false pretenses with regards to G4 and this offer simply covers Thendic from people demanding their money back. Of course, it doesn’t make up for the fact that these G4 modules were supposed to be available and on sale.
Shit happens in this industry. Delays happen, problems arise and hardware fails. The original AmigaOne was lost well before the waiting public were told it had been flushed down the toilet and I personally purchased an Elbox Tower for my A1200 to house one when the people behind the scenes already knew it wasn’t going to be released. I can accept this. I can accept the Pegasos 1 project going to hell over discovered problems and I think it’s excellent that there will be a (better) Pegasos 2. What I can’t stomach is the mindless morons that think it’s OK for this to happen to Thendic, but when it happens to Eyetch then they deserve to by crucified. Two faced hypocrites!!!
Enough of this rant. To Pegasos 1 owners: I hope you get your upgrade to the Pegasos 2. To those people who ordered a G4 Pegasos 1: Time to change your order to an AmigaOne XEG4. To those people waiting for the Pegasos 2 – better make yourselves comfortable…
One lesson we can all learn from this is to stop attacking the "other side", because it’s not funny when the situation turns around and bites you on the ass. Plus, if you do insist on going on the offensive then don’t cry like a baby when you find yourself subjected to a full counter-attack. |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 13:47 GMT | In reply to Comment 150 (Leki):
>>OS4 beta runs nice on it..
oh really? os4 beta does not exist. an alpha does not even exist. running 68k components under os3.x is not an alpha. btw if they had got os4 alpha booting on cyberstorm don't u think they would have announced it wit great fanfare? |
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| Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 22-Feb-2003 13:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 148 (cheesegrate):
At least we don't go around pretending we already have SMP when we didn't even have a dual CPU module yet nor a possibility to implement it inside the A-Box.
Yes, the Quark kernel supports SMP from the start.
No, we were never able to test it, we are just assuming it works because we have no dual CPU module.
And BTW, you can't ever use it in the A-Box.
Now who's deceiving the public here by listing it as a feature.
At least in our feature-list it says "planned and partially implemented". |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 13:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 149 (cheesegrate):
aww poor cheesegrate....whats up....you all upset you cant have a G4 pegasos and that the AmigaOne G4 is available on monday?
its ok....you can cry if you want to |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2003 13:49 GMT | In reply to Comment 113 (Max):
>Btw it's still possible for a third party to make a G4 upgrade module.
Nobody has made such commitment yet, so keep this in the real of wishful thinking |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 156 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 13:49 GMT | In reply to Comment 151 (Darrin):
>Oh yes, I remember: Max, Senex, David Scheibler, Stobe, Mahan, Chessegrate, >Nicolas Sallin and a handful of others
Oh Darrin Baby, there you go again, lumping people in camps and factions! please evolve beyond that level. strobe is one of the most intelligent persons on this board and he is far from being a morph sycophant as am it.
i have actually come to the conclusion i have grave ethical concerns about dealing with a company (thendic or whatever) that works wit hthe french intelligence services and provides drug testing kits to corporates.. |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 157 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ami603 on 22-Feb-2003 13:53 GMT | In reply to Comment 151 (Darrin):
@Darrin:
Nice rant ;-) |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 13:54 GMT | In reply to Comment 153 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
>Oh yes, I remember: Max, Senex, David Scheibler, Stobe, Mahan, Chessegrate, >Nicolas Sallin and a handful of others
indeed the whole SMP, Altivec thing is a big blow smoke up ure ass thing.
let's make it clear.
AOS API does not support SMP or G4 Altivec at this stage.
97% Linux apps do not support Altivec at this stage.
A g4 is useless in this enviroment. |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2003 13:54 GMT | In reply to Comment 120 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
uuuuuuhhhhh, somebody is in a bad mood for the recent news.... ;-)
Losing the faith huh? |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 160 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Outsider on 22-Feb-2003 13:56 GMT | This community is so pathetic! On one side you have AOne/AOS 4 believer that destroy the Pegasos/MOS but have nothing better to offer (AmigaOS 4 is not available and seems to still need time), on the other side, Pegasos/MOS followers and users that try to defend their choice even if it seems that it'll not be possible to purchase a Peg 2 until September.
