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Posted on 07-Mar-2003 20:32 GMT by Amoon98 comments
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I just got the word of a great new Amiga portal. AmigaWorld.net is a website similar to Amiga.org sans the flaming. Yes I said without the flaming, is this still possible within the Amiga community?! That would be fab don't you think so? :)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 1 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 19:36 GMT
No, those bastards what run Amigaworld.net are so pro Amiga, nobody wants a site which is runned by Amiga worshippers who ban anyone that says anything negative against Amiga companies.

If you want to speak your mind go elsewhere, if you want to praise and worship Amiga and its companies goto Amigaworshipworld.net
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 2 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Paul on 07-Mar-2003 19:49 GMT
I see it looks just as bad as amiga.org!!!

What's with these overloaded webpages? ANN (and even Slashdot) is far more readable.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 3 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 19:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Cool so what your saying is that any comment on any Amiga site should be all Anti Amiga.inc.

Thats the whole point of amiga sites, that is to knock Amiga.inc ^ partners as much as you can all the time about the same things some of them years ols again & again & again.

Cool time well spent.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 4 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 19:57 GMT
Do they have warez after all?

On aorg there is only legal crap *sigh* .. where have all the warez boards gone?

no, just kidding ;)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 5 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 07-Mar-2003 20:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Yes opinion sites (IE Forums), are for posting opinions, it's generally pretty dull if all users have the same opinion.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 6 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 20:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (MIKE):
good at least you see that having some who are not knocking Amiga.inc all the time as a good thing cos it would get boring if we all had the same Anti Amiga.inc opinion.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 7 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by szutoman on 07-Mar-2003 21:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
I think it is an awesome site with fresh attiudes that help, not harm, the Amiga community as a whole.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 8 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 07-Mar-2003 21:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Of course, ANN wouldn't be complete without a daft post by Colin
these days.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 9 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 07-Mar-2003 21:43 GMT
No flaming??? Where's the fun in that?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 10 of 98ANN.lu
Message removed by CK for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Profanity
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 11 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by randy@amiga.com on 07-Mar-2003 22:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Colin):
Thats nice, Colin... there there... Ritalin, son... Ritalin.

Moderators? Anyone? anyone at all?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 12 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 22:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Colin):
Colin. I'm going to insult you very clearly so as you understand.

You

are

an

idiot

Exactly what do you know about the ppl who run Amigaworld? From your post, I'd say exactly nothing.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 13 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Fly^ on 07-Mar-2003 22:42 GMT
These sound like the words of a troll that got banned for doing something bad.

#amigaworld on undernet is a kick ass channel and Davey puts a lot of work into creating a place for Amiga users (yes that’s you and I) to hang out. It’s an IRC channel for Gods sake! What’s with all the negativity? Some people need to seriously grow up in this place! Ya BIG woofter!

Regards
Fly^ #amigaone IRC http://amigaone-irc.net
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 14 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 07-Mar-2003 22:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Colin):
I think it is safe to say "Colin, go away nobody likes you."
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 15 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 07-Mar-2003 23:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Fly^):
I think someone summed it up quite well when they said "actions speak louder than words."
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 16 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 23:14 GMT
It's the anit-MorphZone.org.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 17 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 07-Mar-2003 23:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
what is "anit"?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 18 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Mar-2003 23:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Paul):
Quote: Posted by Paul (212.126.142.98) on 07-Mar-2003 20:49:25

"I see it looks just as bad as amiga.org!!!
What's with these overloaded webpages? ANN (and even Slashdot) is far more readable."



Time you stopped using that 14.4k modem
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 19 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Mar-2003 00:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Colin):
Oh, shut up. The fact that you hate certain people (I do happen to hate a
person you mentioned as well) does not mean that you can run around swearing
and attacking. Just shut up.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 20 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Martin C on 08-Mar-2003 00:25 GMT
The IP address of this Colin person is from different NTL proxy servers which is really annoying me now as i use NTL and now we are all tarred with the same brush just because one child has to act foolish.

