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Posted on 07-Mar-2003 20:32 GMT by Amoon98 comments
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I just got the word of a great new Amiga portal. AmigaWorld.net is a website similar to Amiga.org sans the flaming. Yes I said without the flaming, is this still possible within the Amiga community?! That would be fab don't you think so? :)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 51 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by TBone on 09-Mar-2003 00:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Anonymous):
it was flamebait
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 52 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 09-Mar-2003 00:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Anonymous):
That depends on what it was saying, doesn't it?

No secret was made about MorphZone.org being run by people involved with Amiga.org too (namely Targhan). Since both Targhan and Wayne live in the same US state it would make economic and administrative sense if the same server was used for both domains.

This does not mean the server is owned by Genesi nor does it mean that Amiga.org has become a MorphOS site.

I suspect that like you, Alkemyst tried to tie in all sorts of implications into two domains sharing the same server.

As for impartiality and objectivity, I'll take the Wayne Hunt variety over the Mike Bouma variety any day of the week.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 53 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 00:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Bill Hoggett):
""""I suspect that like you, Alkemyst tried to tie in all sorts of implications into two domains sharing the same server."""

I said nothing at all. i just posted the link.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 54 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 09-Mar-2003 00:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Anonymous):
...yes, of course...
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 55 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 00:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Bill Hoggett):
"""As for impartiality and objectivity, I'll take the Wayne Hunt variety over the Mike Bouma variety any day of the week."""

I take each post as i find it as even a lier may tell the truth at times.

MikeB is Pro AmigaOS/Aone

He has admitted it many times.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 56 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga.org Fan on 09-Mar-2003 01:00 GMT
Alkemyst is just another recruit of Mike Bourna, ignore Alkemyst FFS and let the Amiga pro wankers enjoy their little sad lifes wanking over a dead machine in their own little wacky world.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 57 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 01:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Amiga.org Fan):
Yup, and they are working with Fleecy to shut down Amiga.org and make Amigaworld.net their flagship community site.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 58 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 01:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Amiga.org Fan):
Amiga.org Fan is just another recruit of BillBuck,ignore Amiga.org Fan FFS and let the MOS pro wankers enjoy their little sad lifes wanking over a dead machine in their own little wacky world.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 59 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 01:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (Anonymous):
Yup, and they are working with BillBuck to turn Amiga.org and make Amiga.org their flagship MOS site.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 60 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Turrican on 09-Mar-2003 02:02 GMT
@amigaworld.net owners

Nice web-site, Wrong domain-name!

You should call it amigaincworld.net instead!

By the definition of "AmigaWorld", it should include anything in the known Amiga zone (Classic Amiga, Pegasos/MOS, AROS, AmigaOne/AOS)...

Amiga != Amiga Inc.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 61 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 03:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Turrican):
LOL it does include all of that you know.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 62 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 03:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Turrican):
you can talk about Classic Amiga, Pegasos/MOS, AROS, AmigaOne/AOS)... on AmigaWorld.

looks like you aint been there yet or you would see thew game that is out for MOS only atm as News on AW
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 63 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 03:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Anonymous):
Saw it and the three flame comments about it.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 64 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga.org Fan on 09-Mar-2003 05:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Anonymous):
Alkemyst you sad bastard, hiding behind Anonymous you jerk off, get back to amigaworld and worship some more and hopefully one day you will die a sad life and have AMIGA on your head stone.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 65 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Targhan on 09-Mar-2003 07:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Anonymous):
<i>It has all of that</i>

So I see, even the first news item is a news item for a game on
MorphOS. What's the definition of this? Hypocrite? Why yes, I
believe it is.. Come to AmigaWorld.net, and get away from MorphOS!
<b>NOT!</b> Looks to me like it's a thinly veiled guise to attract
visitors.

AmigaWorld.net guys: your site looks really, really, nice. You don't
need to do this sort of thing. If you continually run a class-act,
people will make a home there without the scare tactics. If you do
continue to use scare-tactics, people will eventually get bored.

Targhan---OUT!
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 66 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 09-Mar-2003 07:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Targhan):
Like C-time put it on Moobunny.. http://flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/83709.shtml

"I think amigaworld.net was/is needed for those who take offense at reality and at others not-taking offense at it... it's a good place for them to go because MikeB and others are admins and they can supress all that scary 'reality' stuff away."

