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[News] False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEOANN.lu
Posted on 27-Apr-2003 12:29 GMT by Amoon (Edited on 2003-04-27 15:08:02 GMT by Christian Kemp)138 comments
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Fleecy Moss countered the unconfirmed rumours of factually reported news at certain websites to be false. You can read the statement made by Fleecy Moss at AmigaWorld.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 51 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by AmiMonkey on 27-Apr-2003 16:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Anonymous):
As far as I know the only thing people have not got so far is the t-shirt? Which if people are upset about that then fair enough, but in my opinion I wouldn't give a damn about a free t-shirt!

Wasn't the coupon actually for a $50 rebate on an amigaone/os4?

Ian
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 52 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 27-Apr-2003 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Graham):
"The statement by Fleecy appears to be quite simple. Bill McEwan is still CEO.

It goes on to say that he has three jobs within Amiga Inc, and that at some point in the future a new CEO will be brought in, but that isn't now.

So all in all, I can only regard Bill Buck's comments as lies."

If two people are telling contradictory stories, one or both of them are either lying or mistaken. Your conclusion is not logically correct: there are six possibilities.


"Remember - if Amiga Inc are doing so well as to require an extra person in management, then why wouldn't they want to at least put this fact on their website?"

The usual reason given is that the poor guy would immediately be attacked by people posting endless obscene emails, trying to hack into his accounts, etc.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 53 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by AmiMonkey on 27-Apr-2003 16:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Don Cox):
Six possibilities?

Elaborate please! :)

Ian
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 54 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Apr-2003 17:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (AmiMonkey):
No coupons or t-shirts have been delievered at all, so people should complain, plus 50 dollars of an AmigaONE is a load of shit, no Amiga companies will accept a coupon or give 50 less on a A1.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 55 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 27-Apr-2003 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
Its mystic meg back again! ;-)

You have to do better than that to win the jackpot.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 56 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by AmiMonkey on 27-Apr-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
Let's wait and see, eh?

Ian
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 57 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by JurassicCamper on 27-Apr-2003 19:28 GMT
Its amazing.

Or is it just a coincidence that in the same week that Eyetech start shipping G4 Amiga Ones and Hyperion start to advertise OS4, That all of a suddenly comes out... why ? Swing the focus of attention of this back to bbrv and genisi.

And get what its worked. He's got everybody talking about him.

Just wonder if bbrv suffers from an attention defisit disorder ?
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 58 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Apr-2003 19:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (DaveP):
Mystic Meg lol but seriously i have asked every company if they will do a 50 dollars rebate on a AmigaONE and all basiclly said no (in their usual long explanation way), so i have been ripped off or that is how it looks. email Eyetech and ask them then comeback and tell us what they said, yes correct they also will have no part in the coupon joke.

So if no one will do the $50 dollars of the A1 then the coupon idea has turned out the be the most disgraceful scam in Amigas history and i would like Amiga Inc to explain why.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 59 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by theone on 27-Apr-2003 19:29 GMT
@ BBRV :
@BBRV:

Hello,

As you can see from the reaction on many Amiga news sites, this
is not 'old news' to most people in the community AND people from A Inc. (Mr. Fleecy Moss etc.) say Bill Mc Ewen still is CEO.

This can be solved very quickly:

- Scan the business card showing the guys nam and the CEO title and put a link to it here and/or on ann.lu
(his telephone number and e-mail can be blacked out of course to protect his privacy).
Apparently, you got this card back in March and I guess - as any good business does ;) - you don't trow away important business cards.

This will only take 5 minutes and help *clear* the situation for the moment until A Inc. responds.

PS: Also posted on morphos-news.de
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 60 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by John Chandler on 27-Apr-2003 19:49 GMT
Yup, might be good to declare the proof of this alleged new CEO and settle the matter for everyone.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 61 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Ray A. Akey on 27-Apr-2003 19:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Graham):
"There appears to be a serious lack of logic operating from various people posting in this thread - those who are taking Buck's word over somebody who works and is senior within Amiga Inc."

