| [News] Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! | ANN.lu |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 1 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Sven Harvey on 06-Mar-2003 23:55 GMT | Oh well, doesn`t make much of a difference does it...
Would be bloody ironic if the OS was completed only a few weeks later though, its a bit of a shame, but lets face it what difference would it have made actually launching at CeBit these days? None. Shows such as that are pretty much obsolete anyway... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 2 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 00:05 GMT | OH MY GOD, WHAT A SURPRISE!!!! :-P
Funny press release, BTW. :-)
"We're a couple of years late, and now yet another totally unrealistic deadline has been broken, but everything is 'proceeding well', just like in any of our announcements the last three years, and we're in the 'final stages', just like in any of our announcements the last year and a half. BTW, give us fifty bucks, and we'll tell you about some of the modules that one of these days will be used to make AmigaOS... Chop chop, Hyperion." |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 3 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by JoannaK on 07-Mar-2003 00:10 GMT | Well.. Nothing really new here. No money for booth reservation, no product to show. Pitty that no-one told Amiga.inc those CeBit booth reservations were closed weeks ago. So waiting this long was totally unnecesssary. :)
I did hope they indeed get that OS4 into somewhat demoeable state sometime soon. Well.. perhaps in AmiGBG? |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 4 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Graham on 07-Mar-2003 01:31 GMT | Well, that wasn't unexpected...
I really think that in recompense they should put up some carrots though, like some real-life screenshots of OS4 working, the final GUI look, or something at least. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 5 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Adam Waldenberg on 07-Mar-2003 01:36 GMT | In reply to Comment 4 (Graham):
Once everything is actually working and it is in a somewhat usable state, they probably will... ;) |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 6 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Colin on 07-Mar-2003 01:44 GMT | They can not even sort out simple t-shirts so how the hell are they going to be clever and reserve booth/s is a mystery.
Everyone should ignore jokes like Amiga inc and their nonsense and just concentrate on the Amiga companies what actually do something. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 7 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by God on 07-Mar-2003 01:46 GMT | Be patient, look in the mirror, think hard, save your money, and for my sakes, please do not drink so much beer, its hard on your liver (-:
God |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 8 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Some Farer on 07-Mar-2003 05:08 GMT | TWO...WEEKS
B I G!
"We apologize to the commmunity for waiting until the last possible moment to make this announcement but despite heroic efforts by all concerned, even up to the last minute, circumstances have conspired to push completion beyond the deadline. We have regretfully decided that making CeBIT Germany the AmigaOS 4 launch platform is not a realistic option at present. "
*chuckle*
Thank god I haven't bought an overpriced Linux box... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 9 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Atheist2 on 07-Mar-2003 05:51 GMT | They probably saved a lot of money. Advertising through the internet is practically free. They should do a mega-e-mail when they're done, and just have the phrase "A new Dawn on the computer landscape is here" and a hypertext link to their site. This would go to a webpage with the annoucement, 4 short paragraphs, a feature list 40 lines long and on the side, thumbnail pictures that upload short video clips, and 1 that shows the whole video in one shot. Also, include length of time each video is under the picture.
Amiga! The wait will be worth it! |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 10 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by priest on 07-Mar-2003 06:13 GMT | | Not a surprise. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 11 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Remco Komduur on 07-Mar-2003 06:25 GMT | What irritates me is that people measure AmigaOS 4 against the fact that MorphOS is allready released!
Allthough Hyperion and the 30 programmers try their best to finish as soon as possible, programming on such a low-level, or programming at all for that matter, does not go fast.
Amiga OS 4 couldn't possibly be ready before or at almost the same time as MorphOS because work started much later on it. The fact that Hyperion had to do the BIOS themselves because another company didn't produce, did nothing good for the time frame! |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 12 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Kjetil on 07-Mar-2003 06:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 8 (Some Farer):
“Thank god I haven't bought an overpriced Linux box...”
