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Posted on 18-Apr-2003 19:04 GMT by Troels Ersking25 comments
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In a mail on the A1 mailinglist Alan Redhouse today wrote: "we are currently (from Wednesday last) shipping the A1-XE in volume, first to the dealers, then to the developers who ordered the SE way back but decided to change to the XE, then to board purchasers by order date, then to system purchasers by order date." "We expect to get the backlog cleared by the end of the month, but only if people avoid the temptation to ring up and ask how their order is doing - all that does is slow things up for everybody. We're all working flat out ATM - what else do you think I'm doing in the office this sunny bank holiday Friday!"
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Posted by Troels Ersking on 18-Apr-2003 17:07 GMT
Forgot the to add a link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/message/26303
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Posted by Good to go on 18-Apr-2003 17:50 GMT
Let me be the first one to say this is a very good sign. Sure we don't have OS4 but does that really matter? Outside the obvious answer of "YES IT DOES" I don't think so. Lets be happy that we have TWO motherboards that "in theory" are being designed to run OS4 and run it well! And they are actually being delivered!!! See that's the key!!! And now that we have one piece of the puzzle the other one won't be that hard to follow up on!! Come on Hyperion.. Get a few of these boards on your developers desks and let then have at it!!!
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Posted by yoodoo on 18-Apr-2003 18:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Good to go):
Methinks Hyperion were amogst the first to get their hands on the dev boards quite some time ago :)

These boards are the consumer ones, y'know, the ones normal people get.
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 18-Apr-2003 19:13 GMT
Anyone who knows how many orders there are for A1's and/or how many A1's Eyetech expects to sell?
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Posted by corpse on 18-Apr-2003 20:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (takemehomegrandma):
"or how many A1's Eyetech expects to sell?"

a few -> a lot ;)
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Posted by Atheist2 on 19-Apr-2003 07:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (takemehomegrandma):
I anticipate 100,000 by the end of 2004, minimum. With the heat of Palladium and other bogus stuff, much higher.

The AOS4.0 IS the killer app. When that ships, LOOK OUT!!!!

The re-awakening has commenced!

AmigaOne! T minus 4, and counting!!!!!
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Posted by Don Cox on 19-Apr-2003 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Atheist2):
"I anticipate 100,000 by the end of 2004, minimum. With the heat of Palladium and other bogus stuff, much higher.

The AOS4.0 IS the killer app. When that ships, LOOK OUT!!!!"

I would guess between 2 and 3 thousand sales to Amiga users. As Alan said in his recent speech, a good possible market is server farms running Linux. I don't know if those people are buying much in the present economic climate, but there should be some kind of market.

I don't think 4.0 will be anything like "killer" to anyone except existing Amiga users. There are far too many big gaps compared to other OS such as Mac OS X. By 4.2 there should be more hardware drivers, a browser with CSS and up-to-date Flash support, hopefully a full Java VM, a video editing program, DVD writing software, etc etc.

Even then, it will be very hard to compete with the Mac.
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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 07:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Don Cox):
Don

I dont know about that, the Mac is looking very costly & its software.
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Posted by DaveP on 19-Apr-2003 08:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Atheist2):
100,000 units in 1.75 years? On a dead platform with no advertising in the
broadsheets and little mainstream appeal yet?

Dream on.

The Pegasos has struggled to sell in quantities big enough to be a blip on
any serious radar outside of this tiny market, what makes you think the A1
project will fare magnitudes better?

On a side note I notice that the Pegasos which was apparently so crippled
by using Mai technology they were unable to run a G4 are now getting G4s in
July as an add on module. Anyone care to eat words? There was a lot of
"XEs cant possibly be running G4s because x/y/z" BS ( even though the Friedens
were using and testing one just short of a year ago now ) floating around
a month back.

Although to be fair, most people spreading this BS in the first place were
the technical lightweights of the forum and nobody with credibility or
official. ;-)
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Posted by Don Cox on 19-Apr-2003 09:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
"I dont know about that, the Mac is looking very costly & its software."

So is the AmigaOne.

I would be delighted if they sell 100,000 or a million. I just can't see it. The best hope is slow growth of the Amiga-using population instead of the current steady decline.

In the short term, until there is an office package and until IBrowse 3 arrives, the Amiga will be very hard to sell as a working computer.
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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 09:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Atheist2):
> I anticipate 100,000 by the end of 2004, minimum. With the heat of Palladium and other bogus stuff, much higher.

Doubt it. Assuming Palladium causes a 100% backlash, mainstream users will move to OS X and non-mainstream users to Linux.
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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Don Cox):
Don LOL yeah i dont see 100,000 being sold.

but i did take as what he was saying as tongue & cheek
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Posted by Don Cox on 19-Apr-2003 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
Did you? I think that one was genuine. But who can tell, in these uncertain times.

