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[News] Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4ANN.lu
Posted on 11-Apr-2003 07:25 GMT by samface213 comments
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Cross-post from AmigaWorld.net:

For you who can't read Swedish, the release of AOS4 for CSPPC is drawing closer. Hyperion have found a reliable repair shop repariting broken Cyberstorms for them.

GGS-data announcement (in Swedish). Intertran (free online text/webpage translations into many languages)

Hyperion is making an offer to relay the broken boards of GGS's (and other scandinavian resellers') customers to this repair shop. This relay-offer will rotate between the various Amiga dealers of the world so as not to swamp the repair shop. First off are the Scandinavian resellers.

GGS is now asking people to send in their broken CSPPC:s to them for batch-sending to Hyperion. The price is 1250 SEK (135 euro). If the card cannot be repaired within 3 months, it will be returned by Hyperion at no cost.

If you are an interested Scandinavian (or just really, really impatient), contact GGS data at GGS contact form (Other Scandinavian resellers should have got the same offer)

Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 101 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 11-Apr-2003 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (NihilVor):
feels like everyone has an agenda lately, though.
perhaps this community is getting just a little .. weird.

for the first time in ten years, new machines are coming out. and for the first time, two operating systems are on the way out for these machines.. and people behave like this? heh.. where are the rational people? have most of them gone silent, left.. cause of the trolls/flamers et al?

Each time someone comments on something, another person picks up the sentences, finds something wrong with how it was phrased and argues over that, instead of what the post was really about. nitpicking, rather than having a real discussion. I find this a little sad, and it feels like something along the way has been lost, and now no one seems to remember the way back to peaceful, rational and ordered arguments. sorry for beeing off topic, but I needed to get it off of my chest. I guess its up to the visitors if this is what we want or not. seriously, how many here enjoys this sort of discussion that I described here? yet people are responding to that type of posts, which in turns just fuels the fire yet again. calm down, step back. I know many has a vivid memory of the amiga and what we used to do, but it is just a computer. a computer that brings forth warm feelings for many, I'm sure. but it's still no reason for these fights all the time.

//reflect -- getting a little tired of this nitpicking
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 102 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 11-Apr-2003 14:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 100 (Anonymous):
Right, it's not even the most offensive that's came from Hyperion, Hermans has said much worse about the client base over the couple of years, his little enterprise has existed.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 103 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Zorro on 11-Apr-2003 14:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (Anonymous):
There is a bunch of blind followers of both the side that are causing this chaos... helped from the sometime strange-minded Amiga Inc. and Genesi owners, obviously... ;)

But both the official OS and MOS are developed from two of the most dedicated and productive Amiga companies and a lot of community developers...

This is a miracle today... and many members of the (ex ?) community don't understand this...

I hope that this will change soon...

Bye.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 104 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 11-Apr-2003 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Not a worshipper):
Dude, you should get out a bit more. Meet real people and stuff. I think it will do you good, i'm sure of it.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 105 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 11-Apr-2003 14:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (Anonymous):
>REAL AMIGA USERS must unite and stop supporting the evil side before the Amiga >is killed off once and for all.

jose piss of back to the amiga.com forums, do us all a favour, you insane tripe is getting boring really fast
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 106 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas W on 11-Apr-2003 14:33 GMT
What is wrong with some of you people?

Some people from both sides (some of whom are strongly swayed in either direction) agree that this is a really good thing and that Ben's comments aren't bad.

I can't see at all what is supposed to be bad about a little generalization. Of course I wouldn't want to be called a blind follower of [whatever], but in my opinion this wasn't what was written. People on both sides were able to see this, yet some write that they're crying about it. What gives?

This is a way freaky community sometimes. I miss the days when people just helped each other out and let themselves be helped without worrying about scheming. This whole story is becoming more confusing than a Final Fantasy storyline.