I have to say I agree. That site is for remmebrance of old glorious days. Who cares if history has to be rewritten in a way right people look Heroic in their efforts and all failures are just minor incidents caused by evil outsiders. :)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 67 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 08:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Anonymous):
Yes you can talk about anything.. See this new thread for example.
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=275
(I have seen 5 comments in it thile posting this)

And that _steve_ is Admin there.

Funniest thing in their comments are that they are making jokes of recent Mos game ports cause they are based to old games (true) and uncomparable to current PC versions (most likely true) while totally ignoring couple more important issues..

A) There are no OS4 yet.
B) There are NO games for OS4 at all, nor there will be anytime soon.
C) Neither of these new systems (Mos and Os4)aren't anytime soon reach user base for making totally *NEW* and up-to-date game.

But apparently these small real world realities does not bother them at all. Nor the fact that their greatest heroes (Hyperion) has done this exactly same thing all the time, porting 5-year old games. :)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 68 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 09-Mar-2003 08:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Anonymous):
Really they are making jokes about it?

First comment, by me, I don't have MorphOS but I did hear ( on ANN ) there was a PC version so I said I'd try that.

Comment two, by Steve, ah I guess most of the new games for MorphOS are going to be PC ports why should this be any different

Comment three, by me, must have meant Mac ( I can't find a Windows version ) so I'll try that.

Comment four, by the anonymous above I suspect, "if you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all"

Comment five, by me, eh what????

Paraphrased but don't you think you might be blinded by your own prejudice?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 69 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 09-Mar-2003 08:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (DaveP):
Well.. Sounds like you could have a job on AmigaInc's information recreation department. They'll need someone like you to clean up all that mess they have caused during these years. :)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 70 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 09-Mar-2003 08:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (JoannaK):
I'll leave that job to the starry eyed ;-)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 71 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 09:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Anonymous):
Wrong.

SiN
Heretic2
Shogo

seeing as many of us cant play them on our 68k amigas Aone/Aos4 will.

Freespace
Q2

will work on 68k & PPC

But most will wait untikll they have Aone/Aos4 before buying.

Hyperion said that they will rework the game to take advantage of Aos4& Aone.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 72 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Mar-2003 11:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (Turrican):
The name is right, AROS, AmigaOne, Amithlon are valid topics. Morphos is not Amiga, just a Goaul'd
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 73 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Helgis75 on 09-Mar-2003 18:29 GMT
I like AmigaWorld, it is the only site where i can worship and defend all Amiga companies and even turn a blind eye to stuff you to tell everyone how much we will die for the Amiga.

Amiga Forever.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 74 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 09-Mar-2003 18:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Helgis75):
When you grow up you should become a comedian.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 75 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 10-Mar-2003 01:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Anonymous):
Wouldn't it take the cake is Amiga.org got their site name yanked.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 76 of 98ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 75 (Anonymous):
Message removed by CK for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Profanity
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 77 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 10-Mar-2003 02:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Fly^):
So, Fly, you're saying that I, a MOS-user, are welcome on #amigaworld when the web-channel would ban me as a troll for even saying hello?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 78 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 10-Mar-2003 02:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
An empty web page? What am I supposed to see?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 79 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 10-Mar-2003 02:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Anonymous):
Would require a lawsuit to do so, and how would that look for Amiga, Inc to sue Wayne for running a website promoting their product.

Might I point out this section on the ICANN website regarding having a domain name yanked:

All registrars in the .aero, .biz, .com, .coop, .info, .museum, .name, .net, and .org top-level domains follow the Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy (often referred to as the "UDRP"). Under the policy, most types of trademark-based domain-name disputes must be resolved by agreement, court action, or arbitration before a registrar will cancel, suspend, or transfer a domain name.

You can find this on: http://www.icann.org/udrp/
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 80 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 10-Mar-2003 02:57 GMT
AmigaWorld is just a Amiga Inc cheerleader site, you know the scum i am talking about, if not see the below quotes.

I love you Amiga
Amiga rules windows sucks
I hate anyone who calls Amiga
Amiga inc tells no lies
Elbox did what they had to
Your a morphos user if you say anything negative about Amiga
Bill Mcween does his best for the Amiga community
The $50 coupon is a great idea

I could cut n paste all day but above is enough the show the shower of ignorant shite on AmigaWorshipWorld.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 81 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 10-Mar-2003 03:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (DaveP):
>>Doesn't it make you think about yourselves that you are repulsed from any site
>>which has a "no flaming" policy?