Of course they _should_ be looking to sell 100,000, as a minimum viable platform that might support a few shareware authors. But I think the current market is people who have (and regularly use) A1200s in tower cases with plenty of programs.

Those who already have Final Writer or Wordworth will not be bothered by the lack of a word processor.
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Posted by SlimJim on 19-Apr-2003 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Don Cox):
Nah, 100 000 is way over the top. We should be glad if we thread in the "tens of
thousands" range at the most. That's why Eyetech is aiming for server farms etc
too. *There* the sales numbers might be a lot higher if Eyetech do it right -
unfortunately those boards aren't technically "AmigaOne's" but really
"LinuxOne's" ... - But they mean money for Eyetech just as well! ;-)
.
SlimJim
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Posted by Don Cox on 19-Apr-2003 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (SlimJim):
"Nah, 100 000 is way over the top. We should be glad if we thread in the "tens of
thousands" range at the most. That's why Eyetech is aiming for server farms etc
too. *There* the sales numbers might be a lot higher if Eyetech do it right -
unfortunately those boards aren't technically "AmigaOne's" but really
"LinuxOne's" ... - But they mean money for Eyetech just as well! ;-)"

Well deserved money, I would say. Alan has put a tremendous amount of effort into this project.
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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 15:20 GMT
I'm just wondering about the Linux Server Farms running on A1.

One would think that x86 based MOBOs would be a great deal cheaper,
what are the reasons for buying a PPC MOBO instead? Since they're both
running Linux...
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Posted by Rob on 19-Apr-2003 20:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
Check out the same news item on amiga.org. There should be more info
on that in the link.
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Posted by William F. Maddock on 19-Apr-2003 21:29 GMT
There are those who are very interested in Linux as well as in chips that don't require an air conditioning unit to keep from burning up the CPU. In my experience the selling problem isn't with the OS in particular, or with the CPU family being used, but is with the support logic being used. It is a bit behind the leading edge. Yet, the more customers like this that Eyetech can sell to, the lower the price of the hardware will get for everyone. Doesn't that make things easier?
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Posted by KenH on 19-Apr-2003 21:52 GMT
Hey good to see a thread without any infighting and backbiting! It's an Amiga One thread so draw your own conclusions ;) Keep it up all concerned.
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Posted by redfox on 20-Apr-2003 01:06 GMT
This is good news. I really hope that AmigaOS4 is not far behind.

IMHO, the server farm idea is a good one. Less heat means less air conditioning cost.

Another possibility ... IMHO ... if the AmigaOne was placed in the right kind of case, it would fit in quite nicely in a home entertainment center along with the usual VCR, DVD, television, game console, and component audio gear. Just add an ADSL connection to the internet, a router, wireless LAN connection, portable tablet style LCD display device with optional keyboard and mouse ...

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redfox
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Posted by JoannaK on 20-Apr-2003 06:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (KenH):
Exactly.. Seethose couple goonies who got into trashing that anoher thread.. :(
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Posted by SlimJim on 20-Apr-2003 09:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (JoannaK):
@JoannaK

Actually, I have long suspected some of those "goonies" (definately not all, but
some) just enjoy trashing *any* thread, regardless of what "side" it's about. They
just change to the currently most aggravating extremist attitude- and after
changing their nick they just dive in to stir up trouble.
.
SlimJim
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Posted by KenH on 20-Apr-2003 20:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (redfox):
I wonder how realistic it is to have only flat screen monitors supplied with the A1s. Kind of like the most recent Mac. It'd be cool and show in the most forthright way that the Amiga has come up to todays standards.


>Another possibility ... IMHO ... if the AmigaOne was placed in the right kind of case, it would fit in quite nicely in a home entertainment center along with the usual VCR, DVD, television, game console, and component audio gear. Just add an ADSL connection to the internet, a router, wireless LAN connection, portable tablet style LCD display device with optional keyboard and mouse ...
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Posted by JoannaK on 21-Apr-2003 04:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (KenH):
Well.. Perhaps later when there are decent volumes in production and sales for nice bulk discounts. At this sales levels those flat screens would cost way too much...

Technically it sould not be any problem. I don't have Aone+os4 yet for testing BUT I do assume I can quite safely make this assumption based Pegasos+Mos. In Pega I have Radeon 9100 that is connected with DVI output to my 20" Dell LCD.. Getting it work required only setting one tooltype on Radeon monitor-information... Now having 1600*1024 resolution (I expect to get full 1600*1200 with some tweaks to GyberGfx) with 24bit colours.

And yes.. those Apple Cinema displays do indeed look good. But they aren't reason enough for me to get a Mac :)
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Posted by Paul on 24-Apr-2003 15:32 GMT
Yes, my board has arrived! :)
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