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[News] 100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now!ANN.lu
Posted on 07-Mar-2003 18:11 GMT by FOREMATT28 comments
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100%AMIGA Issue 34 Feeling ripped off at losing $50 to Amiga Inc? Find out how to get your money back even if Amiga refuses to reply… Due to concerns from our customers, this month’s feature is a step by step guide on how to retrieve your credit card payments from Amiga Inc (or any other company that has taken your money without supplying the goods). Discover the secret “rights” and “protection” you have that nobody ever tells you about and how the “credit card chargeback” system works. And yes, it is not too late to get it! Read this essential feature now. Of course we also have the usual roundup of Amiga news and free stuff on the CD.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 1 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Brother BOB, Loyal Amigan Monk, pre-emptive strike on 07-Mar-2003 17:38 GMT
What do I do?

I go to my local better business bureau and report this. In the USA I notify the IRS.

Do that.
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Posted by Troels E on 07-Mar-2003 18:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Brother BOB, Loyal Amigan Monk, pre-emptive strike):
Yeah... It's pretty simple.

you ought to think that people that wanted to do that have allready done it?
Anyway I wouldn't do it for $50...
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 3 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 18:04 GMT
You people payed the money for the silly coupon scam and you deserve all you get, this may sound offesive but trusting Amiga inc is just stupid.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 4 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 18:05 GMT
You people payed the money for the silly coupon scam and you deserve all you get, this may sound offensive but trusting Amiga inc is just stupid.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 5 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 07-Mar-2003 18:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
Well, yes that is obvious now. But at the time the coupon scheme was announced things weren't so clear. They certainly couldn't pull the same trick again, that's for sure.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 6 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 18:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Lando):
They could do a 2nd Amiga coupon offer to help Amiga inc print t-shirts :o)
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 7 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by FOREMATT on 07-Mar-2003 18:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Troels E):
"you ought to think that people that wanted to do that have allready done it?
Anyway I wouldn't do it for $50..."

You might think so but conversations I have had with customers have proved otherwise which is why we ran the article. Also, I noticed the topic was raised here on ANN (see older news about $50 and T-Shirt) where they talk about law suits (which are pointless and unneccessary) as well as a few people thinking that it is now too late to do anything.

QED - hence I believe the article will be useful for those who have not already done it, should they wish to but thought they could not
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 8 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 07-Mar-2003 18:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (FOREMATT):
Thanks forematt, and you are absolutely correct.
Many people are uninformed and nervous about doing something they have
never done before, which is demand their money back.

They may even feel its somehow risky, or feel guilty for doing it.

Your article is both timely and helpful.

And for Troels: you wouldn't do it just for $50...well, thats strange, but ok.
Most people don't get rich by throwing money away, my brother is considerable
more wealthy than most people, and he would never throw 50 bucks away.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 9 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 07-Mar-2003 19:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Brother BOB, Loyal Amigan Monk, pre-emptive strike):
Try this URL:

https://rn.ftc.gov/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

Dammy
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 10 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by José on 07-Mar-2003 20:04 GMT
Get a life
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 11 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 07-Mar-2003 22:35 GMT
They made a mistake.

Pursue them for $50, and the cost of printing and mailing checks, and labour involved, and in the process, kill Amiga Inc., and we'll all live in a better world.:(

But OTOH, all that glorious interest they earned should still leave them with a hefty profit. ;)

AmigaOne! Do you want it to come back or not?
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 12 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 08-Mar-2003 01:45 GMT
They're broke. You can't get money they don't have. It's like trying to get water from a rock.

coldfire
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 13 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 09:28 GMT
I think it's rather distasteful to advertise a product on something like this.
I wouldn't have though Forematt would do something like this.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 14 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 08-Mar-2003 09:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (coldfire):
Well, it kinda depends on what kind of rock, then. Doesn't it? :-)

Hint: try searching on Google for "Permeability rock water" :-)
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 15 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 08-Mar-2003 11:41 GMT
I think amiga could be doing things the hard way, attempting to find rices for printing, packaging and mailing in different countres

Just print the things in the US, whack a low customs value on them, shove them through http://www.atspring.com and you are done.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 16 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Robert on 08-Mar-2003 13:44 GMT
I payed $50 for OS4. The last I saw I can not get OS4 yet.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 17 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 08-Mar-2003 16:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Robert):
@Forematt

Does this include getting a rebate for the remainder of my magazine sub?