So the conclusion of this is that there will not be anything with latest technology to buy which is Amiga like (I mean with an AmigaOS like OS) until end 2003 (Pegasos 2)/begin 2004 (AOne with AOS 4). Anyway at the end it seems that Pegasos will be better technically (DDR, Gigabit Ethernet), but we still have to wait :(
@AOne/AOS4 believers: Stop bashing the Pegasos as you still don't have a AmigaOS compatible solution to offer and doesn't seem to have one before the end of the year
@Pegasos/MOS fans: Well at least you've the Peg 1 with MOS but it'll be stopped soon and you'll have to wait for the Peg 2
So to all of you: SHUT UP until there is something to talk about! In both camps there is nothing in the short future available that has anything to do with Amiga (ok the Peg 1 will be available for few months but there will be a blank anyway after the last ones are sold out). So stop fighting for non existant things! |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 13:56 GMT | In reply to Comment 154 (Leki):
>aww poor cheesegrate....whats up....you all upset you cant have a G4 pegasos >and that the AmigaOne G4 is available on monday?
yes i am sure you will see a great increase in speed in linux under a G4, NOT!
I think i will stick to Debian on my 33mhz imac at the moment!
btw regarding DDR in Pegasos 2, only an emac or an amiga one fanatic would purchase a computer with SDRAM in 2003!!!!!!!! |
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| Posted by Darrin on 22-Feb-2003 13:58 GMT | In reply to Comment 156 (cheesegrate):
If I was wrong about Strobe's stance then I appologise. However, we both know where WE stand ;-)
>>i have actually come to the conclusion i have grave ethical concerns about dealing with a company (thendic or whatever) that works wit hthe french intelligence services and provides drug testing kits to corporates..
The French have "Intelligence Services?"!!! Oh, yes - that must be how they knew where the Rainbow Warrior was birthed before they stuck that limpet mine on it - "BOOM!!!!". :-) |
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| Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 22-Feb-2003 13:59 GMT | In reply to Comment 158 (cheesegrate):
Oh, so now a G4 is useless?
It does outperform the 750 FX you know.
And it has superior FPU performance.
One thing you don't seem to understand about Altivec is that the Altivec units are just like an FPU: you need to explicitly support them in your code.
Just like you can compile code with hardware FPU, you need to compile code with Altivec support.
All the OS can do is include certain modules which have this support included or provide a means to arbitrate ALtivec streams which is exactly what Altivec.resource does on OS 4.
But then who I am ofcourse. After all, bPlan was handing out flyers claiming G5 support for the Pegasos when the actual CPU had not even materialised and still hasn't. |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 14:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 151 (Darrin):
> And best of all, they told us that the Pegasos 1 would have G4 and dual G4 >cards (remember, the AamigaOne wouldn’t – big selling point).
>Sorry guys. Your credibility is now ZERO, zip, bugger all.
instead of a g4 upgrade u get amotherboard for the same price!
i think their cred has gone up instead of down, but hey that's imho. darrin you were in the navy maybe u can act like the american goverment and kill me if you don't agree wit me or something ;) |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2003 14:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 155 (Anonymous):
Even if someone was willing to make new CPU modules bplan wouldn't give them access to the required information and get mr buck to proclaim that they're not allowed to just like the GRex. |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 166 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mostafa on 22-Feb-2003 14:01 GMT | In reply to Comment 154 (Leki):
I really dont you should make such claims about the A1XE being available on Monday.
As Alan said if all the currect XE users find no problems then the shipment can go ahead from Taiwan and be with Eyetech withing 4-5 days and then it would be sent to users 25-50 a day.
It would be great if it was from Monday as I have one on order, but lets not set ourselves up for a fall. |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 167 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Groover McMeister on 22-Feb-2003 14:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 72 (Anonymous):
> Posted by Anonymous (195.44.0.224) on 22-Feb-2003 08:52:54
> In Reply to Comment 71:
> I have a hunch that your a child abuser.
>
>But if im wrong then that's OK too
Trolls that post on message boards as 'anonymous' like you are the child abusers |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 168 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 151 (Darrin):
Darrin couldn't agree more with you.....alot of morphos/pegasos fans are just in denial, blind, and will convince themselfs that really bad pegasos news is acctually good news when really deep down they know the truth!! |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:04 GMT | In reply to Comment 152 (cheesegrate):
>oh really? os4 beta does not exist. an alpha does not even exist. running 68k
>components under os3.x is not an alpha. btw if they had got os4 alpha booting
>on cyberstorm don't u think they would have announced it wit great fanfare?
cheesegrate you know less than nothing......your a total idiot and not really worth responsing to.....but then again everyone can see that just from reading your posts on ann.lu ....try a mental hosital....they *might* be able to offer you some help |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:05 GMT | In reply to Comment 168 (Leki):
Leki: it's half good news, half bad news.
Good : better hardware, cheap upgrade price !
Bad : only 400 peg 1 boards then nothing until september
We don't care if we can't upgrade our Peg 1 because the Peg 1 -> Peg 2 upgrade won't be more expensive than the planned G3 -> G4 upgrade. In this extent it's GREAT NEWS !