There's only one explanation for this, Graham. Twisted logic and a misplaced sense of belief in the individual who is delivering what some might believe is the answer to their prayers.

It's simple, in this screwed up logic, the guy who delivers a product is the guy they believe.

So, everyone, let's wait for Joe Millionaire to create a software company, release JoeOS for x86, declare Microsoft a corpse and that Roger Rabbit is the new Microsoft CEO. I can guarantee you that there will be a basket full of people who will follow it and believe everything he utters, no matter how far fetched. :)
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 62 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 27-Apr-2003 20:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ray A. Akey):
> So, everyone, let's wait for Joe Millionaire to create a software company,
> release JoeOS for x86, declare Microsoft a corpse and that Roger Rabbit is the
> new Microsoft CEO. I can guarantee you that there will be a basket full of
> people who will follow it and believe everything he utters, no matter how far
> fetched. :)

Only one thing is sure in all this mess: in the end, either one of the involved parties will have to make HUGE apologies to the other one, for the amount of bad words that have come out of all this.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 63 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by derf on 27-Apr-2003 20:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (Fabio Alemagna):
>Only one thing is sure in all this mess: in the end, either one of the involved >parties will have to make HUGE apologies to the other one, for the amount of >bad words that have come out of all this.

show me the bad things AInc have been saying then? this little episode seems one sided to me.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 64 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Johnson on 27-Apr-2003 20:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ray A. Akey):
Amiga Inc have been exposed with the coupon scam, can you even explain why? you might fool people with your fancy talk but it looks more like you are involved in fraud as with your fellow workers, care to comment? also please explain why not one single Amiga company what is selling an AmigaOne will do a $50 rebate on the hardware as claimed by Amiga?

Please no more PR crap and see if you can even explain why the company you work for has ripped off hundreds/thousands of Amiga users
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 65 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 27-Apr-2003 20:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ray A. Akey):
Respect is something you can't get for free. It must be earned.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 66 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Velcro on 27-Apr-2003 20:19 GMT
Posted by BBRV ?

*LOL*
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 67 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 27-Apr-2003 20:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (derf):
> show me the bad things AInc have been saying then? this little episode seems one
> sided to me.

Look at the message I was replying to, for an example.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 68 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 27-Apr-2003 20:54 GMT
(Sigh) Why can't BBRV concentrate on their product’s merits instead of wasting time on other things? Are there insecurities in BBRV’s product?
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 69 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 27-Apr-2003 21:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ray A. Akey):
Yes, this is why many tend to believe Buck and co., they are delivering/showing up at the shows, getting T-shirts out, and have the backing of many of the long time Amiga devs out there, while Amiga has lied so many times, any reasonable person, would have to say in balance, Buck is a far more trustworthy source (although I've heard this particular statement from others for a few weeks now).
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 70 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 27-Apr-2003 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Fabio Alemagna):
what was the hard part here then????? , the post ray did...said nothing specific, except for pointing out bullshit without a proof, and thats what this post is all about.

i think that u will see alot more of this in the future if your boss keeps dooing stuff like this in the future, and your boss is beeing bbrv i guess.

so..what will you complain on next that is so bad that ainc must appologize for? , i can only see one person atm and he aint in amiga.inc, but then again i might not understand english afterall.

i have one line for you, WAKE UP and OPEN YOUR EYES!
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 71 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 27-Apr-2003 21:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (MIKE):
care to enlighten us on that then mike? , also how can someone change a CEO without announcing it? and how does an competetior find this out before the actual news flash? , and oh yes..how was this intended to be? , genesi buyout on amiga? , i have heard so much bullshit today that i think i will be offline for a month.

all in all i hope it will resolve fast, but then again it should have some hours back since fleecy allready answered to this + the yahoo groups concerning amiga ...etc .... have also aknowledged the FALSE rumour/oldnews ...
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 72 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 27-Apr-2003 21:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (tonya):
>as a footnote , the copuons states: WHEN os4 is ready doesnt it?