Kick back a little all of you. That includes AOS-, MOS-, AROS-, Amithlon- and Nothing-followers. It's just business. It's not like Ben bit the head off some infant or even made a personal insult, unlike some other highly positioned persons in this market.

I believe some people just read into stuff too much. You can hardly write anything without it being analyzed and ripped to shreads and fed right back to you in a way you never imagined possible. I suppose some of it comes from the fact that only some users have English as their native tongue, and this leads to some misunderstandings in and of itself. Heck, this even happens between American/UK English. If you bring another native tongue into the picture with all the semantic and syntactic problems that come with this and mix it up a bit with personal feelings, impatience and a lot of disappointment/pain over the years it sure does seem to become an explosive mixture...

Sometimes all of this reminds me of the Ramones song Poison Heart:

"You know that life really takes its toll
And a poet's gut reaction is to search his very soul
So much damn confusion before my eyes,
But nothing seems to phase me and this one still survives.

I just wanna walk
right out of this world
'cos everybody has a poison heart."

Can't we all just get along for a while? Give a little, take a little.

It would be nice if everyone could post to ANN without worrying about posts being taken to bits and having it thrown back in your face.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 107 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Zorro on 11-Apr-2003 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (reflect):
Well said !

I hope that, with the launch of OS4 and the real launch of the Pegasos/Mos (Pegasos 2) :), we begin to grow...
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 108 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 11-Apr-2003 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (MIKE):
Not that strange really, considering the amout of crap, lies, bullshit and more they have had to read on websites.

But then i'm sure you would let people piss all over you, wouldn't you?
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 109 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Jose on 11-Apr-2003 14:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (cheesegrate):
MorphOS is killing the Amiga but you people can not see it or you are happy to see Amiga Inc go under.

Save Amiga today and ditch MorphOS
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 110 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Syke on 11-Apr-2003 14:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Jose):
Oh shut up!

People make up their own minds. Do you really think they will follow you blindly? (Would that make them Jose-worshippers btw?)
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 111 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 14:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Jose):
Look stop the crap.

Im not intrested in MOS & im not intrested in pegasos or any mobo that cant run AmigaOS4.

But if ppl find that pegaos/MOS combo is more to their liking then so be it.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 112 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 14:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Jose):
I agree Morphos is going to destory the Amiga and people MUST NOT GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE, Genesi are monsters which are brainwashing people.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 113 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas W on 11-Apr-2003 15:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (Anonymous):
Dude, this is NOT helping anyone.

I totally dislike Genesi, for personal and other reasons, but calling them monsters is just way off limits.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 114 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 11-Apr-2003 15:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (Anonymous):
Mike Bouma, Ben Hermans et all... Could you please tell to these stupidious-anonymous (I hope they do listen you) that this kind of behaviour ain't any good publicity to your cause of making and promoting upcoming OS4.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 115 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 11-Apr-2003 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (JoannaK):
You're serious? Why should they? Do you feel it is their responsibility to babysit the amiga community?
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 116 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas W on 11-Apr-2003 15:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (JoannaK):
Joanna, for once we totally agree.

The trolling from both sides has to end.

Hopefully extremists from both camps can understand that this hurts only themselves in the end.

I'm cheering for my side, but I refuse to be put in the same category as blind whiners. I have my reasons and they're a mixture of rational and personal. The second people let their reasons become emotional things go haywire.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 117 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Jonny Johansson on 11-Apr-2003 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (Anonymous):
>I agree Morphos is going to destory the Amiga and people MUST NOT GIVE IN TO >THE DARK SIDE, Genesi are monsters which are brainwashing people.

Ok, can't we agree that the last round of posts like this, confirms the
theory, that there are one or more people out there, who simply get a high
from cultivating distrust among the scant remainders of the so called amiga
community?

