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Posted on 26-Apr-2003 18:04 GMT by pixie254 comments
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Apparently, Bill & Raquel had recently confirmed on morphos-news.de that they had spoke with the new Amiga CEO Gary Hare. I've recently seen on morphos-news.de where Bill and Raquel had confirmed that they have spoken with Amiga Inc's new CEO Gary Hare, anyone would please confirm this...
New Amiga CEO : Comment 151 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 10:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 148 (SlimJim):
Beware of the IDEs of March (and Mai, but not April!) ;-)

...from Julius Caeser by William Shakespeare (and Alan Buxey).

We will get all this cleared up with Gary tomorrow (or later today if we can reach him). What we have presented here is exactly as it has been discussed with us.

What is the big fuss about? Amiga Inc. was headed for disaster. The main shareholders have stepped in and are now going to clean things up.

Sincerely,
Just Bill

P.S. I would not put much value in Fleecy stock right now either...;-) With the exception of Dean, Kevin and Sanjay and maybe Gordon, there will probably be a major house-cleaning.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 152 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 11:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
Dean Brown is definitely worth keeping. It is extraordinary that we have not seen any products based on his ideas.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 153 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (62.211.66.27) on 27-Apr-2003 11:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
Bill please provide proof, if it is true then you are the king of Amiga.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 154 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by fuck you (212.185.248.152) on 27-Apr-2003 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=430
New Amiga CEO : Comment 155 of 254ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 154 (fuck you):
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: Profanity
New Amiga CEO : Comment 156 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Gunne Steen (213.65.89.169) on 27-Apr-2003 11:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
Hi Bill :-)

Can't keep away any longer now... You are expression things in a very funny way..., please keep on posting so we know whats happening... and one more bucks for you now :-)

Have you opened the bag with the new present yet ? :-)

Happy Sunday !
New Amiga CEO : Comment 157 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (62.211.66.27) on 27-Apr-2003 11:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 155 (Anonymous):
Kemp give it a rest
New Amiga CEO : Comment 158 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (213.116.249.28) on 27-Apr-2003 11:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 138 (hgm):
> A big blow for Alan Redhouse. It leaves him empty-handed for the moment.

It could leave him without a guaranteed monopoly, but certainly not empty handed. Teron mobos wouldn't suddenly become worthless just because he could find himself competing with others.

But it's too early to say anything about this. The Hyperion management could acquire some acute brain damage which would make them want to stick to AInc's (well, Eyetech's, really) enforced licensing scheme idiocy, the new AInc management could be even more indifferent about what happens with AmigaOS than the past one, whatever.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 159 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by JurassicCamper (62.254.0.8) on 27-Apr-2003 11:14 GMT
Just like to point out that there is another company with officies both in america and germany. That share the "Amiga" Name. That being Amiga (Telecom).
Maybe Just Maybe, BBRV and his friend who knows a guy who just happened to be somewhere when a business card was given out at a meeting might just work for Amiga (The Telco), not AI.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 160 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Ted Theordore Logan (80.71.192.140) on 27-Apr-2003 11:15 GMT
The way Amiga Inc have acting in the past i really believe Bill Buck with this new CEO, if one provides proof then it proves the other person can not be trusted or respected in the Amiga community.

The truth will come out.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 161 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by mahen (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 11:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 159 (JurassicCamper):
LOL !
New Amiga CEO : Comment 162 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by KenH (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 11:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
Bill,

I hope for Amiga Inc sake you are lying.
I hope for your sake you are telling the truth.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 163 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (KenH):
Hi KenH, why would I lie about this?!

How can you hope for two different outcomes simultaneously?

Hi Gunne, tahnks for your visit. We were very happy to meet you! The contents of the "present" are still a secret!

OK, that is it for us for now...be back later!

Just Bill
New Amiga CEO : Comment 164 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by moood (213.66.43.61) on 27-Apr-2003 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
Then what about the value in Ray A. Akeys stock? Is he liar too? Do you really mean that two Amiga Inc. employees lie about there current CEO?
New Amiga CEO : Comment 165 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (62.42.228.20) on 27-Apr-2003 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (KenH):
> I hope for Amiga Inc sake you are lying.