I understand the code words for intolerance, in it's various guises.

You don't think they're intolerant? Well, hey I can't even get an account on Amigaworld.net, so of course I think they are intolerant! LOL< they are afraid of little ol' me.....

Of course, I could fake an IP address and my name and set up an e-mail, blah blah blah, but I'll respect their wishes and not attempt to get an account. I have my hands full with ann.lu and amiga.org already...I have thought often to even cut one of them out....but I will stay with two sites, for now.

Let the best site win! Quite frankly, I think it will be one of the open sites in a run-a-way.......

And, I agree with those who say amigaworld.net is splitting the community even further...even if they weren't doing exactly that, literally, by bouncing out half the community, it would be unlikely everyone would go to a new site, anyway....this is just a start over again....with less people...
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 82 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 10-Mar-2003 07:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (MarkTime):
They won't let you have an account? Jeees. Well hey, I posted what I did
in good faith. If intolerance and bigotry does seep in at AmigaWorld expect
me to condemn it as much as the next person.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 83 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 10-Mar-2003 07:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Anonymous):
"I love you Amiga
Amiga rules windows sucks
I hate anyone who calls Amiga
Amiga inc tells no lies
Elbox did what they had to
Your a morphos user if you say anything negative about Amiga
Bill Mcween does his best for the Amiga community
The $50 coupon is a great idea "

Well thats fun, I found none of these when I did a search on the site. Surely
spreading easily black propaganda isn't the best way to get your agenda across.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 84 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 10-Mar-2003 08:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (Anonymous):
the funny thing is i would get more extreme 'quotes' if i went through the news here and on amiga.org, its just some people are fed up with all the useless fights which are started from both sides.

why fix something that cant be fixed ?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 85 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 10-Mar-2003 10:36 GMT
I think AmigaWorld.net seems wery nice site, and threads like this here proves that we really need new fresh Amiga site where ONLY people who DON'T like flame wars are welcome.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 86 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Atheist2 on 10-Mar-2003 11:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Anonymous):
Don't forget Amiga Forever by Cloanto.

AmigaOne! comes after Forever!
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 87 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by a on 10-Mar-2003 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (MarkTime):
Nobody has been banned from Amiga.net (yet). Don't spread this nonesense, if you have troubles contact with logging into the website, do the obvious: Contact the webmaster.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 88 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 10-Mar-2003 19:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (a):
for the record,

I have some severe criticism about amigaworld.net, but its more about content and attitude then the actually signing up process. The signing up process is in line with their closed thinking...but I didn't mean to start off on this tangent, though I can admit, I did stear the comments down this tangent. so I will clarify.

I signed up...it wouldn't let me log in that day. I never received any e-mail about signing up. I still can't sign in today. I'm not planning to do any research on this, I have no intention of firing off e-mails to webmasters...its just not that important to me. I am perfectly happy with ann.lu and amiga.org, as a matter of fact, I sometimes think that I should cut down to only one site, instead of two. I have no intention of being a regular on 3 amiga websites.

So, whether or not I could have ultimately obtained an account, I do not know, and may never know. Just for kicks I attempted to log in again, and my nickname is still not active...that was the last attempt...I'm done.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 89 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 10-Mar-2003 21:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (MarkTime):
lol !

if it was any other site, you would bother.

just because you cant type your email addy in correctly you blame them ?
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 90 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 10-Mar-2003 22:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (MarkTime):
@MarkTime

I'm not trying to be protective of amigaworld or anything, but don't you think
there might be some more probable reason for your account not working, other
than that "the webnmasters don't want me there"? Like a technical problem? Like
you writing in your e-mail incorrectly?

Then again, if you were correct, I agree it would be a bloody scandal. It's just
that my answer-e-mail arrived within seconds of me registering - and even if it
hadn't been so, I just sinmply can not imagine someone at amigaworld taking the
time to sit and check every new [imaginary] *nickname* to identify people they
might not like...
Can you? I mean - really?
.
SlimJim
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 91 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 11-Mar-2003 14:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (SlimJim):
@SlimJim

>>I just sinmply can not imagine someone at amigaworld taking the
>>time to sit and check every new [imaginary] *nickname* to
>>identify people they might not like...

