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There's a thread on slashdot, about Hyperion porting games to the Linux platform. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/23/0018200&mode=nested&tid=127&tid=163
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Posted by priest on 23-Apr-2003 07:32 GMT
I got "Either your network or ip address has been banned from Slashdot ..."

LOL!
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Posted by Emeric SH on 23-Apr-2003 08:12 GMT
The midnight racer is targeted for AmigaOS as well the article tells. Wonder if it will come to the Blizzard/Cyberstorm boards as well - the game didn't look that demanding hardware wise. Hope there will be a B/CPPC version.
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Posted by Sjoerd on 23-Apr-2003 08:20 GMT
The site of INGA does show the latest news with the date jan 2002?
I downloaded the demo of Midnightracer, but did not work on XP home.
And wanted to load the AVI of a game Micro Scooter Challange but not found on the website.
So I can only see now pictures and nod see or play the demo´s

Ok HJF I am spreading FUD...........:-)

I hope Hyperion will do a good job with these games, proting to the Mac and Amiga.
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Posted by Anonymous on 23-Apr-2003 08:31 GMT
Some reviews from people who actually had the misfortune to buy this Yet Another Cruddy Old LithTech Game:

Mindnight Racing is a terrible game (Score:5, Interesting)
by recap (209790) on 2003.04.23 5:02 (#5786757)
While it's nice to see Linux and even my old favorite Amiga OS get some new software Midnight Racing is a terrible game.

I picked it up for the equivalent of about $2.50 US and felt thoroughly ripped off. While the screenshots look fine it plays like it was written by someone who's never been in a car much less driven one! On the bright side the DVD style case could be reused after throwing the game out.

I hope their other titles are better but given Autobahn racing looks like it uses the same game engine I don't hold out much hope.
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Re:Mindnight Racing is a terrible game (Score:2, Funny)
by madmarcel (610409) on 2003.04.23 7:34 (#5787273)
I distinctly remember three things about this awful game:

1) It didn't matter which track you drove, they were all exactly alike. Lengths varied, but if you've seen the screenshots on the website...well...that's it. That's all you will see throughout the entire game. A highway at night. No change of scenery whatsoever.

2) You steal the cars you drive. This is shown by means of a black screen...with some strange clickety-click sounds coming from the speakers...right.

3) Whilst racing your monstrous beastly eh...not quite ferrari, not quite lamborghini car down the highway, with the engine roaring...you could hear birds singing in the trees and you could hear crickets in the grass along the highway...
(Well...I think that's were they were hiding.. - maybe they were driving the other cars ;^)

Hmmm...indeed a very bad game. Had some issues with the graphics as well IIRC, the lights on the cars that came towards you would change colour at random. Or all the lights would just dissappear.
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Whatever. What AmigaOS and Linux needs to ensure commercial success is another top-list title from Inca Gold's impressive catalogue: "Do You Know Jesus?" :=)

"Do You Know Jesus is a fun and fast paced game that entertains as it educates. With over 1500 questions covering both the Old and New Testaments, your knowledge of the Word of God is tested in new and challenging ways. Play with your family and friends in a rapid fire game show mode, or just play alone to gauge your command of God's living word. Never has so much fun delivered so much Kingdom value."

Will Hyperion add a God Mode cheat?
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 5 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Elwood on 23-Apr-2003 09:20 GMT
And no mention of Hyperion on the IncaGold homepage...
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 6 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 23-Apr-2003 12:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
I have to admit that I haven't seen an IncaGold game worth bothering with yet. They've only managed to produce extremenly mediocre material so far.

This is no reflection on Hyperion or the stadard of their work, except in that the licenses are probably cheaper than those for real quality games.

Now, if anybody was to port Civ III, or Thief, Half-Life or DeusEx, then perhaps even though they are very old now that would bring some quality gaming to the Amiga. IncaGold? I'll pass, thank you.
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Posted by DaveP on 23-Apr-2003 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Bill Hoggett):
Funny you should say that Bill, but I have the same opinion but kept my gob shut in case it upset any red trolls. ;-) I wouldn't be surprised if Hyperion spruced up the gameplay to make it approach top notch.

I would actually like to see more games from platforms like the Game Boy Advance come across to the Amiga platform for 040+ owners. These tend to use isometric 3d and 2d scrolling to good effect. For example the ports of Lord Of The Rings The Two Towers and Rogue Spear are particularly effective.