Colin i hope your proud of yourself :-(
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 21 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 00:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Colin):
Same thing worth saying for you, but you suck Buck
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 22 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 00:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Colin):
Morons like you are the reason why Amiga (YES, AMIGA!) users want a different place where they can exchange ideas and discuss topics in peace.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 23 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by SittinInSidelines on 08-Mar-2003 01:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Fly^):
Fly^ Wrote:

"#<amigaworld on undernet is a kick ass channel and Davey puts a lot of work into creating a place for Amiga users (yes that’s you and I) to hang out>."

While that may be true, ever ask yourself how he got that channel to be so popular? (midely popular) Well he basically done what Genesi Buck bregade our doing at Amiga.org/ann.lu, poaching from the True Amiga users. We have BBRV slouching around drumming up support and running down the true OS in any way he can, then we have #Amigaworld coming and basically stealing the remaining true amiga/friends to his pit from the better Channel, along with his linux friends "you know the other channel i mean and i havent been to a better channel since". Well done on that, glad to see it never paid out in the end.

We the users never used to argued so much on ann as we have had in the past couple years. personally i blame alot of the companys invloved.
We have bill .inc the quiet man that cant make its mind up what they doing, then we have mr BB of geney who comes along and flames whenever he can, other companys bickering out in public forums and making asses of themselves, then we have trolls who dont see to care anything amiga, there just helping the downfall - a downfull as a community. Lets not break that up over over 2 companys with opposite visions in whats is right by the Amiga name, we our whats Amiga, not them, they both wouldnt be here if it wasnt for us.



Farewell
-back to my sidelines
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 24 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by unclecurio on 08-Mar-2003 02:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (SittinInSidelines):
Sorry Sideliner but you're way off base. Davey runs a site as a hobby. He's an experienced web guy and enjoys what he does. I'm also sure he will not tolerate the petty taunts and accusations of partisan behaviour that have been directed at Wayne over on Amiga.org.

Please desist from attempting to personally align him with any of the perceived baddies of the amiga world and all that relates to it.

Regards
Unc
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 25 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 02:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (SittinInSidelines):
> blahblahblah poaching from the True Amiga users.

You're frigging insane.

Damn this cult! Damn it to hell, together with the social rejects, seclusive idiots and meaningless-trademark-worshippers/haters that infest it and are leftovers from what once was a community!
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 26 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 08-Mar-2003 02:45 GMT
A place where people live without dissent(free will/ability to form an opinion)

well if that sounds appealing to you....go for it, you and your girlfriends have fun playing tea.

Personally, I will be glad to see the mindless amiga worshippers go, you won't find a lot of hard core coders at a nancy boy fluff site like amigaworld.net...and that, is why its just not what 'Amiga' is about, anyone who has been around for a while knows the amiga was about 'creativity'...and that means 'people who create'...people with 'ideas'...and 'opinions'...people with strong personalities don't mind other people with strong personalities...its not offensive at all.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 27 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 08-Mar-2003 03:25 GMT
Free form flaming also means free from opinions so it appears. Only one opinion is tolerated. Even morphzone, which is clearly marked as a MorphOS related site, tolrates other opinions so long as they tolerate back. What the moderators there seem to classify as flaming would include any professional analysis of the actions of Amiga, Inc, or any discussion of the other viewpoints availible, be they from Amithlon, AROS or MorphOS.

Since when has the Amiga been a religion? It's just a computer guys.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 28 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 08-Mar-2003 03:32 GMT
Amiga.org and amigaworld are not bad after all. I find them decent portals even though I don't allways agree with many posts. I love ANN but it is not the place for constructive criticism these days; too much noise.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 29 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 03:54 GMT
The Church Of Amiga, the Insane Asylum of all true believers has opened its gates. Come one come all. Stay a while, stay forever! muhahahahaha SCNR
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 30 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by strobe on 08-Mar-2003 04:43 GMT
This site is great! It's a HUGE resource of unintended humor!

For example check out this thread (I had to check the date to make sure it wasn't started in 2001):

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=68&forum=3&20

Yea, what we need is more optimism! Products are over-rated. Happy happy joy joy...

