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Posted on 28-Mar-2003 12:40 GMT by EK53 comments
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According to Bill Buck & Raquel Velasco here, the "first [new] units [of Pegasos] have shipped". More will be shipped next week.
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Posted by John on 28-Mar-2003 11:45 GMT
About time.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 2 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 28-Mar-2003 11:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (John):
Mai, mai, mai ... Have you gotten your yet?
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 3 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 28-Mar-2003 12:05 GMT
Great... soon we'll see the better than A1G4XE performance... :P
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 4 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by minator on 28-Mar-2003 12:33 GMT
What, like these?

http://www.blachford.info/morphos/Pics/PegasosA2.jpg
http://www.blachford.info/morphos/Pics/MorphOS1.jpg
http://www.blachford.info/morphos/Pics/MorphOS2.jpg
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 5 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Senex on 28-Mar-2003 12:54 GMT
At least Computer City confirmed their arrival a few minutes ago on IRC - so I suppose the other dealers (Vesalia, KDH, etc.) got theirs today as well.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 6 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 28-Mar-2003 13:03 GMT
Elite, have a nice time with them all new owners =P
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Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 28-Mar-2003 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (minator):
Is that how they are shipped?
Not even in a anti static bag?, i would guess the RMA procedure is all well and setup :-)

but comeon. do they only ship in bulk volume?.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 8 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 28-Mar-2003 13:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Lasse Bodilsen):
I'm not sure, but this might be the box of returned (April-free) boards at the Aachen show last year.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 9 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Mar-2003 14:14 GMT
APS (www.aps.fr) got the boards today too.
Configurations will ship start of upcoming week.
I think that the picture from Nicholas are brand new Pegasos/April2 boards.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 10 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Hooligan/DCS on 28-Mar-2003 14:47 GMT
Version 1.0 of MOS .. I thought we'd have like 1.2 or something :)
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 11 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 28-Mar-2003 14:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Hooligan/DCS):
1.3 since yesterday ......
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 12 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Mar-2003 15:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Kronos):
and still beta.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 13 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 28-Mar-2003 16:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
"and still beta."

If it helps you believe in that it not exists... But it won't go away.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 14 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Josť on 28-Mar-2003 16:43 GMT
Hey, someone correct the top left add, it should read single G3 board, not dual G3/G4 (or at least Dual G3?).

For people that claim others are liars for not commiting to a estimated (not established) timeline, that seems pretty lame. It's been known for some time the Pegasus will ONLY HAVE G3. Why is it I don't see any flames on this?!
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Posted by Emeric SH on 28-Mar-2003 16:52 GMT
Everyone is free to correct me, but AFAIK there will be G4 module for the Pegasos I, but no Pegasos I will be sold with G4. (as all Pegasos Is will be sold by the time the G4 module appears) A small but important difference. I might be wrong though.
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Posted by Hooligan/DCS on 28-Mar-2003 18:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Josť):
For people that claim others are liars for not commiting to a estimated (not established) timeline, that seems pretty lame. It's been known for some time the Pegasus will ONLY HAVE G3. Why is it I don't see any flames on this?!
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because people are dead tired of lame fights which have been done through thousand times before. ding ding.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 17 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Sam Smith on 28-Mar-2003 18:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Josť):
Because nobody cares?

:)

---
Sam
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Posted by Emeric SH on 28-Mar-2003 19:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Sam Smith):
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=11

Read for yourself.
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Posted by Kelly Samel on 28-Mar-2003 19:39 GMT
There are no complaints about this because
Genesi are offering a very good upgrade deal
to the dual G4 PegII when the time comes. It
will be cheaper to get a Peg1 and then
upgrade to a PegII (if you are interested)
than the original asking price of A1...
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 20 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Mar-2003 20:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Kelly Samel):
>to the dual G4 PegII when the time comes. It

Dual G4? That was something new... I must have missed that

>will be cheaper to get a Peg1 and then
>upgrade to a PegII (if you are interested)
>than the original asking price of A1...