The tendancy towards 1stPP 3d games I find a bit boring these days and enjoy the accessibility that simplified game engines give ( maybe because they have to emphasise gameplay to keep your attention? ).
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 23-Apr-2003 13:05 GMT
Would anyone support a petition for more 2PS?

You know, Second Person Shooter? You know, where you're the one taking 99% of the beating? WE WANT MORE REALISM!

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Posted by DaveP on 23-Apr-2003 13:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Ole-Egil):
If it doesn't require a dongle then Im not signing the petition. ;-)

Skedaddle would be a good name of a game like that. "You are on your own, scared shitless. You have nothing but a pen knife, a pair of shorts and your own wits. The object is to run away from the US military in seven different locations whilst dodging DU shells"

Id buy it.
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 23-Apr-2003 14:27 GMT
Though this agreement between Hyperion and IncaGold is really a great news, we must admit that this is miraculous to have such deals, regarding the state of the market.

Though we can say that this only concern 2nd category games, this is FAR better than nothing, and IIRC the last time we had a good car racing game on the Amiga must be when the Lotus Trilogy was released on CD32 !

We now have to wait and see how the game plays, maybe by downloading the demo on PC in a first time.

But definitely a good news for the Amiga lovers.
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 23-Apr-2003 14:30 GMT
Damned, I can't find the demo on www.jeuxvideo.com which is the biggest video game website in France...
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 23-Apr-2003 14:34 GMT
Found :

http://www.incagold.com/products/midnight%20racing/midnight.php
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 23-Apr-2003 14:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ben Yoris):
Great... the demo doesn't work on my PC... Too bad.

Thx again Mr. Micrso$oft.
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Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 23-Apr-2003 14:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
>Yet Another Cruddy Old LithTech Game:

It doesn't use LithTech.
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Posted by Darth_X on 23-Apr-2003 16:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Bill Hoggett):
@Bill Hoggett

> Now, if anybody was to port Civ III, or Thief, Half-Life or DeusEx, then perhaps even though they are very old now that would bring some quality gaming to the Amiga. IncaGold? I'll pass, thank you.

By the way, what line of work are you in Bill?

I was wondering, do you plan to go work for Genesi and work on licensing games like this to be ported to MorphOS? ;)

Well, sounds like an interesting idea. :-D
________
*yawn*
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Posted by just not bill on 23-Apr-2003 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ben Yoris):
It works for me on Win98.
Works means the "video" plays
It seems to be a unplayable demo :(

But I think a new racing game for amiga
even if mediocre compared to new PC
Titles is good news.
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Posted by Don Cox on 23-Apr-2003 17:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (DaveP):
Skedaddling:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2966007.stm
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 18 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 23-Apr-2003 18:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Darth_X):
@Darth_X

> By the way, what line of work are you in Bill?

Does it matter?

> I was wondering, do you plan to go work for Genesi and work on licensing
> games like this to be ported to MorphOS? ;)

No, why should I?

I am merely speaking from the point of view of a gamer, with no red or blue preference in mind, and the reality is that from the gamer's perspective IncaGold games are not very good. As a gamer, I really don't care how much a game costs to license, only what it is like to play. Surely that is a gamer's only consideration?


@DaveP

> I wouldn't be surprised if Hyperion spruced up the gameplay to make it
> approach top notch.

I would. I doubt the license goes that far, and the truth is that these games are poor because of poor design, not poor implementation.


@Ben Yoris

Are games of this quality better than nothing? That depends on your perspective. If you buy the best games available for the platform then the answer might be "yes", but if you only buy games that are worth playing then the answer would have to be a resounding "no".
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Posted by Jon on 23-Apr-2003 18:36 GMT
Laser Squad Nemesis...Laser Squad Nemesis...Laser-

Well, Civ3 would make my day too :) Too bad its MacOS license is sold so it probably won't be ported to Amiga if miracles won't happen.
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Posted by Alan Buxey on 23-Apr-2003 20:32 GMT
..and just like Slashdot, ann.lu now suffers from friggin' dupes!

http://www.ann.lu/detail.cgi?category=news&file=1050696381.msg
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 21 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 23-Apr-2003 23:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Bill Hoggett):
@ Bill Hoggett (In Reply to Comment 15)

>@Darth_X

>> By the way, what line of work are you in Bill?

>Does it matter?

LOL!

>> I was wondering, do you plan to go work for Genesi and work on licensing
>> games like this to be ported to MorphOS? ;)

>No, why should I?

LOL!

> I am merely speaking from the point of view of a gamer,

Then what the heck are you doing here? :-)

> with no red or blue preference in mind, and the reality is that from the

LOL!