BUT PLEASE EVERYONE : just respect each other. Stop insulting each other ! |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 169 (Leki):
Leki : Hyperion admitted recently that there's no OS4 beta yet : the 68k emulator integration is NOT done yet. It's ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
There are however parts being beta tested here and there.
No OS4 on the A1 yet.
*It's just a fact.*
Even Hermans would agree w/ that. |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 14:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 163 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
>It does outperform the 750 FX you know.
without altivec:negligible
>One thing you don't seem to understand about Altivec is that the Altivec units >are just like an FPU: you need to explicitly support them in your code.
o.k mr hermans.
- how long has linux had alitvec support?
- how many notable linux apps support altivec?
- why did it take major soft developers months to suport altivec on macos?
why dosen't morphos and the (forthcoming???) aos4.0 support altivec? |
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| Posted by Darth_X on 22-Feb-2003 14:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 131 (Anonymous):
@Anonymous (172.181.109.84)
@ "As senior morphOS developer Nicolas Sallin probably know better"
@ As senior morphOS developer he doesn't get out enough and is probably a virgin ;)
OK.. I admit it!!! I DON'T get out much and I am a VIRGIN!!! :P |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 174 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 161 (cheesegrate):
>I think i will stick to Debian on my 33mhz imac at the moment!
ok you stick to your 33Mhz imac then....im sure you love the speed LOL
>btw regarding DDR in Pegasos 2, only an emac or an amiga one fanatic would >purchase a computer with SDRAM in 2003!!!!!!!!
lol what does the current pegasos sue then....SDRAM....so you just called all your fanical friends then haha
at least we can buy a G4 Amiga hardware on monday...you cant!....plus by the time the pegasos 2 does come out (if it ever will) then a new AmigaOne will be out. |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 174 (Leki):
Leki :
STOP speaking in terms of camps ! That's what is leading to this PATHETIC situations : people fighting for nothing, without knowing all the facts. |
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| Posted by JoannaK on 22-Feb-2003 14:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 160 (Outsider):
Agree.. This is too much for essentially nothing.
A) OS4 is not here and as long as it's not ready Aone have no practical value (for Linux box it's highly overpriced anyhow) for me. When it comes I'll look it again with more interest.
B) Dropping G4 from pegasos-1 is debatable decision, but after all this I have to assume Genesi *has* good reason for not maiking G4 available to Pegasos-1 at all. They would have not taken this much heat for nothing. And same goes for movign to Pegasos-2.
So.. If you are interested of one or another existing (in few weeks ?) systems you go anf buy one. If not you'll wait for future releases on later dates or go to alternative systems.. (like using windowse)
Should be clear? |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 14:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 174 (Leki):
>lol what does the current pegasos sue then....SDRAM....so you just called all >your fanical friends then haha
exactly? what's the point when u can buy a second hand mac for a lot cheaper than a pegasos 1
>at least we can buy a G4 Amiga hardware on monday...you cant!....plus by the >time the pegasos 2 does come out (if it ever will) then a new AmigaOne will be >out
We, you, whatever. anyone who put's people into camps can get fucked as far as i am concerened, btw the new mai mb might be out with DDR but will OS4.0 be out by then??? :P |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2003 14:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 172 (cheesegrate):
I've never done any low level PPC stuff but I would assume that the Altivec units are accessed and used much any other part of the CPU like the ALU and registers therefor OS support would simply be a wrapper for the Altivec functions. |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:14 GMT | In reply to Comment 160 (Outsider):
@Outsider
read darrins post as to why the AmigaOS side have something to say about this.....we had to put up with tons of idiotic abuse from the morphos side when we were in a kinda same situation....now that the boot is on the other foot why should we just sit here without giving our opinion? |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 14:16 GMT | In reply to Comment 174 (Leki):
>ok you stick to your 33Mhz imac then....im sure you love the speed LOL
sorry meant 333mhz imac;) + 600mhz ibook and 500 mhz g4 powerbook.
i'm sure there are a lot of ex amiga users in ppc mac land who would love to use mos or aos eventually on their mac systems..
sadly mos seems tied to pegasos and all the blah about it being avaible for mac will eventuate to nothing. same goes with aos and amigaone |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:16 GMT | In reply to Comment 166 (Mostafa):
was just going off what david from the mos side was saying :) |
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| Posted by David Scheibler on 22-Feb-2003 14:17 GMT | In reply to Comment 163 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
>Oh, so now a G4 is useless?
>It does outperform the 750 FX you know.
Nobody said G4 is useless. |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 181 (Leki):
stop with this "mos side" !!! All this contempt is due to our making sides ! There should not be sides... Only products and companies !
This way maybe you would be more *open* and would consider that maybe all that comes from genesi & mos users is not necessarily evil and wrong.