Why? Do you *want* AInc to stay a laughing stock? I have a hard time seeing how things could possibly go any worse with another CEO.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 166 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Senex (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 11:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 164 (moood):
But AFAIK none of them is where the things are taking place, ie Ray being in Canada and Fleecy in Britain. It just would make no sense for BBRV to lie about this, while it could be possible that Ray and Fleecy aren't informed correctly by Bill Mc Ewen in case they all three aren't considered by the investors to be kept employed at AI as BBRV imply. So let's wait and see until we get some proof for the one or the other.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 167 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Crazy Man (205.214.203.138) on 27-Apr-2003 11:50 GMT
funny that this is posted as the A1 boards begin to ship in quantity.
I think that I will check it out with the CIA.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 168 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 167 (Crazy Man):
If you think Genesi is worried by the A1 you are thinking in very small terms.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 169 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (195.44.0.224) on 27-Apr-2003 11:54 GMT
http://www.hmkdesign.dk/BillBuck.txt
New Amiga CEO : Comment 170 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by moood (213.66.43.61) on 27-Apr-2003 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 166 (Senex):
To me it seems very odd that the CTO of a company isn't aware of who his CEO is. Wherever he may be located.

BBRV never seem to make much sense in his comments or statements. So I really believe that all this is a lie.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 171 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Crazy Man (205.214.203.138) on 27-Apr-2003 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (moood):
CIA thing that McEwan may be considering selling out
his stake for a "BUCK"
LOL
New Amiga CEO : Comment 172 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur (195.241.12.96) on 27-Apr-2003 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 167 (Crazy Man):
Yes, I also find it very suspicous that this weekend was chosen to talk about it while talks to Gary Hare happened quite a while back.

What I also find strange is why we are again having a discussion about something so serious in a forum again.

But, we will see in the comming days. All of this remains very strange.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 173 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 12:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
I hope you are right about that!
New Amiga CEO : Comment 174 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 12:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 152 (Don Cox):
> Dean Brown is definitely worth keeping. It is extraordinary that we have not
> seen any products based on his ideas.

I think it's extraordinary that we have not seen any products ... PERIOD!
New Amiga CEO : Comment 175 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (195.92.194.15) on 27-Apr-2003 12:08 GMT
Funny how this comes up just as Genesi make yet another U-turn about G4.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 176 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by KenH (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 12:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 163 (bbrv):
I don't know why you'd lie nor do I know why Fleecy would lie.I think you'll find that I'm "putting my money" on neither outcome. I'm stating what will result in the event of each outcome.

And yes...Mr Anonymous....I happen to think that Amiga Inc has done well to still be in business. Considering the current trend and the lack of sales. The removal of the owners wouldn't bode well for the stability of the company in the future.



>Hi KenH, why would I lie about this?!

>How can you hope for two different outcomes simultaneously?
New Amiga CEO : Comment 177 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen (81.29.32.150) on 27-Apr-2003 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 169 (Anonymous):
hehe...worth keeping :)

"are you an athlete, have you been a soldier? Have you ever faced the ultimate physical and mental/intellectual challenge of sports or a battlefield?"

man, buck is king :) atleast he thinks he is :))
New Amiga CEO : Comment 178 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (211.28.96.8) on 27-Apr-2003 12:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
>The main shareholders have stepped in and are now going to clean things up.

Since when has Amiga had shareholders?
New Amiga CEO : Comment 179 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (217.187.194.144) on 27-Apr-2003 12:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (catohagen):
>Im just not interessted in any of their products, but choosed the Real Thing instead :)) What about a Genesi A1000 revival party then? ;-D
New Amiga CEO : Comment 180 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 12:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 151 (bbrv):
> P.S. I would not put much value in Fleecy stock right now either...;-)

But ... but ... does that mean that we will see no more weekly announcements for the so called Q&A sessions at Amigaworld?
New Amiga CEO : Comment 181 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 12:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 178 (Anonymous):
> Since when has Amiga had shareholders?

Since the company was funded of course! Someone must hold the shares you know. It's not listed on any public stock exchange though, perhaps that was what you meant?
New Amiga CEO : Comment 182 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen (81.29.32.150) on 27-Apr-2003 13:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 180 (takemehomegrandma):
>But ... but ... does that mean that we will see no more weekly announcements >for the so called Q&A sessions at Amigaworld?

Buck made some new business cards and T-shirts and he's now the CEO of AmigaInc
(because it says so in the cards and T-shirts) and he hired Alkis Tsapanidis as new CTO (yes, there where arguments, but he gets some business cards and T-shirts of his own too)
and the Q&A sessions will be answered by Alkis starting next week.