> gamer's perspective IncaGold games are not very good. As a gamer, I really don't care how much a game costs to license, only what it is like to play. Surely that is a gamer's only consideration?

100% agree.



> @Ben Yoris

>Are games of this quality better than nothing? That depends on your perspective. If you buy the best games available for the platform then the answer might be "yes", but if you only buy games that are worth playing then the answer would have to be a resounding "no"

agreed. I only buy games I want to play.
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 22 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 24-Apr-2003 01:20 GMT
Demo didn't work here either, on XP. I think I played it on ME at that time and worked ok then. It was even pretty fast on duron600 and GF2, if I recall.
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Posted by Skedaddle doover on 24-Apr-2003 03:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Ole-Egil):
2nd person shooter? W T F!!!

So that means, you'd be respawning all the time getting shot by the good guy who happens to be the lead character of the game? eh..
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 24 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 24-Apr-2003 04:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Alan Buxey):
(Not serious.) Nah, it's a meta thing. You know, the announcement and then the announcement about the announcement. (I need coffee.)
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 25 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 24-Apr-2003 06:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Darth_X):
Of course this not because a new game is released on the Amiga that everybody must buy it as a reflex, especially if the game is just good to block a bed...

But, between no games and a little something, I think we all agree on the fact that a little something is better.
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Posted by tonya on 24-Apr-2003 07:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Ben Yoris):
the best drive em up game on amiga the last years must be XTR , i still play it.. , lotus trilogy cd32 sucked bigtime...it had nothing new...i had em all on floppy ad they are identical to the cd version, wHAT A let down...

anyway if u consider wipeout 2097 as a drive em up, then ok...thats the best drive em up.... anyway i tested the demo of midnight racing and i must say...wow its good looking...but it didnt play well...handling was bad and so was the lifespan, hopefully some tweaks will be made here, anyway i hope hyperion still have that quality assurance on the stuff they release.

i dont have any doubts but i just wanted to make them aware that it wasnt as good that i had hoped for, but then again its a pc game :)

worms armageddon anyone ? :)
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Apr-2003 07:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Skedaddle doover):
Pretty much, yeah. Never played a 1PS you were really bad at? :-)
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Posted by Offensive name my s. on 24-Apr-2003 07:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Adolf Hitler Forever):
You're worse than sensorship in the Nazi-times, you ban use of words, you
can kiss my s.
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Posted by Christian Kemp on 24-Apr-2003 07:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Offensive name my s.):
The comment guidelines say: "Using Abusive language and swear words, or insulting other persons is not tolerated, and any such comments can be deleted with any further warning"

I'd say referring to yourself as a fan of a person directly and indirectly responsible for the death of several million people can be considered as abusive and/or insulting to a lot of people, and that's why I removed it.
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Posted by Lando on 24-Apr-2003 08:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (tonya):
Let's not forget that Wild Racing from Push Entertainment is due on 68k Amigas soon and is looking good.

http://push.nm.ru/products/wr.html
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Posted by Hans-Jörg Frieden on 24-Apr-2003 08:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Bill Hoggett):
> if anybody was to port Civ III, or Thief, Half-Life or DeusEx, then perhaps
> even though they are very old now that would bring some quality gaming
> to the Amiga.

I'll be the first to confirm that age doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the game. Half-Life however is an impossibility (it's not as if we didn't try). DeusEx is IMO one of the best games in existance.

In the end, it's a matter of taste if you like IncaGold's games or not. You obviously don't, but that doesn't mean they are low quality.
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Posted by A.H. Forever on 24-Apr-2003 08:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Christian Kemp):
Oh yea? Well, it makes me wonder why the communists, neo-communists and so aren't also banned/illegalized, as their idols are responsible for far more deaths than Nazi-Germany. Historical fact.
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Posted by krize on 24-Apr-2003 08:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Lando):
wow ! They are still working on it ?! Havent seen any updates on it ...

But it can be something special since their demos (push entertainment) have been very impressive (or intros 64k/40k/4k ..)
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Posted by Unbelievable on 24-Apr-2003 08:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Hans-Jörg Frieden):
Unbelievable, someone else likes Deus Ex. It is an historical release,
getting even the current version would be better than anything except
for Deus Ex 2.
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 38 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by WD on 24-Apr-2003 08:45 GMT
Offer total freedom and realism as what comes to interacting with the world and the objects within and you really have what made Deus Ex great, atleast in principle. Ofcourse this is easy to say, but hey, it isn't that hard to do, what's hard is to create a convincing non-linear storyline which actually WORKS, and by storyline I mean the development of the plot, the variety of the
flow of game cutscene's. I know what would kill everything, but no-ones doing it.
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 39 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 24-Apr-2003 08:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (A.H. Forever):
ANN is not the place for this kind of discussion.

