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[News] Yest another AROS update...ANN.lu
Posted on 28-Feb-2003 19:04 GMT by Matt Parsons20 comments
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New SVGA drivers are included with the latest version of AROS available from my site. Also to note is that I now support and recomend the CD-Rom version of AROS, please use it if possible. you can now use Hi-Colour(16bit) and True-Colour(32bit) graphics. It still has bugs, as noted in readme and on my news page, but it should work. Enjoy :-)
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Posted by Matt P. on 28-Feb-2003 18:21 GMT
oops.. I forgot to add the link... damn, I'm getting forgetfull in my old age.

http://www.ahsodit.com/aros/index.html
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Posted by CodeSmith on 28-Feb-2003 21:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Matt P.):
Hi, have you thought of adding SNAP support to aros? According to scitech, it should only take 1000 lines of code or so, and you'll have a boatload of display drivers available to you.
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Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 28-Feb-2003 21:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (CodeSmith):
> Hi, have you thought of adding SNAP support to aros? According to scitech, it
> should only take 1000 lines of code or so, and you'll have a boatload of display
> drivers available to you.

SNAP costs money for non GPL'd software. Moreover, the only drivers available for free, under the GPL license, are the VGA and VESA ones, which we already have.
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Posted by 3seas on 28-Feb-2003 22:01 GMT
Thanks Matt, I was just at you site a few days ago... Was wondering....guess the mental telepathy is working...... ;)
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 28-Feb-2003 22:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (3seas):
You and your Jedi Mind tricks!!!!

GET OUT OF MY BRAIN.... Later :-D
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Posted by 3seas on 28-Feb-2003 23:07 GMT
Oh yeah....as an option to using a rewritable CD the smaller 3" CDs or even the business card CD are cheap enough. In fact they have plenty more room for more.

AROS business card CDs...... ;)
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 28-Feb-2003 23:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (3seas):
Funny you should mention that actually, I was thinking about that only the other day (I found some cheap CD-R Business cards). The current AROS CD-ROM build is only 30megs and you can squeeze 100meg on one of those business card CDs... so it's perfectly possible to have AROS on a business card!!!
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Posted by 3seas on 01-Mar-2003 02:34 GMT
I just noticed that the CD image no longer contains Python. Any particular reason for this?

BTW, The business card I just used only held 52 meg. But the 3" disk I know vary in amount... Suspect the business cards do to.
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Posted by CodeSmith on 01-Mar-2003 05:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Fabio Alemagna):
Ah, I didn't know that. That kinda sucks then, it's GPLd but you can only use the "good" drivers if you pay. Fair enough, but then they shouldn't say how good they're being by releasing under GPL and commercial.

Congrats on aros, btw :)
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Posted by Brother BOB, Loyal Amigan Monk, pre-emptive strike on 01-Mar-2003 09:27 GMT
You realise that AROS is the only open source operating system that has the power to DE-THRONE Linux?

WELL IT WILL!
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Posted by Raffaele on 01-Mar-2003 09:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (3seas):
Me too, 3seas, and more I visit AROS site once a day exploring for signs of life...

;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

That is nice news...

And by the way, when downloading the CD are there (perhaps) any TCP-IP stack and a Browser, or are still on the way to go?

Bye,

Raffaele
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Posted by 4pLaY on 01-Mar-2003 09:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Raffaele):
The website is very rarely these days updated! for "signs of life" get into the ML or vivist the IRC channel! as for tcp/ip its beeing worked on or was last i checked but its going SLOW and with this speed it will take a LONG time unless someone suddenly starts working harder on it! as for browser well you first need a tcp/ip :-).
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Mar-2003 10:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (CodeSmith):
In the "Free World" ScitTech's SNAP software isn't important anyway. Linux, *BSD, etc. use XFree86 which is the reference implementation of the X Window System. So they get totally free, OS neutral accelerated 2D drivers fo ~200 cards (sound familiar?) as well as 3D drivers for a lot of recent cards.
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Posted by Stas Pi on 01-Mar-2003 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
Is it possible to use some kind of x86 emulator for 2D/3D drivers on PPC? Just remap gfx mem of peecee to amiga chip mem and the stuff related and let x86 emu to make the rest. Is it realisable?

I'm just a beginer in amiga programming, so don't blame for that ;).
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 01-Mar-2003 12:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Brother BOB, Loyal Amigan Monk, pre-emptive strike):
That is a nice idea!!!

Once Fabio has got the C++ compiler to work within AROS, I hope the comunity sprit will pick up and maybe we will have a viable alternative to Linux.

This can only happen with a strong communiy, remember the are lots of OpenSource operating systems out there... though, you will find most are based on Linux/BSD, or are POSIX... Which makes AROS, at the very least, the most interesting OpenSource OS Project :-D
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Posted by 3seas on 01-Mar-2003 12:32 GMT
Still wondering about PyAROS (AROS python) and why it wasn't included in the CD iso image.For those interested PyAROS is available at source forge. I suppose adding it to a AROS CD is where the use of a re-writeable CD comes inhandy, as you'd need to first make the AROS CD from the image (on the rewriteable), get PyAROS from sourceforge and then create another (business card of larger) CD from combining both.And the same process would go for any other AROS software not included in the CD iso image.I suspect PyAROS was simply broken off the AROS project into it's own project for a number of reasons, like licensing differences, as a starting point or message for not needing to include AROS application software, ports, etc. in the main distribution. Sending the message that software developers need not have to coordinate with the AROS team..It would have been a little helpful to have known PyAROS wasn't included. But the AROS CD image D/L was smaller because if it.
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Posted by 3seas on 01-Mar-2003 12:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Brother BOB, Loyal Amigan Monk, pre-emptive strike):
Dethrone linux.....:) not likely, least not before the Hurd does, and given what the Hurd is, it's probably a more productive direction to consider using AROS as a user space OS to interface with the Hurd and such GNU resources.(no reason to reinvent the wheel, but making it easier to use.....)
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 01-Mar-2003 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (3seas):
Upon closer inspection, you are right the Business cards do only hold 50meg!!! but that is still more than enough for the whole AROS project including all the contributed software.
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Posted by Lennart Fridén on 02-Mar-2003 10:51 GMT
When Amiga Inc. and Genesi are gone and forgotten, AROS will still move on and on and on...:-)
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 02-Mar-2003 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Lennart Fridén):
That may well be true.

But I think that both AmigaOS4 and MorphOS are really interesting projects and look forward to seeing how they develop! And wish them as much sucess as I wish upon AROS.
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