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Posted on 18-Apr-2003 20:50 GMT by Rafo25 comments
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mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 1 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 18-Apr-2003 20:18 GMT
Problem being that the pegasos is never going to have a cpu module capable of playing the newer games that .63->.67 added other then the newer neogeo releases :(
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 2 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-Apr-2003 20:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (corpse):
A G4 module will be produced if there's enough interest, but ONLY as an upgrade,
no systems will be sold with it. Alternatively, there's the 200E upgrade to PegII deal.
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 3 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 18-Apr-2003 20:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I didn't know there was a 3ghz G4 ;) .. If you read up thats the estimated required CPU power to run the newer ( as in original release date and not mame addition ) games e.g. Area 51, Wargods at a decent speed and anything else that uses semi-modern arcade hardware like the jaguar based stuff.

If you have a play with testing drivers you'll also notice that ZN-1 support is starting to happen , it currently only jukebox mode tho but because of mames perfect hardware and not just perfect playability emulation policly you can bet its going to need a killer CPU :(
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 4 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 18-Apr-2003 21:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (corpse):
Yep, the newest games won't run on any current Amiga (or compatible) system,
if I tick out a native Amithlon port.
Damn, someone must port zinc...
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 5 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 18-Apr-2003 22:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Honestly I played ver 0.67 of MacMame on a 600Mhz PowerG4 and it's caplable to amnage EASLY all latest gamez ... so I think that on a 600Mhz G3 there should be non much probs to play all gamez (a part someone reaaly BIG that can requira 1 frameskip).
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 6 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 19-Apr-2003 05:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
That G4 upgrade has now been annouced to be available in couple months.
See: http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=172&forum=9
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 7 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 19-Apr-2003 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Eva):
" Honestly I played ver 0.67 of MacMame on a 600Mhz PowerG4 and it's caplable to amnage EASLY all latest gamez ... so I think that on a 600Mhz G3 there should be non much probs to play all gamez (a part someone reaaly BIG that can requira 1 frameskip)."

I very much doubt cruise'in USA or Area 51 and the like ran playable on a 600mhz G4, Remember that Mame doesn't take advantage of GPU's etc and aims for perfect hardware emulation.

IIRC some mame ports have had games removed that use cores written in x86 assembly etc so it could be that your lastest games are KOF2001 and metal slug 3 which use the decade + old neogeo hardware whereas mine are the jaguar based ones implemented recently by aaron giles e.g. Area51, War gods etc :)
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 8 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User on 19-Apr-2003 14:13 GMT
MorphOS and Pegasos are killing the Amiga, lets all organise a Genesi boycot and show them that killing Amiga and Amiga Inc is not nice.
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 9 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 14:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (corpse):
And obviously you own the original arcade machines right? Because otherwise you're doing something illegal.
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 10 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 19-Apr-2003 14:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Amiga User):
>MorphOS and Pegasos are killing the Amiga, lets all organise a Genesi
>boycot and show them that killing Amiga and Amiga Inc is not nice.

Uhhh.. ok. You boycott Genesi, that'll show them.
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 11 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 19-Apr-2003 14:55 GMT
MAME 0.67 on the x86 side has a dynamic core which has sped things up immensely, particularly noticeable with games such as Killer Instinct.
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 12 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 19-Apr-2003 16:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
"And obviously you own the original arcade machines right? Because otherwise you're doing something illegal."

Actually , thats not correct , i wouldn't have to own the original machine but a set of the roms / harddrives in the new games. Many of the mames supported by mame are also considered abandonware.

I have access to a cruise'in USA set should the filth ever want to bust me over that particular rom ;) but its not like they're going to find my rom stash easilly anyways its not like they're in a folder called ROMZ on my windows desktop ; i don't even have windows ;)
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 13 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 19-Apr-2003 16:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (corpse):
s/mames/games
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 14 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 19-Apr-2003 16:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (corpse):
corpse wrote:
> i don't even have windows ;)

Well you are my kind of people then, Corpsy. I take back everything bad I ever
thought about you. ;)

Just curious, but if someone were to post satisfactory results on a bunch of
good arcade games on a Pegasos under MorphOS MAME, would you buy a Pegasos?
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 15 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 16:55 GMT
http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=morphos&type=1
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 16 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 19-Apr-2003 17:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Daniel Miller):
" Well you are my kind of people then, Corpsy. I take back everything bad I ever
thought about you. ;)"

Nice , one less person to fear :)

"Just curious, but if someone were to post satisfactory results on a bunch of
good arcade games on a Pegasos under MorphOS MAME, would you buy a Pegasos?"

I don't think i'd buy a machine just for mame, I don't have excess funds in that degree ;) ... If it ran well on PUP cards I might be tempted to use morphos to play some NeoGeo games :).

