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Posted on 19-Apr-2003 11:28 GMT by Joël EHRET159 comments
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BBRV just announces on morphos-news.de that the promised G4 upgrade will be available on july 1st 2003. Read More
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 51 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Mike on 19-Apr-2003 13:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Mike):
-Before +Now
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 52 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Mike on 19-Apr-2003 13:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Anonymous):
> Mike & some others here
>
> If i were hyperion i would not give a damn about your request for a demo.
> cos all you do is attack hyperion most of the time so why would they want to > do things just on your say so.
>
> As your not worth scrapeping off my boot.

Well if Hyperion can't understand that it's in their interest to provide a demo as soon as possible, it's their problem.

It's obvious that the soonest Hyperion make a demo (of any form), the better it is. That's all what I meant in my previous posts.

As soon as there is no demo, the product can't be proven as being in a demoable state.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 53 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 19-Apr-2003 13:45 GMT
OK guys let's go back to the topic !

*** OFF TOPIC ***

*** PLEASE STOP POSTING ABOUT OS 4 NOW ***


Topic : pegasos g3 -> g4 upgrade; software bundle in july
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 54 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 19-Apr-2003 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Anonymous):
The motives for seeing Aos4 could be so to just to slag it off or hope that it aint as good as MOS so that they can feel at easy with the choice of going for pegasos/MOS.
---

Simply put, that couldn't be more far from the truth.
Quite the opposite. Since MorphOS has gotten a fair share of betatesters in last couple of weeks and it lacks lots of things, I expect AOS4 to be far, FAR ahead. Many of those things lacking now have been in AmigaOS for ages, so I expect them to be in OS4 aswell.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 55 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (mahen):
I remember when ppl asking for more info About MOS features list for quite some time before it was released but.

But the team said no cos of it giving info to the other side.

if hyperion feel the same why then thats fine.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 56 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 19-Apr-2003 13:48 GMT
Hans-Joerg, Kronos, Mahen etc. please stop it.
This is leading nowhere. A flamewar does not help anybody.
This will just end up as an insult thread if you continue.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 57 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Mike on 19-Apr-2003 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Anonymous):
> I remember when ppl asking for more info About MOS features list for quite
> some time before it was released but.

> But the team said no cos of it giving info to the other side.

> if hyperion feel the same why then thats fine.

Well Genesi have made demonstration of Pegasos + MorphOS everywhere in the past months. It's logical that a company that have a product in demoable state show it.

For example Apple will show MacOS X Panther (10.3) in June.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 58 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Bret "the hitman" Heart Fan):
Hyperion have released alot of products.
how many have you ?

And another fool who thinks the only thing that matters is a good looking upto date website
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 59 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Joël EHRET on 19-Apr-2003 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Please stop this endless and unconstructive flamewars about OS4...
please have a look at the topic : THIS THREAD IS ABOUT PEGASOS G4
UPGRADE... SO ABOUT HARDWARE... NOT SOFTWARE... EVEN OSs...

Hope It's clear for almost avery people there... especially for
concerned ones.

JOEL
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 60 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Mike):
NO MIKE

As its upto hyperion to how good the demo should be before showing it.

The definition of a demo state is down to the creators.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 61 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Amiga User on 19-Apr-2003 14:10 GMT
MorphOS and Pegasos are killing the Amiga, lets all arganise a Genesi boycot and show them that killing Amiga and Amiga Inc is not nice.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 62 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 19-Apr-2003 14:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Amiga User):
Oh, shut up...
I'll boycott your mother if you continue... She doesn't do her job well enough.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 63 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 19-Apr-2003 14:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Amiga User):
> MorphOS and Pegasos are killing the Amiga, lets all arganise a Genesi boycot
> and show them that killing Amiga and Amiga Inc is not nice.

Dude, your getting real close to convincing me to buy a Pegasus...