Please, do no connect these people with either perceived "side" - do not
give them the feeling of power they so feebly crave. Most of us are on edge,
after the past years and we could be forgiven for letting the grains of
truth/untruth/insinuations in posts like the above, resonate with- or
rub against our own. I hope however, that we still have it in us
to be greater than that...
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 118 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Bluehouse on 11-Apr-2003 15:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 114 (JoannaK):
Mike Bouma? have you ever seen his comments about MorphOS? he is not the sort of person i would class as a normal joe Amiga user but more like a complete anti morphos guy and to be honest after reading his comments it would not suprise me in the least if he is behind the <MorphOS is killing the Amiga> clan.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 119 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 11-Apr-2003 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Not a worshipper):
>I see the army of Hyperion apologists

Now I'm a Hyperion apologist? What a stupid troll.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 120 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 11-Apr-2003 15:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 119 (redrumloa):
Let's see what have I been called in the last couple months..

BAF
BMF
BB's lapdog
Hyperion apologist

Wheee trolls are so much fun.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 121 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 15:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (Alan Bluehouse):
Mike Bouma never posts anon so cut your crap.

And even tho i post anon here there are many here who know exatcly who i am.

When Ann starts having a login system then i will use my nick again.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 122 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 11-Apr-2003 16:14 GMT
There is only one thing that has been killing Amiga and still IS killing Amiga:

The companies that own/owned it - including Amiga Inc.

SHOW ME ONE INCIDENT, since the demise of Commodore, where ANY AMIGA OWNING COMPANY has delivered ANYTHING it promised. I guarantee you won't be able to.

It's funny, Boxer wasn't an official Amiga product yet the Amiga community supported it. Neither was the Draco, but people from the Amiga community supported that too. How different is this to the Pegasos ?

I DO NOT CARE what Hyperion, or Eyetech, or Amiga Inc say - the only reason they won't make OS4 run on the Pegasos is because Amiga Inc have told them NOT TO. They blame this on lack of hardware docs - bollocks - the hardware is EXACTLY THE SAME for Pegasos I, they're just NOT INTERESTED. Us developers for e.p.i.c have no problems getting a Pegasos or several, why should Hyperion ? The real reason is that they are scared people will get fed up with the betas of OS4 (or get fed up waiting for it) and will go to MorphOS instead.

Sure, you can call me a "MorphOS following scum" or whatever you like, if you want to be that small minded, but bear in mind most programmers these days would not give a flying toss about small platforms like MorphOS OR AmigaOS4.

Count yourselves lucky i'm willing to do MorphOS development, and AmigaOS4 development in the future (however the will to do this is being decreased DAY BY DAY by the idiots who post idiotic crap here, like "Pirate Divinity, save AMIGA")
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 123 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 16:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 ([JC]):
Sorry JC your just as bad as the ppl your moaning about.

And you should know better as you work for Epic.

Your comments are just as blind & small minded as others.

Maybe i will not bother to replace my broken feeblefiles CD's
with buying it again.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 124 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 11-Apr-2003 16:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 123 (Anonymous):
Please elaborate on how I am just as blind as the people resorting to "camps"
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 125 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 16:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 ([JC]):
Crap when MOS is available for Aone or LinuxOne or any PPC mobo that is not contracted by genesi then you may have a point.

But untill then Genesi is just as bad.


MOS dont run on Aone
Aos4 dont run on the pegasos.

They are compeating with each other just like many firms do & in most cases they dont help out the other.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 126 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 11-Apr-2003 16:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 125 (Anonymous):
> MOS dont run on Aone
> Aos4 dont run on the pegasos.

This has probably got a lot to do with AOne's being as rare as hen's teeth

> They are compeating with each other just like many firms do & in
> most cases they dont help out the other.

You think they would cooperate, between them they might have a chance to save the Amiga community, instead it's like buzzards and hyenas fighting over the scraps from a dead carcass.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 127 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 ([JC]):
Where did you get the pegasos docs from.