It always looks like they are able to at least bobble the speed on new hardware every yare, so if any one is only interested in AmigaOS, and not the computer it’s smart to wait unit AmigaOS is demoed for the first time, even then it will takes some time before they have debugged and removed all the bugs, before the it’s finale product is shipped.
Hyperion is not getting the money of the AmigaOne sale any way, it will not speed up the development economically speaking, it’s better to butt your money on Hyperion games so they can afford having developers work on the product |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 13 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by SlimJim on 07-Mar-2003 07:15 GMT | Not so big a surprise at this point.
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SlimJim |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 14 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alex Klauke on 07-Mar-2003 08:40 GMT | In reply to Comment 11 (Remco Komduur):
> What irritates me is that people measure AmigaOS 4 against the fact that MorphOS is allready released!
If you so will, MorphOS was already released years ago. When was the first
public beta? I have not seen statements about an 'official' launch of MorphOS
1.0, so it must be yet in beta state (even if nearly perfectly usable). OS4
betas though _are_ released, just only to 77 beta testers (not 6-700 PegaSOS
users, those that bought it for use of an Amiga-like OS).
> Amiga OS 4 couldn't possibly be ready before or at almost the same time as
> MorphOS because work started much later on it.
Not the same effort. Its quite a different kind of work if you can take existing
code and compile it/port it to another processor architecture or write it from
scratch. So one could say development of OS4 started at 1992 (3.0) continued
in 1999/2000 (3.5) and 2001 (3.9) and now reaches its target. And Hyperion have
re-licensed most of the 3.9 code. MorphOS OTOH started about 1998(?), 6 yrs.
later. It only is not as simple as _just_ to recompile the code for PPC to
develope AmigaOS 4, then we could have had it earlier.
---
It was to be expected that the CeBIT appearance would be canceled, but,
that said I'm waiting for the OS4 launch party nonetheless. Something like the
A1000 presentations in 1985 at New York/Frankfurt, feat. Andy Warhol, rip
and other celebrities. Who could represent the Amiga in 2003? ;-)
Ciao, Alex |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 15 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ben on 07-Mar-2003 08:51 GMT | Of course the real race is for the first "service pack"...
Anyone who knows anything should know not to use a new OS until the first SP is out... ;) |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 16 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 07-Mar-2003 09:14 GMT | | Amiga Inc. apologists on the mark, get set... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 17 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Kjetil on 07-Mar-2003 09:14 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (Alex Klauke):
>Not the same effort. Its quite a different kind of work if you can take existing
>code and compile it/port it to another processor architecture or write it from
>scratch. So one could say development of OS4 started at 1992 (3.0) continued
>in 1999/2000 (3.5) and 2001 (3.9) and now reaches its target. And Hyperion have
>re-licensed most of the 3.9 code. MorphOS OTOH started about 1998(?), 6 yrs.
>later. It only is not as simple as _just_ to recompile the code for PPC to
>develope AmigaOS 4, then we could have had it earlier.
Don’t agree with you totally on this one the 1992 (3.0). OS3.0 where manly 68k ASM, when the 3.0 and 3.1 where developed the OS4.0 where not even planed lots of ideas and directions where Amiga where to be never got inn the way.
From OS3.5 and to OS3.9 where written many inn “C” and there fore where preparing the OS for the port to OS4.0 so you can say it started slowly on OS3.5,
Even so the focus where on functions not the port it self, so only partly I do agree, to your reasoning |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 18 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 07-Mar-2003 09:16 GMT | BTW is anybody going to comment on how LATE this announcement was?
Maybe they were waiting for those elves like those who helped the shoemaker... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 19 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by JoannaK on 07-Mar-2003 09:17 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (strobe):
Well.. They seem to be busy on Amiga.org at the moment.. We'll need to wait for a while before they get into here too :) |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 20 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Turrican on 07-Mar-2003 09:17 GMT | Dear Amigans,
some of you didn't believed in what I said. Some of you even called me a liar.
It's now time for them to realise Turrican is right. The path is still long for certain product. The waiting shall still last.
Watch out the promises, the announces. Be careful with dates, feature list and news.
