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[News] Bluetooth for Amiga !ANN.lu
Posted on 22-Apr-2003 23:06 GMT by Cyril Guilleminot (Edited on 2003-04-23 18:01:01 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä)11 comments
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Very interesting news : http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2003-04-00150-EN.html
Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 1 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Apr-2003 00:39 GMT
The company what added extra code to their drivers to disable peoples harddrive if the main file was altered, brilliant news to anyone that trusts LiarsBOX
Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 2 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 23-Apr-2003 01:44 GMT
Next: firewire drivers for firewire adapters on PCMCIA port ... please ;-)
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Posted by Jope on 23-Apr-2003 02:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
As far as I can see, that was Cloanto speaking, not Elbox?

Oh well, good to see that you were able to voice your opinion on the subject! Free speech is very important in these days of DRM and whatnot.

Anyhow, I'd like to take this opportunity and say to you: Enjoy the sunshine, summer's almost here!
Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 4 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Xeyes on 23-Apr-2003 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Cmon man, Elbox has already been taken to the woodshed over this one, let it rest. ;)
Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 5 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 23-Apr-2003 09:16 GMT
This is both nifty and not particularly astounding. See, these Bluetooth "cable replacements" are designed to do exactly that- replace cables, as transparently as possible. If you think it's great for Amigas, imagine how nice it'd be to use with, say, a Psion Series 5, or any other portable without the option of 802.11b support.

One thing to keep in mind is that, as with 802.11 and WEP, security can be a bit of a headache, as can interoperability between devices (especially early ones and those bearing the Microsoft brand, or so I gather), since the spec has 'evolved' as a sort of moving target. Not a big deal for a single home cable-replacement, but if you intend to use the same 'piconet' for Internet sharing/PDA syncing/etc, it's something to be aware of.
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 23-Apr-2003 09:40 GMT
Oh, and if it's not obvious, Bluetooth also requires a protocol stack not unlike that used for USB; this lives entirely within the adapter and its microcontroller in the case of an RS232 cable-replacement 'bridge,' and I'm not sure if any provide the option of a 'raw' interface for handling by a software stack on the host machine (they'd certainly not plug'n'play just yet, if set to/available in that mode). Practically, this means you're probably limited to talking to whatever it is you can talk to over the serial encapsulation used (RFCOMM?); things like CF readers and voice headsets (and probably mice/keyboards/gamepads) would be out, not that they'd be much fun across an RS232 link slower than a Bluetooth channel itself.

If a piece of hardware exists that *does* offer the 'raw' (L2CAP layer?) link over serial, you'd need a Bluetooth stack to do useful things with it, just as we need software like Poseidon (and appropriate drivers) to use USB peripherals.

Google turns up
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/00jul/SLIDES/ipobt-tech/sld025.htm , which might be helpful...

...and this, oddly enough: http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2003/02/24/daily13.html
Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 7 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Apr-2003 16:27 GMT
You can't use this on a amiga since it requires windows xx running.

it's only for AmigaForever.
Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 8 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Doobrey on 23-Apr-2003 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
>You can't use this on a amiga since it requires windows xx running.
>it's only for AmigaForever.

Huh?? What drugs were you on when(if?) you read the article on Amiganews.de ??

From the article...
"On a Bluetooth-enabled PC, Amiga Explorer also works with a Bluetooth serial adapter attached to the Amiga serial port." ..Blah Blah,waffle waffle.."In either case, no Bluetooth software is required on the Amiga. "

So basically, it`s like a null modem cable...er, without the cable !(does that make it a "null modem null" ?)

The thing that made my eyes pop out though.. "Such Bluetooth devices can cost as much as $200.00".
I think I`ll stick to using a homemade cable that cost me about £1..and spend the rest on beer ;)
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Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 10 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Offensive my s, again. on 24-Apr-2003 07:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Adolf Hitler Forever):
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Bluetooth for Amiga ! : Comment 11 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Apr-2003 17:05 GMT
What's with the damn Beer references???? So cool of you!!! geeeeee you drink beer!! what jackass would say.. spend $2.00 on a cable and $198.00 on beer... beer beer beer... damn geeks!!!!!
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