Fsck knows... they never actually sent coupons out. From what I've been told by third parties on forums we may have to buy OS4 first then send the receipt to Amiga Inc. This is the hard part, as Amiga Inc doesnt actually have an office to send it to.

Actually, I wonder if John Hindle of Lancs, England has received his free AmigaOne yet?

> , when u bought it...what did it say? , what was the email
>regarding this stating?

It said we'd recieve our coupons and T-Shirts at the end of the promotion (31 July 2002).

I bought coupon #300 or so.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 73 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 27-Apr-2003 21:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (AmiMonkey):
>Wasn't the coupon actually for a $50 rebate on an amigaone/os4?

No, it was for a "discount" off one or both. Rebate and discount are 2 different things. Discount is applied at time of purchase.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 74 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 27-Apr-2003 22:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (MIKE):
>Yes, this is why many tend to believe Buck and co.,
(CUT)
That would be an assumption on your part.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 75 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Apr-2003 23:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (tonya):
"how can someone change a CEO without announcing it?"

AInc is a private company. It can do anything it likes, and the only people who legally have any say or need to know are a few private shareholders, and members of the board - and in private companies it's not unheard of for things to be done even behind their backs.

You'll notice that the above list does not include: Fanboys who run web sites; Employees and contractors from foreign countries; Anonymous whiners
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 76 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by ABM$ on 28-Apr-2003 01:27 GMT
I've read lots of spin today and here are my guesses as
to what is going on here:

1. Love 'em or hate 'em, AInc/Bill McEwen owns the IP that
BBRV covets.

2. AInc is the object of a sort of "hostile" takeover by
BBRV based on hoped for pressure from ongoing litigation
and/or AInc investors and/or perceived weakness of AInc's
present finacial situation.

I thinks it's a gamble and can only hope that BBRV will
come up short. They seem to be trying to kill off a weaker
competitor with half truthes and inuendo.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 77 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 28-Apr-2003 03:20 GMT
Fleecy's answer doesn't surprise me - I've seen "information ministers" been making up crazy stories before :)

I guess that Fleecy and Co. would be much more interested in defending themselves against this if it was a lie. And I don't believe that they their weekends are computer-free.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 78 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 28-Apr-2003 04:52 GMT
What I find interresting is that this Garry Hare seems to be a veteran. It makes no sense to me why he should be trading in his CEO job somewhere else for a CEO job with Amiga.

He would not get paid what he is used to. These guys earn millions a year and that won't happen with Amiga the first severall years.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 79 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Apr-2003 06:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 78 (Remco Komduur):
Well not trade CEO. As Moss told Billy-boy has three jobs atm. I don't know in how many companies he is the CEO of.

And for the other Billy-boy, I sure hope you got backing for all this. Your hands are so deep in shit it'll take lots of soap to clean them ;-)

Me goes off for a beer, cheers mates!
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 80 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 28-Apr-2003 06:29 GMT
Ice cream, ice cream!
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 81 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 28-Apr-2003 06:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (tonya):
> what was the hard part here then????? , the post ray did...said nothing
> specific, except for pointing out bullshit without a proof, and thats what
> this post is all about.

You can't get it, it seems... the sole fact of calling BULLSHIT what one says calls for HUGE apologies if and when it's discovered that those things were not bullshit. Now, if you still can't get it, I'm sorry but I won't try to explain it further to you, because it must mean that you're just not able to understand it.


> i think that u will see alot more of this in the future if your boss keeps
> dooing stuff like this in the future, and your boss is beeing bbrv i guess.

LOL :) Talking about bullshit... First of all, BBRV are TWO persons, and ONE boss cannot be TWO persons; then, they/him are/is not my boss.