The only difference is that you can get your G4 AOne now. The PegasosII has
yet to appear...
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Posted by Christophe Decanini on 28-Mar-2003 20:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
"The only difference is that you can get your G4 AOne now. The PegasosII has
yet to appear... "

I know several resellers who have Pegasos for sale NOW.
I still see the "where is my ordered Amigaone" and "when is OS4" threads on Amiga.org.
I wished that both of the platforms would have been ready and for sale in masse since the earlier 2003 but unfortunately it was not the case.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 22 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 28-Mar-2003 21:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Kelly Samel):
"There are no complaints about this because
Genesi are offering a very good upgrade deal
to the dual G4 PegII when the time comes."

Well.. I would be hardly surpriced is that annouced updrade deal would indeed include *dual* G4 system. I think it'll be single Cpu machine. But, as these things go, they are seen only when time comes.

At first I would like to get that Pegasos-1 I have ordered. Peg II is still many months away, so it'll better to concentrate to what is awailable now. (or ir couple days)
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 23 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Mar-2003 02:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
Now means now. When you mean "some time before 2004 if you're lucky" please write that. Eyetech promised delivery of A1 G4 motherboards by Christmas 2002. In January they said that it was absolutely ridiculous to suggest that the boards would be delayed as far as March.

Alan Redhouse says he's "hopeful" that some boards could be delivered in April to the paying customers who ordered in October/November. NEW customers who want to order NOW could still be waiting for weeks or months after boards do finally begin to trickle in.
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Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Christophe Decanini):
> I know several resellers who have Pegasos for sale NOW.

But the issue was about PegasosII rather than PegasosI, remember?

> I still see the "where is my ordered Amigaone" and "when is OS4" threads on
> Amiga.org.

Now that was pretty angled way of putting it, wasn't it? The point remeains, we won't see any PegasosII or any G4 version of the Pegasos for quite a while. Pointing at the flaws of the competition won't help YOUR cause.

> I wished that both of the platforms would have been ready and for sale in
> masse since the earlier 2003 but unfortunately it was not the case.

I'm sure the release of AmigaOS4 (whenever it will be) will greatly increase the demand for the AmigaOne and therefore make it possible for Eyetech to produce them in much larger quantities. =)
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Posted by Kronos on 29-Mar-2003 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (samface):
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
And now read what Christoph was replying to .....
Yes someone claiming that the A1-G4 would be available RIGHT NOW
which doesn't reflect the truth does it ?

So NO A1 are available atm, while the Pegasos with G3 is.

Eyetech can't satisfy the small demand for A1s right now, what makes you
think they could satisfy a bigger one (brzzzz brzzzz logic error) ?
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 26 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 10:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Kronos):
So, the non-availability of the AmigaOne makes the PegasosII more available? Try that thing about logic again...

Person A: There is no Apples available yet.

Person B: But I know people selling Pears while I've seen many people complaining about no Bananas beeing available.

Person C: Person A's point remains; there is no Apples yet.

Person D: Beeep! That was completely irrational of you, Person C.

Sigh...
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 27 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 29-Mar-2003 11:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (samface):
Did I write (or Christoph) write a single word about the PegII ?

We just corrected the statement that A1-G4s would be shipping right now.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 28 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Kronos):
From post #21:

>The PegasosII has
>yet to appear... "
>
>I know several resellers who have Pegasos for sale NOW.

Then I said in post #24: "But the issue was about PegasosII, remeber?"
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 29 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 29-Mar-2003 11:33 GMT
where are the dual g3 and dual g4 pegasos thats advertised on top of ann ?
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 30 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 29-Mar-2003 11:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Christophe Decanini):
>>The PegasosII has yet to appear... "

>I know several resellers who have Pegasos for sale NOW.

did you travel through time with a timemachine or what ? :)
its confusing reading posts from people-in-the-future...
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 31 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 11:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Kronos):
>Eyetech can't satisfy the small demand for A1s right now, what makes you
>think they could satisfy a bigger one (brzzzz brzzzz logic error) ?

high demand = beeing able to make orders for large quantities at a low cost per board.

low demand = only beeing able to make orders for small quantities at a high manufacturing cost per board.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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Posted by Power Ranger on 29-Mar-2003 13:16 GMT
The usual Eyetech fans, in Alan we trust.

Pegasos ships with a operating system (MorphOS) for the board, what does a rebadged Teron board called "AMIGAONE" ship with? certainly not AmigaOS unless you emulate it under Linux.

Eyetech are liars and the more people that defends liars the more you sound like sad obsessed fans.
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Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Power Ranger):
The topic is "Pegasos is shipping".