Dammy
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 64 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by don on 19-Apr-2003 14:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Amiga User):
This is the morphos users style of thought....

i haven`t seen a working G4 upgrade for the pegasos so it must not exist or not work properly and wont be ready until 2004.....also i have not seen any plans for morphos 2.0 therefore morphos wont be developed anymore and will stop at its current version. i can deduct all this as i dont really know anything on the topic at hand but i will say it anyway as fact because i can. therefore it must be true.

......crazy
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 65 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 14:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Amiga User):
Shut up
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 66 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Janimator on 19-Apr-2003 14:22 GMT
All us Amiga users must rally around and get many people to sign a petition to stop Genesi from killing our beloved Amiga and companies.

I ask you Mr Buck one last time, will you stop trying to kill the Amiga?
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 67 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 14:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (dammy):
I just told Amiga User to shut up.

But now he may have his uses as he is getting you to buy a PPC mobo.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 68 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 14:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (don):
LOL good one
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 69 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 19-Apr-2003 14:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Anonymous):
Yeah, but somehow I don't think he can guarentee me, in writting, that buying a Pegasus would put Amiga Inc out of community's misery. ;)

Dammy
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 70 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by SilvrDrgn on 19-Apr-2003 14:32 GMT
Lets all gather fellow Amiga users worldwide for the biggest protest in Amigas history, we must unite together to over come the evil companies like Genesi who are trying to kill each and everyone of us.

Amiga users must stop this evil before it is to late.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 71 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (dammy):
I don`t know Hans-Jörg bothers to comment here! (Hans-Jörg you must be some kind of sadist!) ;-)
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 72 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 19-Apr-2003 14:35 GMT
PLEASE PEOPLE

Are you proud of yourselves ??

Over 70 comments already and almost none about the topic.

PLEASE discuss your OS4 vs MOS war somewhere else;
I took a bit part into it too and I apologize for that.

*** ANY1 BEING OFFTOPIC HERE WILL BE SUED BY MYSELF ***
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 73 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 14:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (mahen):
So sue me already! ;-)
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 74 of 159ANN.lu
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Spoof
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 75 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 14:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (L8-X):
You sick bastard
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 76 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 14:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (L8-X):
LOL Nice one, spoofing the IP is soooo last year!
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 77 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 14:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 76 (L8-X):
Be a man why don't you and tell me who you are, then we can have a nice little "chat"?
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 78 of 159ANN.lu
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Spoof
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 79 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 19-Apr-2003 14:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (mahen):
@Mahen

You are a lone pillar of calm in this raging sea of fire ... ;-) Ok, I'll help by
asking an On-topic question: IS MOS ready to take advantage of AltiVec or is that
something to be added later?
.
SlimJim
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 80 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 14:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 78 (L8-X):
LOL heehee thats a good try!

Didn`t think you`d tell me you loser!
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 81 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 19-Apr-2003 14:46 GMT
Concerning comments 73 - 78

What happened to that "report abuse" button? Is an e-mail to Christian/other
moderator the only way to report bad behaviour to moderators?
.
SlimJim
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 82 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 14:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (SlimJim):
Would appear so. Christian really has to change the way ANN works, you can`t run a site with all this abuse going on.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 83 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 19-Apr-2003 14:50 GMT
Well thats why we have this ubercool trusted user system.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 84 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Iggy Drougge on 19-Apr-2003 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (don):
False analogy. Did Hooligan state that OS4 would never be released, or in 2004? No, he stated that is evidently wasn't it a demoable state. You could state that about the Pegasos 2 or G4 upgrade as well, and be perfectly right.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 85 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Kelly Samel on 19-Apr-2003 15:21 GMT
This is great news. I was kind of dreading having to
send back my PegI to upgrade, but with a G4 cpu module
available seperately I may just keep my current machine.
Especially considering the G3 is already performing
wonderfully for me. :)

It will be interesting to see the difference between
the 2 motherboards (PegI and PegII) when both running
the same cpu cards too...
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 86 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by don on 19-Apr-2003 15:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Iggy Drougge):
that was a general one...not just made from hooligans comments
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 87 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 15:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (hooligan/dcs):
Hooligan, where do you find info on becoming a trusted user? Maybe there should be a link or something on the main page for users to get info on how to become a trusted user.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 88 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 19-Apr-2003 15:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Hans-Jörg Frieden):
@Hans,

do you really think you are making sense?