> so..what will you complain on next that is so bad that ainc must appologize
> for? , i can only see one person atm and he aint in amiga.inc, but then again
> i might not understand english afterall.

Oh, finally you got it... English is not for you, apparently.

> i have one line for you, WAKE UP and OPEN YOUR EYES!

Yes, sure... BBRV being my boss, right? LOL :)
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 82 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 28-Apr-2003 07:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Fabio Alemagna):
ok u didnt get it ? , i dont see any reason why to make a blowout when the word BULLSHIT was said towards bbrv , unlike what he did the against ainc, with the smilies and the "i am the man" statements etc...
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 83 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 28-Apr-2003 07:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 82 (tonya):
> ok u didnt get it ? , i dont see any reason why to make a blowout when the word
> BULLSHIT was said towards bbrv , unlike what he did the against ainc, with the
> smilies and the "i am the man" statements etc..

Care to translare that in English?
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 84 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 28-Apr-2003 07:48 GMT
As a general note, I just got an email from BBRV, with the alleged card attached to it. From that card, one can clearly understand that Garry Hare the the CEO of Amiga Inc.

Now, of course that card could be a fake, but why would BBRV do that goes beyond my comprehension capabilities, so my assumption - and ONLY my ASSUMPTION - is that that card is authentic.

Should it come out that the card is not authentic, I will promptly take back my assumptions.

Of course, if one wanted to be really paranoid, the fact that card is authentic doesn't mean that Garry Hare is really the CEO of Amiga Inc: he could just be "cheating". However, this is even more fictious than BBRV lying on this matter.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 85 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Apr-2003 08:43 GMT
Garry Hare sounds like a character from Nevernever-land anyway, sorry, couldn't help it :)

Harry Gare... now that name would ROCK.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 86 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 28-Apr-2003 09:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Fabio Alemagna):
How about you post the business card for all to see, and email Amiga Inc with it attached and ask if it is a valid Amiga Inc business card?
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 87 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 28-Apr-2003 09:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 86 (Graham):
> How about you post the business card for all to see, and email Amiga Inc with it
> attached and ask if it is a valid Amiga Inc business card?

The business card is property of Garry, not mine, and as such I cannot disclose it to the whole world without his authorization. In any case, I can't really bother to go trough all those hoops just to find out who's right about this issue: for me, it's enough to trust in Bill's intelligence to not spready SO blatantly false information.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 88 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by amighista on 28-Apr-2003 10:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Fabio Alemagna):
Fabio, do you remember the VisCorp affaire? For me, the fact that BB was behind this is enough to NOT trust him. ;-)
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 89 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by ptitkiwi on 28-Apr-2003 10:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Fabio Alemagna):
Hi Fabio,

I'm not an Amiga Inc or Morphos zealot but rather an old Amiga OS fan and I'm pretty disguted in the current situation.
On one side, we have Amiga Inc, a company that can't deliver T-shirts (they seem to have good reasons for that delay but I fail to see them...!)
On the other side, we have Bill Buck & MorphOs which reminds me the old Phase5 strategy (becoming the Amiga Os God god by eradicating all competitors). The last mails of Mr Buck explain his strategy. I find it pathetic : you can say "OK, that's business trying to kill competitor" but was the Amiga about that ? Wasn't a community and a brillant product ? With Genesis, I feel that we could more become like Microsoft (well that's a legal strategy ... but that wasn't what I wanted for Amiga).
What do you think about it ?

Thanks.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 90 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 28-Apr-2003 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (ptitkiwi):
> Hi Fabio,
>
> I'm not an Amiga Inc or Morphos zealot but rather an old Amiga OS fan and I'm
> pretty disguted in the current situation.
> On one side, we have Amiga Inc, a company that can't deliver T-shirts (they
> seem to have good reasons for that delay but I fail to see them...!)