We were discussing the availability of the announced G4 Pegasos. Some people started to talk about the non-availability of the AmigaOne. I tried to get things back on topic; namely the pegasos. Now you come here talking about A1 defenders?

Again, pointing at the flaws of the competition doesn't make your side of things better. You should try explaining to me why I should wait until September (hopefully) in order to get a PegasosII rather than blatantly trolling about Eyetech's delays and personally attacking Alan Redhouse.
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Posted by itix on 29-Mar-2003 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (samface):
You are not making much sense. Original post was complaining about Pegasos advert on the top. Josť complained against KDH, not Genesi.
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Posted by Power Ranger on 29-Mar-2003 14:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (samface):
I see another clueless person trying to brand someone a Pegasos/MorphOs fan just because i know eyetech are a bunch of liars.

pathetic.
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Posted by cheesegrate on 29-Mar-2003 14:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (samface):
becaause the pegasos2 wit mos will be out :LONG b4 amiga one with os4
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 37 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 29-Mar-2003 14:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Power Ranger):
> The usual Eyetech fans, in Alan we trust.

Shouldn't it be Eyetech Fans, in Teron we trust?

> Pegasos ships with a operating system (MorphOS) for the board, what does a
> rebadged Teron board called "AMIGAONE" ship with? certainly not AmigaOS unless
> you emulate it under Linux.

It's interesting that the Faithful Followers of the Name Cult will buy a boing ball badge machine to run Linux. If I wanted to run Linux on a underpowered CPU, I would have just bought one of those VIA's $99 CPU/mobos. Guess it's the $400 Boing Ball sticker that gets the FFOTNC juices flowing. It's truely amazing to remember not too many years ago, most of these FFOTNC were frothing at the mouth when it was announced that Linux kernel was going to be used for AOS4. Now the idiots are paying $400 for a Boing Ball sticker to run Linux.

> Eyetech are liars and the more people that defends liars the more you sound
> like sad obsessed fans.

I think it's more of them trying to save face when they have been on ANN and others beating their chest and shouting on how great Teron mobos are and OS4 would be out the door before MOS. Now they have been completely embaressed by the lack of anything from Hyperion and Genesi is about to roll on to a second generation of Pegasus. Sad, it's all so sad.

Dammy
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Posted by cheesegrate on 29-Mar-2003 15:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (itix):
>You are not making much sense.
Samface and the other members of the amiga inc cult never make sense, their thoughts are driven by a irrational corporate worship that has absolutly nothing to do with reality.

Like medieval priests they see anyone who is not as insane as them as a heretic, an blood sworn enemy that must be burnt at the stake.. ;)
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 39 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 16:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (itix):
Huh? I mentioned neither KDH nor Genesi. The ad says "DUAL G3 / G4 ATX MAINBOARD" and Josť complained because there is no such thing available yet. That's also what I said; we talked about the availabilty of those advertised boards. Who said anything about KDH and Genesi? Not me, atleast.
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Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (itix):
Did I mention Genesi or KDH for that matter? Nope.

Mr.Reasonable, may I suggest reading what I said again so that you might see that my post made perfect sense? Atleast trying to comprehend the contents of the post before replying to it makes life in the forums so much easier, don't you think?
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 41 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 17:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Power Ranger):
Blah, blah... yada, yada... I think most people understand that this is your standpoint now, can we *please* get back on topic?
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Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (cheesegrate):
Oh, can you tell me the horses which are going to win on the tracks this weekend as well, Mr.Foreteller?

All I see is a "guestimate" based on too many prematurely announced release dates. Get over it. I say it'll be here when it's ready. Until then; life goes on as usual.
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Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 17:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (dammy):
Again, why do you guys feel such a need to bash the competition rather than discussing the greatness of your own preferred choice? Hmmm... what was the topic again?
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Posted by dammy on 29-Mar-2003 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (samface):
In Reply to Comment 37:
> Again, why do you guys feel such a need to bash the competition rather than

Because it's a massive weakness that you FFOTNC don't seem want to talk about but rather beat up on someone else to draw attention away from a Teron mobo that was rebadged to run a vapor OS?

> discussing the greatness of your own preferred choice? Hmmm... what was the
> topic again?