And when you know of a ppc mobo maker who gets aos4 ported with out amiga license.

then you may have a point.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 128 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by james howard on 11-Apr-2003 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 ([JC]):
"I DO NOT CARE what Hyperion, or Eyetech, or Amiga Inc say"

yep you only belive what you want instead of the truth.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 129 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Marktime on 11-Apr-2003 16:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Anonymous):
WOW, I don't have time to read through all these posts.

First, I am not a MorphOS follower. I considered briefly MorphOS, and
will consider it again. But I have never owned it, but I have owned
An Amiga 1200 060/50 running OS 3.1, if that helps anyone.

I said what I said, because this is another pre-payment plan.
Its a collect money in advance, advertised as being a good idea
because they will release OS 4 sometime soon in the future.

And we are either going to keep doing these things, or we are going to STOP.
I got off that bus, I'm not going to ever do it again, and yes, I evaluate
all offers through a certain set of criteria...is it a pre-payment, is it a
good idea because 'OS 4 is just around the corner'...if the answer to those
2 question is yes, then I'm not interested.

That isn't an attack on Hyperion. Ben can think it is, cause he really
wants this money badly. But its a result of Amiga, Inc. and things other
companies have done, and I recommend no one pre-pay for things based on
'shipping real soon now'....if you are still doing that, you've learned nothing.

It's OK, if some people wish to learn absolutely no lessons from events of the
recent past. But I am not one of them.

If someone else had a plan to fix Cyberstorm boards, that would be oh so
much better than Hyperion. Not because I hate Hyperion, but because Hyperion
is the company that is developing OS 4...that is why and the only reason
why...that is no slam on hyperion.

And you know what, I didn't say a word about the real reason Hyperion is slapping eyetech and Amiga, Inc. around...because I am glad they are doing that.

But I won't pre-pay for squat. Just release the dang thing, then we'll talk.

Not before, after.

We wouldn't even be having this convo if you had released the product. If its
so soon, then soon this convo will be over. Why even bother responding?

Hey its just around the corner...so just shut up and turn the corner already.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 130 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 11-Apr-2003 16:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Ex hyperion Fan):
Dream on, Benjamin Hermans never apologies.
I'm still waiting for his public excuses. But I guess he would reply
he doesn't even know what I'm talking about.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 131 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
@Ben
> I find it amusing that we are discussing this type of nonsense when the real question "why does Hyperion need to step in to organise repairs for hardware produced by other companies" goes unaddressed.

That's an interesting point. Why exactly are these obsolete slow cards put in the spotlight ? You are directing resources to supporting abandoned hardware while developers probably would prefer a clean cut, with everybody using an AmigaOne, avoiding the headache of multiple platforms.

I also would have thought that, after all the hits you took defending the dongle approach, an undongled CSPPC would give you headaches ? Last but not least, owners of an AmigaOne are not going to be impressed to be put in the second row, while CSPCC users already have fun playing with AOS4.

The focus on CSPPC would be understandable to a degree if AOS4 still can't run outside an Amiga hardware environment (m68000 cpu present, custom chips, chip ram, whatever). I truly hope that's not the case.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 132 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 11-Apr-2003 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 ([JC]):
JC, please don't waste your time reading those pathetic flamewars. Only a few individuals are responsible for them and are disgusting you from the amiga.

I'm sure most ppl respect & appreciate a lot your effort.

So thanks again and please avoid taking part in those pointless fights ! (I'll try too !!)
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 133 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by james howard on 11-Apr-2003 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 129 (Marktime):
"WOW, I don't have time to read through all these posts."

maybe you should...you might actually learn something!