Rumors say the new url for the Q&A sessions will be changed to BucksAmigaWorld.net but some quick searches reveal that no actions have been
made to secure the domain, so its reasonable to guess they will resume on
amigaworld.net
New Amiga CEO : Comment 183 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 13:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (KenH):
Hi KenH, why would I lie about this?!

How can you hope for two different outcomes simultaneously?

Hi Gunne, tahnks for your visit. We were very happy to meet you! The contents of the "present" are still a secret!

OK, that is it for us for now...be back later!

Just Bill
New Amiga CEO : Comment 184 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 182 (catohagen):
I would like to ask you to not use my name in such satires. Understood?
No smily or winkie here.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 185 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Burström (217.215.11.93) on 27-Apr-2003 15:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 183 (bbrv):
Why do you keep behaving like an idiot? I thought you were the CEO of a company.
In the normal world, this would be totally unacceptable for any representative
of a company! What do you think you are doing? If you think you are the savior
of people by 'leaking' false or misleading information you are on the border
of beeing charged with fraud. If you really think Amiga Inc is as bad as you
think, just let them be and let their actions speak for themselves. This is
so unprofessional I cannot believe it is true!
No Mai without April? Hm the AOnes shipping now seems fine
Performance problems with G4? Hm, none that I have seen.
The list can go on. Do the rest of us a favor and stick to your own business
like you once promissed a while back!

regards,
Stefan
New Amiga CEO : Comment 186 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by tonya (80.202.193.111) on 27-Apr-2003 15:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 184 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
i just got a very interesting email , i guess it will be posted within this week, just pack your bags and leave....that goes for everyone....
this is the end...

a small hint is: a big asteriod on the size of mars is heading for the earths surface, but i guess this is old news by now so please dont accept it as new news unless u dont want to talk about it.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 187 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (217.187.194.144) on 27-Apr-2003 15:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 185 (Stefan Burström):
>by 'leaking' false or misleading information

This remains to be seen.

>No Mai without April? Hm the AOnes shipping now seems fine

But Terrasoft and Tratechnology seem to think otherwise. :)

>Performance problems with G4? Hm, none that I have seen.

Maybe you didn´t look hard enough (also valid for G3).
New Amiga CEO : Comment 188 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 15:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 186 (tonya):
Brrr, now I'm shaking... Lol....
New Amiga CEO : Comment 189 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (217.215.11.93) on 27-Apr-2003 15:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 187 (Anonymous):
>>by 'leaking' false or misleading information
>This remains to be seen.
It is still leaking information in a way that is close to if not over the border
of illegal. Just because you happend to like or believe the 'leaked' information
doesn't make it usual business practice.

>>No Mai without April? Hm the AOnes shipping now seems fine
>But Terrasoft and Tratechnology seem to think otherwise. :)
Sure, but I suspect that your smiley indicates that you know the reason why
Terrasoft pulled back. Now I assume that you will let everyone know...
Or STFU since you obviously don't have a clue :-)

>>Performance problems with G4? Hm, none that I have seen.
>Maybe you didn´t look hard enough (also valid for G3).
Well, it works for the people who are using it. Don't you think that they would
tell you differently otherwise? Do you need the CEO of a competitive company
to tell you the truth? Or is he scared that the competitions products finally
are arriving to the marked? I can understand if Bill was scared after the
XE G4 board was announced but the way he acted was plain unprofessional.
Posting info about their G4 cpu card or the PegasosII would be perfect marketing
for him. Instead he was posting information he possibly could not have. And
you still beleive in the guy???
New Amiga CEO : Comment 190 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 15:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 185 (Stefan Burström):
> If you really think Amiga Inc is as bad as you think, just let them be and
> let their actions speak for themselves.

Their actions has "spoken" for years now ...
New Amiga CEO : Comment 191 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime (68.52.7.161) on 27-Apr-2003 16:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 181 (takemehomegrandma):
@takemehome,

I think he just means to play word games.
Obviously, if someone invested in the company, they purchased
some kind of share/ownership/control/and/or stake in the outcome of the company.

People don't usually just give money to technology companies for no reason.

I just wanted to AGREE with your post again, because during these types of discussions...I don't think those jumping in to play word games are helpful.

I know one thing, if Amiga, Inc. does have a new CEO, then it doesn't bode well at all, that he is definately in the anti-open communication camp...not even bothering to announce his own involvement in the company is a severe lack of communication...something a natural communicator would never do.

I hope that isn't the case, but if it is...well, you have to 'think different' to steal apple's phrase, to work successfully in this alternative space...if he doesn't then he probably won't be interested in this space either.