Absolutely, I can imagine it. It's funny and a bit sad too.
Don't forget this is a tiny community, and everyone knows everyone.
I'm not going to suggest that they won't do this, because I clearly believe
they are IN fact capable of doing it.

You live too much in a technical world, perhaps....because this isn't about
doing traces and tracking minute details down...this is a small community
everyone knows everyone else...

They talk like bigots, so they are bigots. Thats the simple point I am coming from.

It isn't about these complex conspiracy theories....

If you must talk technical, then as a person who has done a lot of development,
let me say this...sometimes a user can forget their own name, or their e-mail
address, or their password.

You could attack that person and tell them its all their fault. Or you can
build into the system, some method for handling such an event, such that you
don't lose another customer.

This is a ridiculous side issue...as I said in my 2nd clarification and now in
my 3rd, I have no intention of trying to force a resolution, there isn't any
thing much to resolve....I am not trying to get access to the site, so my
lack of access doesn't represent an issue. I brought it up in passing...shouldn't have...ok?

We can talk about the real issues later...for now you win, look at me, I'm frosting at the mouth loon....wooo hooo ooooh....hehe :-) :-)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 92 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 11-Mar-2003 20:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (strobe):
> I honestly feel sorry for people who buy half a product based on the
> promise that it will one day become a complete product...of what they
> don't even know.

Oh please, oh wise one, please tell me something about the Q-BOX? After all, that's the REAL MorphOS isn't it?

But no... all we hear about and all MorphOS trades on is the A-BOX (the Amiga EMULATION LAYER). And yet the MorphOS zealots worship this "product based on a promise that it will one day become a complete product"...

Psst... anyone seen the Q-BOX? ;-)

No? Oh well... don't mind me laughing and pointing at those who've embraced an OS who's only clearly defined goal is to replace what it is now (i.e. the A-BOX) with something else (i.e. the Q-BOX) - whatever the hell that is. But hey, it's not like anyone really knows... seeing as morphos.de only ever seems to mention the Q-BOX (it's ultimate goal) in passing as it waffles on and on and on about the A-BOX and how to program it ;-)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 93 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 11-Mar-2003 20:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (SittinInSidelines):
It may come as a suprise to you but Amiga.org does not have an exclusive right to Amiga users ;-) NO ONE DOES!

In fact, I'm sure Wayne would agree that it is this kind of opinion that 'causes a lot of problems in the Amiga community. (Amiga Web Directory anybody?).

AmigaWorld has been around for a good year or two. In fact, they started their IRC channel well BEFORE Amiga.org started their's. But hey... don't let that fact get in the way of your misguided AmigaWorld bashing ;-)

What I say is this: If someone is willing to spend hours of their OWN TIME sweating over a site intended for the benefit of the Amiga community, support them and don't let your petty bias reduce the Amiga community to one single website - for when that happens... you know the community is close to death.

Long live Amiga.org, ANN, Czech Amiga News, Amiga-News, AmigaRT (what is that? Real Time?), AmigaWorld.net, etc. etc. etc. etc.

I may not like them all... but long may they continue...
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 94 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by SiTH on 12-Mar-2003 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (MarkTime):
Their registration system is working again, i signed up today.
For me, it`s not like people are sticking their heads in the sand. If you are interested in what Frieden brothers or anyone else working on AmigaOS have to say, then it`s far more likely to meet them there at AmigaWorld.net than here. Is it because of blind worshippers? Not really, i suppose it`s because the chance of being insulted by some immature idiot is lower. :)
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 95 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Fly^ on 12-Mar-2003 20:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Nate Downes):
ER!!! Did I say this?

No I think your either making that up or putting words in my mouth!
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 96 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Mar-2003 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Amiga.org Fan):
Oh, shut the fuck up.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 97 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-Mar-2003 12:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (Anonymous):
If you consider AROS an Amiga related OS, you are obliged to include MOS in that
category, MorphOS got LOT'S of AROS code, fixed it, used it and contributed it
back in the AROS CVS repository.
AmigaWorld.net : Comment 98 of 98ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 14-Mar-2003 14:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (MarkTime):
>closed thinking...

Closed thinking? How is that different from Morphos.de or whatever it's called where AmigaOS posts are banned or deleted? Where you can't say a word against Buck (backed with evidence) that it gets deleted right away? You're just another hypocrite.
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