You said, listen to the source....well, its not ready until you say its ready.
You are the source, correct?

It's not ready...you haven't said its ready, so its not ready....

are you saying its done?

How can you possibly twist that around? .....You do seem amateur....
you want to say, you won't say its ready, but wink wink wink, everyone should making buying decisions based on the idea that its ready.

Wrong....its not ready until you say its ready...only a fool would assume its ready when 1)even when Amiga, Inc. says something is ready, its not...and 2)rumors about it being ready have been wrong for a decade now....and 3)you aren't saying its ready.

You see....ITS NOT READY, because YOU don't say ITS READY.

You are the source....gosh, I hope that is simply worded enough for you to understand.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 89 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 15:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (MarkTime):
Marktime

Its upto the source to say when its most likely TO BE READY.

I hope that is simply worded enough for you to understand.

cos you rarely understand most things
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 90 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 19-Apr-2003 15:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (bbrv):
> BBRV :
>Finally, we intend on offering a software bundle to all Pegasos I owners that will be a VERY good package for a VERY small price. We want a solid group of happy users to be ready to welcome hundreds of new Pegasos II users to the Community. They will be join us here, on amiga.org, ANN, amiga-news, morphos-news, the morphzone.org and phinixi.com starting in September and we want everyone to be ready for them...;-)

Yup! It's going to be a pretty freekin' nice bundle! ...Though maybe it should be referred to as an agglomeration, or a stock pile, or something immense like that ; }


<--greenboy---<<<<
coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
 
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 91 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 16:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (SlimJim):
>Ok, I'll help by asking an On-topic question: IS MOS ready to take advantage of
>AltiVec or is that something to be added later?

What do you mean? Altivec-accelerated realtime shadows in MUI menus? ;-)
Basic scheduler awareness? Optimized standard routines?
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 92 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 91 (Anonymous):
like URL to that features list ?
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 93 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 16:55 GMT
http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=morphos&type=1
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 94 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Apr-2003 16:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Anonymous):
First line exposes them perfectly "morphos is 'stolen' amigaos code"
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 95 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 19-Apr-2003 17:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Anonymous):
Type in AmigaOS4 and count how often it already was released ;)
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 96 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 19-Apr-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (dammy):
>Dude, your getting real close to convincing me to buy a Pegasus...
>Dammy

Want me to bring mine by and show you?
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 97 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 19-Apr-2003 17:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Kelly Samel):
>This is great news. I was kind of dreading having to
>send back my PegI to upgrade, but with a G4 cpu module
>available seperately I may just keep my current machine.
>Especially considering the G3 is already performing
>wonderfully for me. :)
>It will be interesting to see the difference between
>the 2 motherboards (PegI and PegII) when both running
>the same cpu cards too...

I actually don't feel a need to upgrade from a G3 to a G4. Other than the Altivec, there really is no compelling reason to upgrade.

But some people do find the Altivec a useful tool, and I can see where they are coming from. FOr my work, it's not that necessary, but knowing that upgrades are coming is the best news I've heard in awhile.

Now, back to the galley before they notice I've gone. 8)
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 98 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by Red Melons on 19-Apr-2003 17:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (L8-X):
To register as a trusted user send an e-mail to Christian Kemp ckemp@yweb.net with your 'nick' and password.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 99 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 19-Apr-2003 17:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Nate Downes):
Well.. If there comes music software with high quality Software synthesis, realtime filtering, effects and mixer (like Orion to Windowse) with 96kHz/24bit output then Altivec is definitely useful, but with current softwares I have seen it seems not to be problem.
G4 Upgrade for Peg 1 owners : Comment 100 of 159ANN.lu
Posted by L8-X on 19-Apr-2003 18:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Red Melons):
Thanks for the info red melons.
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