Let's see, how can I make this as clear as possible to you. My perferred choice is *AMD*. Got that? I realize this isn't your native tongue, so let me rephrase it for you, "Dammy is not going to buy any PPC, but AMD products." This thread is (or was) about PPC system that is being slammed by the likes of you which I find it awefully funny. Especially when the PPC system your backing (joy, because of a boing ball sticker) is in far worse shape and it's intended OS is still vapor. Why don't you go back over to never-neverland at AmigaIncWorld and be happy? I know I sure would be if you did.

Dammy
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 45 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 17:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (dammy):
If you don't care for Amiga hardware at all, why joining the Amiga hardware flamewar to begin with? I'm sorry if I mislabel you but I must say that it is entirely your irrational behaviour that is to be blamed. Isn't there more important things to spread anti propaganda against, like nazism or something? I mean, it's just a bloody product, for christ sake!

Regarding me trying to avoid the AmigaOne discussion; does the word OT mean anything to you?

Geez...
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 46 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 29-Mar-2003 17:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (dammy):
BTW, I have an AMD as well. :-P
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 47 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 29-Mar-2003 19:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (samface):
> In Reply to Comment 44:
> If you don't care for Amiga hardware

No, I'm find topics of Amiga hardware of interest, atleast for old memories sake. This isn't one of them since this is PPC hardware that has zip to do with Amigas.

> at all, why joining the Amiga hardware flamewar to begin with?

Perhaps I'm tired of FFOTNC bashing Genesi's products? Had this been a friendly talk about the pegasus, I won't have bothered posting my point that you FFOTNC have nothing to bitch about since your worshipable masters have done zero so far in getting out other then a rebadge PPC box with Linux. I am not impressed.

> I'm sorry if I mislabel you but I must say that it is entirely your irrational
> behaviour that is to be blamed.

Oh I'm so touched. Until your worshipable master have produced something they promised over a year ago to the community, why don't you stop bitching about Pegasus I and II? Or does it just gall you that Pegasus hardware has been released and MOS has been released months ago and you have zip to show to the rest of the FFOTNC? Isn't that really it, your ego can't take it that all the BS you were spouting has been proven to be nothing but vapor? Genesi is rolling along and Eyetech/Hyperion is stuck back at the gate, and that really pisses you off, doesn't it?

> Isn't there more important things to spread anti propaganda against, like
> nazism or something? I mean, it's just a bloody product, for christ sake!

Why don't you go take a chill pill and stick to never-neverland? You can bash the hell out of Genesi and no one (can) will debate against you there.

> Regarding me trying to avoid the AmigaOne discussion; does the word OT mean
> anything to you?

Coming from such an esteemed trollmiester like you, I'm duly hurt.

Dammy
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Posted by itix on 29-Mar-2003 20:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (samface):
> Huh? I mentioned neither KDH nor Genesi.> The ad says "DUAL G3 / G4 ATX MAINBOARD" and Josť complained because> there is no such thing available yet. That's also what I said;> we talked about the availabilty of those advertised boards.> Who said anything about KDH and Genesi? Not me, atleast. Josť complained this KDH advert. If you click that banner you get to the KDH website.Bad adverts are not probably part of this topic. Now cool down and breath.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 49 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Power Ranger on 29-Mar-2003 21:17 GMT
What did Mcween say in 2001. AmigaONE and OS4 is on schedule and rocking <--- or something on those lines, well Amiga fans the year is 2003 and what has come out? nothing at all, i am with Dammy with AMD, this is so stupid i am not going either OS4 or Pegasos because imo both companies are a complete shower of shite, will get a new AMD chip and continue to run Amiga Forever and Amithlon on the hardware i choose and that will be my only Amiga future for now.
Pegasos is shipping : Comment 50 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 30-Mar-2003 03:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (samface):
@Samface.

You can try to twist it as much as you want but the point is that Genesi has still a mobo and an OS available while neither the AmigaOne nor OS4 are.
If it makes you happy you can say that KDH and Vesalia are advertising a Genesi product which does not exist yet (Dual G3/G4) but the same company have been advertising the AmigaOne (on ANN banners) and OS4 (on their website) for months ...
I don't think that someone can be fooled with this pegasos ad as it is obvious that you can not order a dual cpu Pegasos now.
To be back on the subject. I welcome the 300-400 new pegasos owners on ANN and I hope that they will buy some software so our developers can continue their work for the community.
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