If you don't like these rules, you're free to go elsewhere.
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Posted by tonya on 24-Apr-2003 09:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Lando):
lando: sorry but we froze that project, as i have said thousand times before, there is simply no market yet...might get opened back up when its better.

anyway wild racing was due for 68k aga/rtg/paula/ahi/ppc/and a1...

we stopped this projcect last summer and starter a smaller one called wild flying, but also this seems to have stopped, now we dont know what to do...
we will post some news when we have some specific info about it...

lets see if os4 comes soon...if it does....we might release.....
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 41 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 24-Apr-2003 09:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Hans-Jörg Frieden):
well i just discovered that incagold is infact black legends new name, they had a few good games on amiga, do a search on BTTR for more info about their team.

but hopefully this midnight racing game is better than what fatman the caped consumer was like :) , anyway i am sooooooooooooo looking forward to see this game on my amiga (midnight racing) as it does look great....
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Posted by tonya on 24-Apr-2003 09:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (krize):
kriz:well as u might know allready, we dont focus on website infomartion, we focus on giving out products, all we shared about wild racing was that it was put on ice until there was a better market, as too much money and time would have been put into it and only a mere 200/300 copies if we was lucky would have been sold.

thats why we started on wild flying instead, now we have 2 projects both is pretty much laid up and both is playable but wont be released for sure yet due to we lost motivation due to the vERY low sales expected.

a team of 15 people costs money to keep happy, easy as that....thats why we now are dooing gba and console versions of the games instead....well we are trying atleast...

lets just hope that our amiga future will wake up again...
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Apr-2003 09:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (A.H. Forever):
What? Karl Marx killed millions? Wow. I didn't know that ;-)
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 44 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 24-Apr-2003 10:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (tonya):
lando and kriz: btw the website is " www.push-ent.webhop.net " and not the ru addy, the ru addy is too slow so use the 100mbit connection istead its better and faster :)
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 45 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 24-Apr-2003 13:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Ole-Egil):
Well, it is a fact Communism (Marxism) is responsible for far more death's, then Fascism, whether you want to blame Marx for Lenin's implimentation or not is your choice.
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 46 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 24-Apr-2003 13:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (MIKE):
Actually, calling the Soviet Union a communist society is like calling Windows 3.1 an OS. They said it was, but in no way do I acknowledge it. There's gotta be more to being a communist society than just claiming a name.
Talk of Hyperion porting games to Linux on slashdot : Comment 47 of 70ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 24-Apr-2003 14:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Hans-Jörg Frieden):
@HJF

> I'll be the first to confirm that age doesn't have anything to do with the
> quality of the game. Half-Life however is an impossibility (it's not as if
> we didn't try). DeusEx is IMO one of the best games in existance.

Those were just meant to be examples of quality games, not suggestions. I realise licensing issues make porting some of them impossible.

> In the end, it's a matter of taste if you like IncaGold's games or not. You
> obviously don't, but that doesn't mean they are low quality.

I beg to differ with that premise. It suggests that all games are the same in terms of quality and that everything else is down to individual preference. That's like saying all books or all films are equally good.

I don't see things that way. For instance, I'm no fan of FPS games, and I must admit I rarely enjoy playing them, but I have enough perspective to be able to distinuguish between a quality FPS game and a turkey. The same goes for every other genre, whether it ranks high in my own preference list or not.

IncaGold games are not seen as mediocre because the people most vocal about them prefer other types of game. They are seen as mediocre because they're not very good. I don't expect anyone at IncaGold or Hyperion to agree, but then turkeys don't vote for Christmas. If I want to formulate an opinion on whether Windows is any good, I don't ask Microsoft.
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Posted by Ben Yoris on 25-Apr-2003 05:58 GMT
Honestly, I failed to see IncaGold games rated AAA in the press.

BUT, the effort is noble and, must I repeat myself, it's IncaGold games or NothingAtAll games.

And I failed to see NothingAtAll games rated anywhere !

This is maybe a beginning. After those 2nd class ports, we may get the chance to see some killer games, but old ones, coming back to the Amiga. After all, Heretic II, Shogo and Freespace, the first Hyperion ports, weren't 2nd category games.
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