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[Files] AROS UpdateANN.lu
Posted on 03-Mar-2003 21:08 GMT by Matt Parsons (Edited on 2003-03-04 00:45:09 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä)36 comments
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I realise it's getting a bit boring now, but AROS has had some major bug fixes and updates... You know where to go: http://www.ahsodit.com/aros/index.html
AROS Update : Comment 1 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 03-Mar-2003 22:25 GMT
Is there a distro for Pegasos planned?
AROS Update : Comment 2 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 03-Mar-2003 23:02 GMT
I prefer to be bored with frequent updates than to be bored to have no updates ...
AROS Update : Comment 3 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Colin on 03-Mar-2003 23:49 GMT
Respect must go out to the guys behind Aros who are producing and updating software, maybe the Amiga companies would take note for once.
AROS Update : Comment 4 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by DDJ on 04-Mar-2003 00:45 GMT
Like somebody used to say :), Go AROS go :), will be great have a 16, 24 and/or 32 bits Workbench AROS screen with some tools for day by day, like SimplEMail, a browser and other little Internet tools.

I allways check the AROS site, and the updates is very fast now :), my dream becoming true :) A X86 AmigaOS-like.

If AROS become big and very usable, i can bet this will become to the ONE Amiga future OS, i mean, FREE :) with CHEAP and POWERFULL hardware, and everyone can buy this HW´s in your own country :) or may i say "use wath we already have :)".

Again Go AROS go :).
AROS Update : Comment 5 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 04-Mar-2003 05:00 GMT
Many thanks to the AROS team, your a huge credit to the Amiga Community to have such dedicated individuals.

Now if you could only make an automated disk prep/installer. ;)

Dammy
AROS Update : Comment 6 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Andy on 04-Mar-2003 09:08 GMT
AROS is the only right way to those bright Amiga future mentioned by Bill McEwen. Alas, we have to admit that such future not included in Amiga Inc. plans they want do nothing as always and get money for this :))) - really dumb.
AROS Update : Comment 7 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 04-Mar-2003 10:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Andy):
This seems to be the other way around - the AROS team does everything but gets nothing. Well, except gratitude.
;-)
AROS Update : Comment 8 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Georg Steger on 04-Mar-2003 10:56 GMT
People on who's machines the VESA driver did not work last
time should wait till tomorrow and then download and try
the floppy image from

http://aros.sourceforge.net/snapshots2.html

If you can't wait - depending on when exactly Matt created
the snapshots - the following might work too:

- in GRUB bootmanager press C key to get into GRUB console

- enter "vbeprobe" to get a list of modes. Pick a 16 bit
one and remember the mode id (0x????). Important: It
should be 0x4??? (for example 0x4111). If it is not,
ie. it instead is shown as 0x111, add (OR) 0x4000 to it.
0x111 -> 0x4111, 0x321 --> 0x4321.

- enter "kernel /boot/aros-pc-i386.gz gfx=hidd.gfx.vesa lib=vesagfx.hidd"

- enter "setvbe #MODEID" (replace MODEID with 0x4111 or whatever it was)
don't forget the # char before the modeid.

- enter "boot"
AROS Update : Comment 9 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 04-Mar-2003 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (takemehomegrandma):
In a strange way, AROS is just as "selfish" as the other projects... afterall we make AROS because we want an operating system for ourselves to do what we want.., the only thing is that we don't mind if others want to play with us and join the party.

Hehehehe, just another view point :-D

BTW, I run AROS 1024*768*16... it's great fun!!!
And don't forget "sys:contrib/demos/" is where you will find the fun stuff.
AROS Update : Comment 10 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 04-Mar-2003 11:39 GMT
boring? no way! its great to see update information for this important
'research' project.

alan
AROS Update : Comment 11 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 04-Mar-2003 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Darth_X):
AROS on the Pegasos? Well, if someone would be willing i suppose it could happen, however, i doubt it will.

AROS as it is now is mostly run on x86 hardware, and i don't even know of an up to date port for the classic amiga's.

However, it's looking more & more complete, i hope they'll finish it soon :)

Amon_Re
AROS Update : Comment 12 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 04-Mar-2003 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Georg Steger):
>- enter "setvbe #MODEID" (replace MODEID with 0x4111 or whatever it was)
don't forget the # char before the modeid.

=> Typing "setvbe #0x4114" gives me the following error:

Error 23: Error while parsing number
AROS Update : Comment 13 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 04-Mar-2003 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Leo):
I just had a look at the Grub documentation and the command "setvbe" is not
even mentionned...
AROS Update : Comment 14 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 04-Mar-2003 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Leo):
> => Typing "setvbe #0x4114" gives me the following error:
> Error 23: Error while parsing number

You should first download the latest floppy snapshot from http://aros.sf.net/downloads
AROS Update : Comment 15 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 04-Mar-2003 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Fabio Alemagna):
> http://aros.sf.net/downloads

Oops, sorry, that was meant to be http://aros.sf.net/snapshots.html
AROS Update : Comment 16 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 04-Mar-2003 14:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Fabio Alemagna):
will you add OpenPCI.library support? It would be cool...
AROS Update : Comment 17 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 04-Mar-2003 14:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Crumb // AAT):
> will you add OpenPCI.library support? It would be cool...