The hubris is so thick it's laughable. I think I'll pass.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 31 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 08-Mar-2003 08:10 GMT
@MarkTime, Strobe

Doesn't it make you think about yourselves that you are repulsed from any site
which has a "no flaming" policy?

I don't concur with your descriptions of AmigaWorld.net at all, if I had
described MorphOS-News.de and MorphZone in such terms ( they run a similar ship ) I would have you jumping down my throats.

Thing is you, especially strobe, thrive on conflict. Nothing wrong with that, but not everyone wants to indulge 24x7.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 32 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 08:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (strobe):
There are comments that are negative of amiga.inc & delays of Aone/Aos4/T-Shirts..ect... but all with reason & not a flame is site.

No need to insult ppl or call names to ppl or firms.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 33 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 08-Mar-2003 09:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Anonymous):
>There are comments that are negative of amiga.inc & delays of Aone/Aos4/T-
>Shirts..ect... but all with reason & not a flame is site.

I'm not into flaming, and I wish AmigaWorld well - it looks like a lot of good effort went into it. And I do think it is quite okay they want to concentrate on other things than MorphOS - I find that a subset of what is "Amiga" (they do still cover AROS funnily), but nothing wrong with covering only a subset.

However, I do think the negativity expressed by many of the what I'd call very pro-Amiga people there is no where near within reason. It is quite overly optimistic. The fact that even the most die-hard of people must acknowledge negative things is only testament to how low Amiga Inc. has sunk.

Regular people looking at Amiga Inc. and its actions with objectivity would and do make a much harsher judgement. Many of those roam these parts too in my opinion. Amiga Inc. over the last three years has been a real disgrace and is hurting the Amiga name and Amiga community a lot. Those people don't like places where they are not allowed to make this very reasonable observation.

ANN and Amiga.org may have their weak moments and there is too much trolling for sure, but at least that honesty is here. People are allowed to state the obvious. And I do appreciate Wayne and Christian for allowing the free flow of thought. Thanks guys.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 34 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 08-Mar-2003 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (strobe):
So basically what you're saying is that the way to save the computer we all love (we ALL love the amiga, right? Otherwise we wouldn't be spending ALL our day posting about *cough* Mac's on ANN/Amiga.org would we? Ok, so I know that A in ANN no longer stands for Amiga, but it sure as hell doesn't stand for Apple, right?) is to have LESS optimism? The more gloomy everyone feels about the Amiga coming back, the BETTER, yes? No? Well, since you're so keen on telling people how NOT to do it, maybe you for ONCE should try to tells us excactly what we SHOULD do. But you don't really have an opinion, do you? You're just here to troll?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 35 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 08-Mar-2003 09:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Ole-Egil):
>The more gloomy everyone feels about the Amiga coming back, the BETTER, yes?

Why not feel realistic for a change. We've felt overly optimistic for ten years. People are calling as they see it, and what they see is not pretty. Should we just ignore all that and be all happy-happy-joy-joy?

No wonder they are giving newcomers like Genesi a good look and a chance. You can feel the energy at MorphOS sites, which stems from the simple fact that people actually have their new PowerPC operating systems and are doing things.

As for the Amiga? Well, it's a disgrace really. When OS4 arrives there will be stuff to talk about and probably a lot of (too much?) forgiving too. Until then I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to jump up and down with joy about the official path...

IMHO.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 36 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by strobe on 08-Mar-2003 09:54 GMT
More optimism, less optimism, it doesn't make a difference. Do you think the Mac or Windows market has survived due to optimism? It's not a religion, it's supposed to be a WIDGET!

I call it as I see it. These people couldn't find fault in anything the Amiga partners do, have done, or will ever do. They feed off nibbles of information released by these companies without any scrutiny. I honestly feel sorry for people who buy half a product based on the promise that it will one day become a complete product...of what they don't even know.