They have a good reason, indeed, for what I know (If I'm wrong, please don't sue me, just let me notice): no money left for such things, because they all went into the legal battle.

People who are subscribed to the Amiga Inc news letter should know that, it's just "strange" that they don't talk about it.

> On the other side, we have Bill Buck & MorphOs which reminds me the old Phase5
> strategy (becoming the Amiga Os God god by eradicating all competitors).

If this "eradication", as you call it, is done by *producing* something and letting people *chose* the best one, I don't see any problem with it. Is it Genesi's fault if more people each day become Geneis's customer or wannabe Geneis's customer or just happen to like it?

It's not like they are forcing you to chose them in any way.

> The last mails of Mr Buck explain his strategy. I find it pathetic : you can > say "OK, that's business trying to kill competitor" but was the Amiga about
> that ?

Amiga has always been about that, since the beginning. This really *is* business, guys, the most clever one wins, that's all that matters.

> Wasn't a community and a brillant product ?

Sure, and nothing like that is left anymore. The community has gone long ago, the "brilliant" product doesn't shine that much anymore. This is true regardless of Genesi.

> With Genesis, I feel that we could more become like Microsoft (well that's a
> legal strategy ... but that wasn't what I wanted for Amiga).
> What do you think about it ?

I think that you're giving to a name more significance that it has. Amiga Inc is no more "amigaish" than Genesi is. They both have old school amiga programmers aboard, they are both producing an OS which is meant to be the successor of AmigaOS3.1, only taking 2 different routes. Amiga Inc happens to own the Amiga name, but that's all about it, and this is really NOT relevant, imho.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 91 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 28-Apr-2003 11:02 GMT
Then why the hell does Fleecy keep claiming Bill is still CEO ?!?

Has lost his mind ? ;)

I really don't get it... And I don't care ;))

Leo.

PS: And what's that banner saying "Majesty for AmigaOne" ? ;))
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 92 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Apr-2003 11:29 GMT
Leo, you are asking a very good question. Two questions in my mind I'd like to be cleared:

1) Why no-one at Amiga Inc. doesnt know (or doesnt want to say) that there has been a change of CEO, if that has happened indeed.
2) Why would Buck start something like this if he wasn't sure about it, after all he is a succesfull businessman. Inventing something like this.. and going as far as fabricating businesscards?

Of course there is always a change of misunderstanding, we are humans after all. But at this "level" Buck doesn't have too much room for such misunderstandings.

With shitload of interest I will wait what future brings us.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 93 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 28-Apr-2003 11:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (amighista):
Sure have seen a lot of hearsay blaming BBRV for Viscorp's failure. Much of it seems to be from people who didn't even follow the public part of what was going on at that time, and probably more intent the Scapegoat Routine. Here's what Jolyon Ralph, who is working on the Pegasos STB project has to say about it:

"...a quick word about the rumours about Almathera/Viscorp - a lot of things were said about the demise of Almathera and viscorp's part in it, some attributed to me, which were simply not true. If they were true I wouldn't be so happy to be working with Bill again, and I'm certainly happy to!"

I know for some people it is important to find BBRV guilty of something ... but the Viscorp situ was a lot more complicated than that, and BBRV was left in the lurch just as bad as anybody else, if I recall.


<--greenboy---<<<<
coordinator & facilitator-at-large
Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 94 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 28-Apr-2003 11:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Fabio Alemagna):
Fabio - the fact is Amiga Inc are quite clearly stating that their CEO has not changed, it is still BMcE. I will put this statement (from several of their employees as well, not just fleecy) above some vitriolic hate statement by BB.

And that is why I believe that BB has made a mistake, or worse, a deliberate FUD attack. Considering the other crap that he wrote in recent posts, and his general bad history, anything that he says is pretty much likely to be untrue (or a severe twisting of the truth), in my opinion. A Genesi without BBRV would be a much better and professional company, in my opinion.