It's not in our plans at the moment.
AROS Update : Comment 18 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 04-Mar-2003 14:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Amon_Re):
Porting AROS to Pegasos (or even to 68k Amiga) is not more then a few weeks work! BUT whos gonna do it? as it is now there is a million other more important things to do then port AROS to other cpus! but any "outsider" is free to do it if they want.
AROS Update : Comment 19 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Per Larsson on 04-Mar-2003 15:00 GMT
From Matt Parsons site:
"I am currently trying to find out if there are any legal reasons why I can't include the freeware Quake and Doom playable demos (wad files) on my CD distro."

What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) AROS?
AROS Update : Comment 20 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 04-Mar-2003 15:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Fabio Alemagna):
I already downloaded the latest kernel (CD ISO) from Matt's site (dated 3 mars 2003)

The floppies from the site are also dated 3 mars 2003 but I will have a look anyway...
AROS Update : Comment 21 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 04-Mar-2003 16:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Leo):
Oky... it *seems* to work with these disk images... But I have no way to know
if the WB is in 16 bit or 16 color...

=> I also have the contrib ISO: how can I mount the CDROM when I have booted with the floppy so that I can try the contrib software ?
AROS Update : Comment 22 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 04-Mar-2003 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Leo):
Oky... it *seems* to work with these disk images... But I have no way to know
if the WB is in 16 bit or 16 color...

=> I also have the contrib ISO: how can I mount the CDROM when I have booted with the floppy so that I can try the contrib software ?
AROS Update : Comment 23 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
>What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) >AROS?
It was ported a long time ago
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000301/doom4.jpg
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000224/quake3.jpg
AROS Update : Comment 24 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
>What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) >AROS?
It was ported a long time ago
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000301/doom4.jpg
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000224/quake3.jpg
AROS Update : Comment 25 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
>What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) >AROS?
It was ported a long time ago
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000301/doom4.jpg
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000224/quake3.jpg
AROS Update : Comment 26 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
>What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) >AROS?
It was ported a long time ago
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000301/doom4.jpg
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000224/quake3.jpg
AROS Update : Comment 27 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
>What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) >AROS?
It was ported a long time ago
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000301/doom4.jpg
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000224/quake3.jpg
AROS Update : Comment 28 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
>What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?) >AROS?
It was ported a long time ago
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000301/doom4.jpg
http://www.aros.org/pics/screenshots/20000224/quake3.jpg
AROS Update : Comment 29 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by aros-dev on 04-Mar-2003 16:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (aros-dev):
eeeh something went wrong!!
sorry
AROS Update : Comment 30 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 04-Mar-2003 17:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Per Larsson):
> What? Does AROS run 68k software? Or is Doom and Quake already ported to (x86?)
> AROS?

Doom I and Quake I have been ported to AROS ages ago :)
AROS Update : Comment 31 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 04-Mar-2003 21:40 GMT
Cool!Maybe this one will boot from CD on this Aptiva AMDk6-2 266 I grabed that someone tossed.... Hmmmm, Free OS and Free Hardware to run it on... Just for teh fun and truth of it:It had Windows95 On it when I got it but who ever threw it out deleted enough files that it would boot but to a solid color screen (I could boot to Dos though).I tried to install Windows98 on it but that turned out to be a rather big pain in the arse, so I then pulled out the Linux Red Hat 6.1 disks and installed it and with a couple minor problems I got past....But it wouldn't boot the AROS cd, though my other AMDK6-2 system does just fine (unless I boot into a resolution other than default)I haven't tried booting AROS from a floppy yet, on that free hardware. But did order "College Linux" for $8 from linuxcd.orgThey have a number of Linux Distributions and for a price that is along the lines of media cost, shipping and handeling.. They also have a version of BeOS (I think it was teh last version for Home use that Be released (for free) right before they closed the door.Anyway, once AROS is complete enough to consider an official Public release, Linuxcd.org might be interested in listing it... shrugWhat I'm hoping for is that I can make these system (x86) that I have collected (free from others tossing them) useful again with AROS or such alternative (NONWINDOWs) OSs and give them to people I know.
AROS Update : Comment 32 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 05-Mar-2003 10:24 GMT
CD-image won't boot on my system where earlier version did... shrug
AROS Update : Comment 33 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 05-Mar-2003 11:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (3seas):
Oddly enough the CD not booting problem has just started on one of my machines... The CD boots into the bootloader (Grub) and then loads the Kernel, but after that AROS just askes for a Floppy to continue the boot... It's very stange as nothing has been changed in teh IDE drivers for quite a while....

I'm guessing there is a problem with the ALi Magic 1 chipset, as that is the only big difference between my two machines...
AROS Update : Comment 34 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 05-Mar-2003 13:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Matt Parsons):
Sound more like memory corruption to me, they can be hard to find with out memory protection enabled.
AROS Update : Comment 35 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Matt P. on 05-Mar-2003 22:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Kjetil):
Hmmm, I seriously doubt memory corruption has anything to do with it (that would probably cause a crash)... I think the IDE device just needs to mature... It's getting old and Johan has said that he wants to rewrite it.
AROS Update : Comment 36 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 06-Mar-2003 23:50 GMT
I was able to get the floppy image to boot but in short time of being in AROS it would begin a reboot... while the screen stayed ... not giving me any indication of a reboot (cept floppy spinning and eventualy screen of decompressing the tgz..)
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