What SHOULD you do? Stop sticking your head in the sand and stop the self-flaggelation. My opinion of course, do what you will but don't mind me pointing and laughing in utter contempt.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 37 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 08-Mar-2003 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (strobe):
Really? Then I challenge you to get hold of the user list of AmigaWorld.net and
go back through every post each and every one has made that fits your description of them not finding fault with Amiga Inc against the truth of the matter. When you get to me I can help you find 47 ( at the last count ) posts
that I have made criticising Amiga Inc on Amiga.org and I lost count on ANN.

I think *you* are the one sticking his head in the sand, at least pandering to stereotypes that some are trying to build about AmigaWorld.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 38 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 12:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
I'm not surprised there is new site like that. People like you who shout on every fucking page that amigaone etc sucks, are the reason pages like that are made. Some of us are sick of that stupid war. And if there is no other way to get peaceful site then then MOS guys should be banned.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 39 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 13:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Nate Downes):
>Even morphzone, which is clearly marked as a MorphOS related site,
>tolrates other opinions so long as they tolerate back.

I totally disagree. Something was posted a while ago that I rebated with *facts* as being yet another Buck lie. It was regarding the private phone numbers story, Buck said that he was challenged to find those numbers, I quoted the messages from ANN that proved that no challenge was offered and Buck's actions were totally arbitrary. The post was removed overnight. That site is worth trash to me.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 40 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 13:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (strobe):
>The hubris is so thick it's laughable. I think I'll pass.

Good, they probably don't want people like you
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 41 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Skyraker on 08-Mar-2003 15:42 GMT
I've tried posting this, but my browser is off on one at the moment....

anyway, remember BBRV telling us how his g3 peg is faster than the eyetech G4 machine.... well Sibbi sent me this link to a benchmark test done independently on 3 machines.. a peg g3 / a1g3@ 600 / a1g3@700 / a1g4@800....

.. guess what, the a1g3@600 beats the peg.. and the g4 a1 is twice as fast.. go osee for yourselves...

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/pekosbil/a1benchmarks.htm

btw can someone move this post to where it belongs?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 42 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 08-Mar-2003 15:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Skyraker):
Where would that be?

Amiga.org?

;)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 43 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Bullocks to you on 08-Mar-2003 16:08 GMT
A N N is shit anyways never did like it here
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 44 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Jope on 08-Mar-2003 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Bullocks to you):
.. so don't come here, dum-dum!
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 45 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Janne Sirén):
"ANN and Amiga.org may have their weak moments and there is too much trolling for sure, but at least that honesty is here. People are allowed to state the obvious. And I do appreciate Wayne and Christian for allowing the free flow of thought. Thanks guys."

Not totally true. Wayne has made it very clear lately that "As long as you are in his house, do not insult his guest." And that was referring to Elbox when they became an advertiser. Just recently a thread that looked bad for Genesi and Bill Buck was "locked by request" so nobody else could post (although I admit that I never heard who requested that). Then just a few days later they move to a new server and Genesi becomes a sponsor. Sounds to me like Genesi has the reigns now. I would look for a name change there soon.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 46 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 20:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Anonymous):
Pah! type server.mophzone.org and see what comes up.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 47 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 21:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Anonymous):
http://server.morphzone.org/

:)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 48 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 08-Mar-2003 22:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Anonymous):
That's BS. I made plenty of posts criticising Elbox on amiga.org, and no one bothered to censor me or have my posts removed. Wayne didn't even complain about it.

The accusation that Wayne has "sold out" is complete and total crap. If your theory was correct why then wasn't Wayne's site a complete Amiga Inc shrine all the time it was hosted on their servers?

Answer: because it stays objective and impartial, which many of the people on AmigaWorld.net find objectionable.

I think it was DaveP who said it was like MorphOS-News and MorphZone, and I guess it is. I don't bother reading them and I won't bother reading this site either.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 49 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 22:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Bill Hoggett):
Objctive and impartial! LMAOLOL!!!!!!!!

Thank, I needed it.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 50 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Mar-2003 23:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Bill Hoggett):
Oh when Alkemyst posted http://server.morphzone.org/ on a thread at A.org
it got deleted.
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