On the arcade theme, it'd be nice for shows to knock up a pegasos based mame cab .... I think the pegasos is about the same size as a neogeo MVS board so it shouldn't be hard to adapt the mountings and psu inside one of the lush neogeo cabs you can get for around the £300 mark ( modern cab , not an old plyboard thing ;) ) just add a graphics card with tv out and a jamma loom :D
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 17 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 21-Apr-2003 11:01 GMT
If Metal Slug 3 runs, I'm happy with it !
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 18 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Fab on 21-Apr-2003 11:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Ben Yoris):
It does :)
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 19 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Phill on 21-Apr-2003 15:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Rik Sweeney):
>MAME 0.67 on the x86 side has a dynamic core which has sped things up
>immensely, particularly noticeable with games such as Killer Instinct.

It only has an R4000/R5000 dynarec, which currently only affects Killer Instinct 1 & 2. You need something like a 4ghz P4 to run the C interpreter core, but only about 2ghz for the dynarec. Area 51 etc only needs about 2ghz, Crusin USA still needs something like 4ghz.

If there is a Power PC that can cope with that then maybe I'll take a look, but I'm not that hopefull. Hower most of the games added recently aren't anywhere near that power hungry. One to watch out for in 0.68 is horizon, it's quite addictive.

Phill
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Posted by Phill on 21-Apr-2003 15:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (corpse):
"Actually , thats not correct , i wouldn't have to own the original machine but a set of the roms / harddrives in the new games."

Depending on which country you live in, it's possible that even owning the original machine isn't enough. You can't run them on your PC without making a copy & you don't have permission to do that. However it wouldn't be worth going to court as they would throw the case out as wasting time.

If you're going to try to convince someone that you own a legal copy then you ought to have a complete working boardset. As eproms and hard drives can be reprogrammed, the contents are no proof that they are original.

"Many of the mames supported by mame are also considered abandonware."

No they aren't. There are only two games that have officially had permission given by the copyright holder to be distributed. The IDSA are still very active in closing down sites.

Phill
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 21 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Apr-2003 15:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (corpse):
"I think the pegasos is about the same size as a neogeo MVS board so it shouldn't be hard to adapt the mountings"

Most cabs don't have any mountings, the boards just sit in the bottom.
Nobody would buy a cab that would only take neogeo games.

> and psu inside one of the lush neogeo cabs you can get for around the £300
> mark ( modern cab , not an old plyboard thing ;) ) just add a graphics card
> with tv out and a jamma loom :D

The jpac/ipac would work quite well as it includes a jamma to keyboard interface ( usb/ps2 ). I wouldn't use tv out as you really want an rgb signal. Some modern graphics cards can be reprogrammed to run at 15khz, although alot of the newer cabs will accept a 15khz signal anyway ( naomi generally runs at 31khz ).

An old Jamma cab is probably the best bet to start with, you can get them less than 100 pounds and it's much easier to justify cutting holes in the control panel to add extra buttons.

Phill
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 22 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 21-Apr-2003 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
" Most cabs don't have any mountings, the boards just sit in the bottom.
Nobody would buy a cab that would only take neogeo games. "

I had a look at a bunch of cabs a while ago , and yes most just have the board sitting on the bottom or a shelf. There was however one cab that had some mountings to hold a neogeo sized board , they weren't proper mountings like a PC case by any means but i think the idea was to make the cab tidy and easy to maintain.

It was more of a home user cab then a real arcade cab anyways. Theres probably more NeoGeo specific cabs around with memory card slots etc but I've yet to see another one :\.
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 23 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 21-Apr-2003 16:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Phill):
" Depending on which country you live in, it's possible that even owning the original machine isn't enough. You can't run them on your PC without making a copy & you don't have permission to do that. However it wouldn't be worth going to court as they would throw the case out as wasting time. "

Some rom sets also contain decrypted roms where the encryption hasn't been worked out or an encrypted rom hasn't been dumped.

I very much doubt the filth would come to turn you over for some decades old arcade games, their more likely to do you for selling psx or xbox copies or distilling moonshine in your backyard ;)
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 24 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Phill on 22-Apr-2003 09:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (corpse):
>Some rom sets also contain decrypted roms where the encryption hasn't been
>worked out or an encrypted rom hasn't been dumped.

Thats mainly the new neogeo dumps, because nobody has worked out the m1 decryption yet. Because it's z80 code the encryption is based on only 8 bits & the less bits the harder it is to work out patterns. The decrypted dumps were made by using the original cart ( it has to be able to decrypt it or there is no point ). If you live in America then the age of these games puts them well under the DMCA, so even if you hooked the ROMS up to your PC then it would be illegal.

>I very much doubt the filth would come to turn you over for some decades old
>arcade games, their more likely to do you for selling psx or xbox copies or
>distilling moonshine in your backyard ;)

Getting away with something & being legal are two different things.
There are people that literally get away with murder. Individuals don't usually get sued for posessing illegal rom images, it's usually only people involved with distribution. Web sites generally get a cease and desist order, if they comply then they are usually let off scott free.

Namco sued someone making clone pacman boards & sites that carry anything related to Alien VS Predator have been contacted. Nintendo have been pretty quiet for a while, even though a game was dumped a while back where the only known copy in existance was in their front lobby.

Phill
mame 0.67 for MorphOS out. : Comment 25 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 22-Apr-2003 10:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Phill):
"Nintendo have been pretty quiet for a while, even though a game was dumped a while back where the only known copy in existance was in their front lobby. "

lol!
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