Amiga Inc might be next to useless at PR and delivering stuff, but I really don't see why they they wouldn't want to announce this guy as a new CEO because the company is expanding, etc. Especially since this guy is apparently really good, etc.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 95 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by thone on 28-Apr-2003 12:10 GMT
I repeat my wish which I suppose would help a lot ot people out here given the hundreds of comments and each side denying:
_____________
@BBRV:

Hello,

As you can see from the reaction on many Amiga news sites, this
is not 'old news' to most people in the community AND people from A Inc. (Mr. Fleecy Moss etc.) say Bill Mc Ewen still is CEO.

This can be solved very quickly:

- Scan the business card showing the guys naem and the CEO title and put a link to it on ann.lu
(his telephone number and e-mail can be blacked out of course to protect his privacy).

Apparently, you got this card back in March and I guess - as any good business does ;) - you don't trow away important business cards.

This will only take 5 minutes and help *clear* the situation for the moment until A Inc. responds.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 96 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Apr-2003 12:49 GMT
@Graham

But they ARE letting the products to speak for themselves. beta-tester boards are shipped, things are happening in SW and HW front (bundle, pegasos2, g4-module for Peg1 etc.)

@szutoman

Welcome. Happy to take Gates's job as the most hated person in the world? :-)

@Bill Buck

Why? Why on earth do you post to these public forums? Concentrate to business, make deals, gets things going on, negoatite with rivals and companies interested, share ideas and plans about future on mailinglists we have. You have done an excellent job so far, don't let that be destroyed by something like this, which at its best is "only" the truth and will make you look bad in every light. And final request, when you're posting alone with your wife not present, let it be just "Bill", we don't want women to suffer for mens actions, right?

Wish I could spend a few hours with you in some sunny terrace, with cold beers. You're one of the most interesting people I have come across. Cold hard businessman with vision, still "something childliss" .. maybe fire of ambition burning inside you, eagerly sharing it out public.
Bill, you don't have to do so, just do your thing. Let your employees do the rest for you. And for gods name, hire a PR person or personal assistant... this is NOT good PR, I tell you.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 97 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Anon on 28-Apr-2003 13:21 GMT
Who cares as long as they ship AmigaOS 4.0 and a new motherboard, it all works and the company survives to provide support to the Amiga user base. I'm using a product I care if it works or not. I could care less who is CEO as long as that person gets the job done!
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 98 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 28-Apr-2003 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Anon):
"Who cares as long as they ship AmigaOS 4.0 and a new motherboard, it all works and the company survives to provide support to the Amiga user base."

The survival of Amiga Inc has nothing to do with the shipping of AmigaOS 4, which is being produced by a different company (Hyperion). The motherboards come from another company (Eyetech), who will presumably provide some support.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 99 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 28-Apr-2003 15:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Anon):
getting an 800mhz G4 motherboard to market at nearly $900 is not getting the job done, its incompetent buffoonery.

And don't count your chickens, Hyperion only will say OS 4 will be ready 'who knows when'...a $50 dollar web ad or even a $100 one (whatever it is), is not the same as being able to announce that emulation has been integrated...

Hyperion has not announced it is about ready, they have done every kind of thing BESIDES indicate that it is now ready.
False rumours: Bill McEwen Amiga CEO : Comment 100 of 138ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 28-Apr-2003 15:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Don Cox):
>>The survival of Amiga Inc has nothing to do with the shipping of AmigaOS 4, which is being produced by a different company (Hyperion). The motherboards come from another company (Eyetech), who will presumably provide some support.

The survival of Amiga Inc. has to do with a revenue stream, being solvent.
Among other ventures...OS 4 sales and sales of the AmigaONE are supposedly part of their revenue picture, they are licensed and would bring in revenue... and so those sales do impact the 'survivability' of Amiga Inc.

I think you meant the Amiga community is not dependent on Amiga, Inc.
Amiga, Inc. is most definately tied to Amiga OS 4 and the AmigaONE.
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