"That isn't an attack on Hyperion. Ben can think it is, cause he really
wants this money badly."

sure sure ben is only doing this to make a quick buck and nothing else......your just a troll

"If someone else had a plan to fix Cyberstorm boards, that would be oh so
much better than Hyperion. Not because I hate Hyperion, but because Hyperion
is the company that is developing OS 4...that is why and the only reason
why...that is no slam on hyperion."

no one else does have a plan......you should be thanking hyperion for offering this to the Amiga users not insulting them.....hyperion have deliverd many good products and have a good reputation unlike some other companys who have offerd to repair them.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 134 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 129 (Marktime):
"That isn't an attack on Hyperion. Ben can think it is, cause he really
wants this money badly. But its a result of Amiga, Inc. and things other
companies have done, and I recommend no one pre-pay for things based on
'shipping real soon now'....if you are still doing that, you've learned nothing."

first you say it is not an attack & then you accuse them of prepayment system for AOs4 for wich it is not.
That is an attack cos you have no proof in any shape or form.

You only pay once the board is fixed damn it & if it not fixed they will send it back to you with no shipping charge.

It seems you dont understand the difference from PreOrder & PrePayment.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 135 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 11-Apr-2003 17:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 ([JC]):
Well, with Genesi it's different : the h/w is necessary to fund the OS development etc. Amiga funds nothing anyway.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 136 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 131 (Anonymous):
Funny why is Genesi giveing MOS free to CSPPC owners.

When useing your logic it would be better for Genesi not to & force ppl to get a pegaos to run MOS.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 137 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 11-Apr-2003 17:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 134 (Anonymous):
Dear Anonymous coward...not just you but all the other anonymous people.

When you don't put your name or your nickname, you really aren't standing behind your words.

Yes, I am using opinionated language, which has been my habit for a decade now, so what...you'll find it charming after a while, trust me.

I'm not confusing a preOrder of AOS4, with pre-paying for repairs on a Cyberstorm.

For the record, there is no reasonable way, in my mind, that someone would come up with a scam that only involved the owners of faulty CyberStorms. I am not
going to the extreme in suggesting that this is a blatant scam...no I am
saying I have grave concerns about selling things to the community in this way.

The point of my post, is you don't mislead people with 'real soon now'...leading them to decisions that YOU want them to make with suggestive,
but ultimately meaningless language.

If this is a service for people, GREAT. But let them make up their own mind
whether to do it or not, based on the facts.

I saw many many people in this community buy developer packs, beleiving not just that they were developer packs, but they were supporting the 'real soon now' relaunch of the Amiga platform. I saw many people buy party packs for the same reason. I saw people buy t-shirts and coupons for the same reason. Buying
developer packs is fine, t-shirts fine, games fine...all fine, if you bought
them for what they were...but people bought them because they were purposely mislead.

My point, is stop using 'real soon now' as logic to sell ANYTHING.
Not here...the painful reminders of recent history is just too much to bear..:0)

If it is truly real soon now, then we can just wait until it happens.
What harm is it to wait, if its real soon now, waiting is no biggy....

just wait. its real soon now anyway.

I won't worry about dramatic language, its par for the course, look we
are approaching 150 posts in what a few hours? LOL
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 138 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 11-Apr-2003 17:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (MarkTime):
I didn't read you comment.

But you only pay if you card gets fixed. Sounds nice.

I really don't get why this thread degenerated this way... GEEZ !
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 139 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 11-Apr-2003 17:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 136 (Anonymous):
>Funny why is Genesi giveing MOS free to CSPPC owners.

because no one would ever buy it? ;-)
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 140 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (MarkTime):
Useing nicks on Ann is proof of nothing unless you have trusted user status.

As i have been spoof far to much lately so i dont use may nick on here.

Its harder to spoof ip than it is to spoof a nick.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 141 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (MarkTime):
""The point of my post, is you don't mislead people with 'real soon now'...leading them to decisions that YOU want them to make with suggestive,
but ultimately meaningless language.""


How do you know how soon Aos4 will be?

YOU dont do you so you have no proof of misleading anyone.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 142 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 138 (mahen):
Yes that is nice of them.

They will spend time trying to fix your CSPPC & if they cant fix it send it back free of charge.