For there will be a time when the Amiga will rise again. But it is not yet the time.
Your avenger,
Turrican |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 21 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by fucktard on 07-Mar-2003 09:36 GMT | hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
aehm ?
ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah
wwwwwhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
*extrem tears in eye getting*
muahahahahahahahahahahahahah
*rolling like a dumb piece of shit on the floor*
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
oki seriously this just made my day. end of amigaos 4.0 now it's officially. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 22 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 07-Mar-2003 09:42 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (fucktard):
It's not officially dead until they say "a few more weeks" |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 23 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by priest on 07-Mar-2003 09:43 GMT | In reply to Comment 20 (Turrican):
I've read Turrican say at ANN that peg+MOS will not be available before July 2003 ... but perhaps it was just a drunken shadow of the Turrican. (or you posted into a wrong thread or something...) |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 24 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Filomena on 07-Mar-2003 09:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (fucktard):
fucktard fuck you ! |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 25 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by priest on 07-Mar-2003 09:50 GMT | In reply to Comment 11 (Remco Komduur):
"MorphOS is all ready released! "
I slightly resist that... MOS is sold with a HW ... so it is not "released", it's tied to peg1 that no longer is available... ;)
(not trying to lit any flames, just an observation)
But yes, MOS exists. MOS is gaining momentum, fast. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 26 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 07-Mar-2003 09:54 GMT | In reply to Comment 25 (priest):
So I guess SunOS or IRIX was never released either. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 27 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by priest on 07-Mar-2003 10:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 26 (strobe):
Well... I had the smiley there... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 28 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Filomena on 07-Mar-2003 10:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (fucktard):
The end of amigaos 4.0 it's official only in your sad head...
And this in what way would be a good thing for the community ?
I can understand your fight with Ainc, but Hyperion **is** really the
official Amiga OS today... if you can't understand this, you aren't an amigan at all.
I like the Pegasos/Mos thing, and if I can, I will buy it also... but I can't understand this nonsense war that you and others are doing between the last
pieces of the Amiga platform...
Now, really,
be all glad that we can have two amiga-based way of exploring our passion and our heritage... we know how can be the computing done right...
...there aren't many others that can say so... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 29 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by OcineL on 07-Mar-2003 10:26 GMT | Amiga inc, Hyperion and Eyetech ...
Stop telling bullshit, show us a AOS4 working on Aone.
If you have Betatesting since septembre then show us something !!!
This is so hard to prouve that you aren't small player ?
Please make a video, screenshots, demo... but DO SOMTHING !!!
Let war a chance !
ps: this post is 100% ironic |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 30 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by fucktard on 07-Mar-2003 10:28 GMT | In reply to Comment 28 (Filomena):
Shut up. No one gives a fuck for an imaginary Operating System that only exists in your weird head. AmigaInc, Hyperion and Eyetech are fucking retards who are not even able to deliver a fucking T-Shirt. Now shut the fuck up and get over it. Amiga OS 4.0 is dead. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 31 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by reflect on 07-Mar-2003 11:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 26 (strobe):
What are you on about? I can pick up a copy of solaris or irix at any reseller.
It;s not quite the same with MorphOS, atleast not when I checked last.
There are quite a few of differences between MOS and Solars/IRIX. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 32 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 11:13 GMT | | Atleast they are honest and say they are not ready to go there. I think that's good. Ofcourse now some assholes start a flame war about it that they should have said it earlier :P But I think it's good they said it atleast now. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 33 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Filomena on 07-Mar-2003 11:15 GMT | In reply to Comment 30 (fucktard):
Ok, and you, like i said, aren't an amigan, simple !
Plonk ! |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 34 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 11:16 GMT | In reply to Comment 30 (fucktard):
I wonder why people still bother to develop anything for Amiga when there is people like you... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 35 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jon on 07-Mar-2003 11:19 GMT | | One thing I have learnt about life - it's the smallest dogs which bark most. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 36 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 11:20 GMT | In reply to Comment 31 (reflect):
Sure because Solaris or Irix is an Unix variant :) Then it would sure surprise me if those would be similar to MOS :) |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 37 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 07-Mar-2003 11:30 GMT | So if you don't kiss Hyperion ass you're not an amigan? Maybe they can hand off this project to another developer so they can claim the ball wasn't dropped...again.