(oh, Hyperion, my heros !) |
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| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 22-Feb-2003 14:21 GMT | In reply to Comment 151 (Darrin):
You can be sure about one thing. Amiga Inc *IS* almost bust and will have to
announce it REALLY soon. I'm sure they don't want unpaid people to shout it
in news sites first:) |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:22 GMT | In reply to Comment 164 (cheesegrate):
>instead of a g4 upgrade u get amotherboard for the same price!
>i think their cred has gone up instead of down, but hey that's imho. darrin you
>were in the navy maybe u can act like the american goverment and kill me if you
>don't agree wit me or something ;)
so what your saying is "instead of a G4 computer now you can have one hopefully by september or next year if there are delays"
yeah that sounds real good lol |
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| Posted by David Scheibler on 22-Feb-2003 14:24 GMT | In reply to Comment 184 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Well no problem, as Mr Hermans already made the first attempt with his
interview to calm down people when it will actually happen. But then he's a
smart business man and knows better what will happen to his own company and
products when this will actually happen. Afterall the "Amiga name" is always
good for some attention in the international media. |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:25 GMT | In reply to Comment 185 (Leki):
Leki : it's a compromise... People who want can order a G3 pegasos from monday and play with morphos and wait for sept for a great new DDR (bi) G4 pegasos at a cheap price...
anways, mos FILES on a G3 !
It's not the best situation agreed ! |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 188 (mahen):
flies I mean ;) |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 175 (mahen):
>STOP speaking in terms of camps ! That's what is leading to this PATHETIC >situations : people fighting for nothing, without knowing all the facts.
there is 2 camps though....one with AmigaOS fans and one with morphos fanatics. it just seems that there is ALOT more idiots in the morphos camp. however there are also people who are interested in both or more interested in one side but dont go speading bollox and abuse all the time (which is prolly what your in like me). |
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| Posted by cheesegrate on 22-Feb-2003 14:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 171 (mahen):
>No OS4 on the A1 yet.
No OS4 BETA on Amiga68k+CyberstormPPC yet.
Where MOS was more than 2+ years ago!
Gives the BIAFS an idea of how long to wait for their saviour!!!!
LekI: u cockcrackwhore, take the rosetinted dildo out your ass! |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 190 (Leki):
Leki: please look at yourself before insulting the others... Why would MOS fans be fanatics and AOS fans be just fans ?
We should rather be fighting for the truth !
Remember, MOS fans are also amigans ! |
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| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 190 (Leki):
I'm mean, it's just so clear you're TOTALLY sided and don't listen to what the others say..
BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE for some morphos fans.
So let's ALL grow up and behave like adults. |
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| Posted by Leki on 22-Feb-2003 14:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 177 (cheesegrate):
>We, you, whatever. anyone who put's people into camps can get fucked as far as
>i am concerened, btw the new mai mb might be out with DDR but will OS4.0 be out
>by then??? :P
oh so your telling me your not in a camp...that you arn`t biased to the morphos side and that you are neutal and always post meaning full posts not abusing any other alternatives to the pegasos?....yeah right LOL |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 195 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 22-Feb-2003 14:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 190 (Leki):
Either you say that there are at least 3 camps all with about the same amount
of idiots or you can say that there are no camps... just idiots. :)
That's the truth and some research on ann can CERTAINLY confirm that. |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 196 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Darrin on 22-Feb-2003 14:29 GMT | In reply to Comment 164 (cheesegrate):
>>i think their cred has gone up instead of down, but hey that's imho. darrin you were in the navy maybe u can act like the american goverment and kill me if you don't agree wit me or something ;)
Please!!! I was ARMY (My brother was Royal Navy)!!! Besides, I don't do requests ;-) |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 197 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 22-Feb-2003 14:30 GMT | In reply to Comment 184 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Wrong again, Alkis. Laugh well, who laughs last |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 198 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by mahen on 22-Feb-2003 14:30 GMT | In reply to Comment 193 (mahen):
I mean, what Hermans says is not necessarily true (or false)... Let's wait for facts : here we talk about nothing because we lack so many facts ! |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 199 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 22-Feb-2003 14:33 GMT | In reply to Comment 197 (Anonymous):
I can back up my claims with facts. Can you? Why don't you ask your friend
McEwen why he didn't turn up in the unpaid employee case? :) I won't state the
name of the employee, people that know it, know him. BTW, why doesn't he have
money to pay lawyers? |
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| Pegasos to go on sale on Monday - Pegasos II to be available in September 2003 : Comment 200 of 318 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by David Scheibler on 22-Feb-2003 14:34 GMT | In reply to Comment 197 (Anonymous):
Yes we will see. Just wait for the new announcement Mr Hermans announced. It'll
really be fun if they (Amiga Inc.) don't come up with the truth what happened
last year in that announcement. |
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