You dont have to pay them for the time they spent trying to fix your card Plus you dont pay the return shipping costs.

Yeah Bad Hyperion.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 143 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 11-Apr-2003 17:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (Anonymous):
maybe at least the shipping costs ?
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 144 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 11-Apr-2003 17:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 140 (Anonymous):
Just mail me and I'll set you up with a trusted user password. (This applies to anyone who wants one.)
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 145 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 11-Apr-2003 17:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 140 (Anonymous):
Shut up Alkemyst you are so Amiga pro it is pathetic, you keep going on about MOS in threads which is nothing to do with MOS.

Alkemyst GROW UP and stick to Amigaworld
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 146 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 17:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 145 (z5):
Another case of spoofing

That is not z5
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 147 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 11-Apr-2003 18:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 141 (Anonymous):
actually, I don't ever read IP addresses, but for those representing themselves with a static IP address, I guess I understand....sounds good to me, I won't criticize it again....

And some people make some interesting points...NOT YOU though.
Look, real soon now means something to most people, sure it may mean 2 days to one person, and may mean 2 months to another...but 'real soon now' both could and DOES mean over 2 years to other people. Look at the AmigaDE, partypack as examples...and you know the coupon offer is getting long in the tooth as well.

'real soon now' seems like it means something, but it is relatively meaningless.
I think it is wise to remind people that 'real soon now' is not a commitment
for anything. And I don't need proof that it isn't 'real soon now'

Given that 'real soon now' could mean anything from 2 months to 2 decades, depending on someone's viewpoint, then it will be 'real soon now'...I guarantee by someone's definition it will fill the criteria regardless of when its released. but making a buying decision based on a vague meaningless phrase 'real soon now'....darn it, too many people have been burned by it,
and I will be emphatic when I see something going down like this...
at least warn people, of course they will make their own decisions.

If Ben Hermans wants to tell us what he means specifically about the release
of OS 4, he can. My guess: he won't. He won't even say it will be less than 6 months...or this year, will he? He said he wouldn't, and I take him at his word.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 148 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 11-Apr-2003 18:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 144 (Christian Kemp):
I did, no answer yet :)
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 149 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Apr-2003 18:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (MarkTime):
""And some people make some interesting points...NOT YOU though.
Look, real soon now means something to most people, sure it may mean 2 days to one person, and may mean 2 months to another...but 'real soon now' both could and DOES mean over 2 years to other people. Look at the AmigaDE, partypack as examples...and you know the coupon offer is getting long in the tooth as well.""

Sorry you cant use the failure of one firm on another if the ppl involved had nothing to do with the falure of the other firm or that product.
Hyperion offering repair of CSPPC:s awaiting AOS4 : Comment 150 of 213ANN.lu
Posted by Red_Melons on 11-Apr-2003 18:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Red_Melons):
May I just point out that somebody has posted Comment 77 using the handle Red_Melons (216.173.7.222).
I am registered as Red_Melons, Red Melons and RedMelons on various sites and do not believe that this fairly distinctive handle has been used innocently.
I have posted messages mentioning that I have purchased an A1-XE system and believe that somebody is using my handle for the purposes of trolling.

I do not think that ANN should continue to allow anonymous posting when this sort of abuse takes place.
I am a long time Amiga User who would like to support any company, including AInc, Genesi, Eyetech, Hyperion, and all the retailers of Classic and PowerPC hardware and software.
I think the appearance of the AmigaOne and Pegsos are fantastic developments which a few years ago I thought would never happen, and that I would have to keep using my Apollo '040 until the fan disintegrated and destroyed the processor :)
I therefore have no interest in taking part in sad, juvenile threads such as this one.

I am shocked that somebody would post trolling messages using my handle (yes I am aware that there is no copyright on a handle, but the culprit is obviously aware of what they are doing).
Can somebody please let me know how to regisdted as a Trusted User?

Thanks
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