All mere speculation, but we know Bill Buck thinks differently,...communicates to a fault... even if he's a psycho at times. He is at least operating in this universe, a new CEO might not be.....

Personally I think a new CEO at Amiga, Inc. was very necessary, but its still a gamble...the new CEO could be even more hostile or indifferent (same thing) to this community.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 192 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime (68.52.7.161) on 27-Apr-2003 16:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 191 (MarkTime):
BTW,

LET'S ALL AGREE TO SOMETHING

Whoever is wrong on this one, their word is dirt!

No excuses from Fleecy Moss about how he was just as deceived as the rest of us.
No excuses from Bill Buck about a source being wrong.

They both made announcements. They both purported TO KNOW.
Regardless of their source, their word is only as good as their sources anyway.

This is a chance to bring the community back together.

Whoever is wrong about the CEO of Amiga, Inc.......is the LIAR and FRAUD.

(And I don't have any idea who is.....)
New Amiga CEO : Comment 193 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Jonny Johansson (217.210.162.217) on 27-Apr-2003 16:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 192 (MarkTime):
>Whoever is wrong about the CEO of Amiga, Inc.......is the LIAR and FRAUD.

Problem is, my dear fellow, that this is how I tend to view
the proponents of BOTH parties, regardless of this particular matter,
but as you say; we may well see... :7
New Amiga CEO : Comment 194 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Gunne Steen (213.65.89.169) on 27-Apr-2003 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 183 (bbrv):
Hi Bill !

Thank you, it was nice to meet you and all Nicolas'es and Emanuel's... and to see Genesi office as well, and of course Paris again also. All people was very nice.

Please let me know when you open the bag :-)

I will put together pictures somewhere we took of Mark, Nicholas etc working, if they dont dislike it of course. You can have the pictures if you want.

Now have a lot of work to do this week.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 195 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by tinman (213.122.8.193) on 27-Apr-2003 17:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 191 (MarkTime):
There's nothing stopping everything both Fleecy and BillB have said being true, just they've worded it differently (or got themselves a PhD in spin). As someone previously suggested, they may have this Gary Hare guy in line to start work as CEO from 1st May. This would mean BillM is still CEO now, making Fleecy's statement correct. But it may as well be that there is a new CEO, amking BillB's statement true. Hare wouldn't be able to say anything until he starts.

This whole situation is, however, a farce.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 196 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (217.215.11.93) on 27-Apr-2003 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 190 (takemehomegrandma):
>Their actions has "spoken" for years now ...

Soo? What does that have to do with anything?
Suppose Bill is more or less right? Then he has leaked corporate information.
That would be considered illegal if the company was traded on an open
stockmarket.
Suppose he is wrong? Well, then it just makes me even more sick of his business
practices.
No matter how it turns out, it is just rotten business practice. And if you
want to discuss Amiga Incs business pratices, please do that in another thread.
I don't aggree with everything they do either, but that is another topic.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 197 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur (195.241.12.96) on 27-Apr-2003 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 193 (Jonny Johansson):
>>Whoever is wrong about the CEO of Amiga, Inc.......is the LIAR and FRAUD.

>Problem is, my dear fellow, that this is how I tend to view
>the proponents of BOTH parties, regardless of this particular matter,
>but as you say; we may well see... :7

I don't but as somebody allready said; why does a CEO of a company come with this *news*( we will see in the next weeks) in a forum! Why at all.

That's where the problem is. It shouldn't have happened. There was no need for this. CEO's don't do this.

Untill proven otherwise I will stick to my first impression and that is that Genesi never ever thought that the AOne's would be available in such high numbers and the news of Vesalia and PointDesign starting delivery has made them a little nervous.

There was no need for this but to initiate another round of crap and buggery.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 198 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 17:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 197 (Remco Komduur):
"That's where the problem is. It shouldn't have happened. There was no need for this. CEO's don't do this."

They do in the computer trade. In fact there is nothing that computer company CEOs won't do. ;-)
New Amiga CEO : Comment 199 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma (Registered user) on 27-Apr-2003 17:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 196 (Anonymous):
It wasn't me who brought up the issue.
New Amiga CEO : Comment 200 of 254ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (217.187.199.98) on 27-Apr-2003 17:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 189 (Anonymous):
>Well, it works for the people who are using it.

Does it work good enough?
Is the AGP really 2X and why is the RAM writing speed only about half as fast as
a comparable Mac? Does every AmigaOne work good with 133MHz FSB?
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