BTW you amiga apologists are a riot! Maybe I should dig out all those "Just wait for CeBit, you'll see..." posts for some more hilarity. Sure, it would be great to see AOS4, but most of us gave up on that YEARS ago! It's amazing how you 'club members' can be pulled by a string for so long. A few feature lists here, some "alive and rockin'" there, some nebulous screen shots, early bird "specials"...
Oh, it's riiight around the corner, they're just beta testing it to hell so it's 100% bug free when they decide to ship it. Suuuure... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 38 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Lando on 07-Mar-2003 11:34 GMT | | OMG they won't be at CeBit? Well, to say that I'm shocked would be an understatement. You mean Amiga Inc said they were going to do something and then didn't do it? Wonders never cease... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 39 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 11:46 GMT | In reply to Comment 17 (Kjetil):
IIRC, only Exec.library and ARexx were written in 68k ASM... |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 40 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by reflect on 07-Mar-2003 11:48 GMT | In reply to Comment 36 (Anonymous):
hehe, well I was more thinking along these lines;
it's boxed, you get printed manuals and you can install it on anything from the 32bit superSPARC to the 64bit UltraSPARC III.
so saying that solaris or sunos(which is a different product, btw) never was released, is talking without knowing the facts. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 41 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Colin on 07-Mar-2003 11:51 GMT | Funny how the great Amiga inc worshipers are out in full force to protect Amiga inc when they have f**ked up yet again.
People have wasted time arranging to get to cebit but never mind as long as Amiga inc has some amazing excuse which makes the worshipers fall under the same old spell.
Amiga inc are a joke and a bad one at that. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 42 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by jchap on 07-Mar-2003 12:03 GMT | lol !
And what about a 2nd 50$ coupon to speed up development?
;o) |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 43 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 12:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (Filomena):
Yeah as I still care. Listen I was one who made up this whole scene on the beginning. Not that I care these days but just for your info. I was beliving into Amiga from day one till 1996 when I left Amiga because there was no future. I at least was real and searched something else instead letting myself fool for another 7 years like you. 2003 and still no hope in sight. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 44 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Leo on 07-Mar-2003 12:38 GMT | This is not surprising at all...
But there is one thing I do not understand: for sure, Hyperion knew since a long time OS4 would not be ready for CeBit...
Why having waited so long to finally ADMIT it ?!?
(two or three days ago, "rogue" was still writting: "We have not failed yet"...)
By doing this *they* are causing all these fud messages...
Regards,
Leo. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 45 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ketzer on 07-Mar-2003 12:42 GMT | | *shrug* so what. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 46 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Colin on 07-Mar-2003 12:49 GMT | In reply to Comment 44 (Leo):
Rogue is a first class wanker who spreads lies and false promises on Amiga.org then has the nerve to insult people who do not get a rock hard dick over hyperion. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 47 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jon on 07-Mar-2003 13:02 GMT | In reply to Comment 46 (Colin):
And who are you to constantly use language like that? |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 48 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by strobe on 07-Mar-2003 13:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 47 (Jon):
He likes thinking of rock hard penis
/guess |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 49 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rimmer on 07-Mar-2003 13:14 GMT | In reply to Comment 46 (Colin):
Go die you pathetic shithead!! Did Rouge say something that made you cry little fairy boy, huh!?!
Hyperion have always deliverd 100% quality before and will do so on OS4 to. |
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| Amiga Inc/AmigaOS4 Will not be at CeBit! : Comment 50 of 132 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Rimmer on 07-Mar-2003 13:20 GMT | | About MorphOS. If it is so "finished" why cant i go out and buy it for my CyberstormPPC board, and run it there.. like i could with the alphas? |
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