I feel really cheated about the magazine, theres VERY little content. it takes me 5 mins to "read" it.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 18 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 22:42 GMT
What wouldn't people do to sell a few more copies.... tsk tsk tsk

/me shakes his head
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 19 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 22:43 GMT
100%AMIGA Issue 35: How to sell your grandmother and make a few quick bucks!!
Reserve your copy today!!!!!!
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 20 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anbjorn Myren on 09-Mar-2003 03:21 GMT
I payed 50$ as well. And I knew that there was no guarantie to get anything back. Almost like investing in the stock market a year ago, its not worth anything today unless a miracle apears.
As for me, I still live in hope and think OS4 will happen, even if it takes "a bit longer" than announced. When it happens, for me it will be worth more than the 50$, so I dont worry so much. And if I lose the money it wont be the end of world anyway.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 21 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 03:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anbjorn Myren):
> I payed 50$ as well. And I knew that there was no guarantie to get anything
> back. Almost like investing in the stock market [...]

With the small difference that when you invest/gamble, you do it with a chance to *gain* something.

You *prepaid* for something, without a guarantee to even get what you ordered (and beyond the corporate fanclub idiocy and the promised t-shirt, you didn't even specify what you were pre-paying for).

So we should start comparing purchases (paying for goods) with wasting money on the dotcom stock market now?

> [AmigaOS4] When it happens, for me it will be worth more than the 50$

What the hell does that have to do with you willingly borrowing a company fifty bucks?
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 22 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Me on 09-Mar-2003 08:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
100%AMIGA Issue 36: How to advertise you magazines/products for free!! We tell you how. Reserve your copy today!!!!!!
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 23 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 09-Mar-2003 09:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Me):
Is that the one after "how to breath air"? That better come out soon or I'll
be real stuck.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 24 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 11:46 GMT
Visit www.Amigaworld.net and find the low life bunch of scum in the Amiga community worshipping this coupon joke and telling people how to get your mouth ready when you suck off Fleecy and McWeen.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 25 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Anonymous):
Morning Colin, you're up early this Sunday.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 26 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anbjorn Myren):
You'll have noticed by now that those who complain about the coupons/t-shirts are for the vaste majority those who DID NOT join the Amiga club.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 27 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
>With the small difference that when you invest/gamble, you do it with
>a chance to *gain* something.

And rightly so, it applies to his case. T-shirts will be out and coupons will be honored. AmigaOS4 is not ready yet in case you haven't noticed.

>What the hell does that have to do with you willingly borrowing
>a company fifty bucks?

That's *lending*, if you want to throw accusations at least get the english right. In any case is not a loan, it's a membership to a club.
100%AMIGA CD Magazine Issue 34 – Out now! : Comment 28 of 28ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 09-Mar-2003 17:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
>You'll have noticed by now that those who complain about the coupons/t-shirts are for the vaste majority those who DID NOT join the Amiga club.

That's true but I think it's because those people never bought into the coupon crap in the first place and therefore never ordered it. Now they are in a "I told you so" mood and that's why a lot of them are making more noise.

For me personally the partypack offer which I aquired was enough to prove me not to trust AI's ability to handle any such thing in the future either.
So far the coupon scheme seems to be in trouble in a similar way as the partypack offer did and it's been a heck longer of the partypack than of the coupon scheme. My advice is don't hold your breath for it.

It's probably because of the neverending loyality and apologism of the remaining community why amino chose the amiga market for their playground instead of any other market. They would'nt get thru a day in the outside world if handling business the way they have handled in amiga market.
Ppl would'nt just tolerate it this long.
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