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[News] Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k)ANN.lu
Posted on 09-May-2003 14:57 GMT by Nicola Morocutti57 comments
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Virtual Works, Soft 3 and Bitplane magazine are demoing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) at the Webb.it show in Padua (Italy) An Amiga One XE G3 800Mhz with Debian Linux PPC and an Amiga 4000 with Os 4.0 beta are present and running at the booth of Virtual Works, Soft 3 and Bitplane. Also an ipaq with Amiga Anywhere is present and the last issue of Bitplane magazine is available. Attenders seems very interested about the Amiga One and the OS 4. Tomorrow Elena Novaretti will show her own Pegasos running MorphOS. We will release more info about the show progress (it will last until sunday) tomorrow.
Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) : Comment 51 of 57ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 10-May-2003 10:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Richi):
> Yes i know, but do you know the Murphy's law? There is always something that goes wrong, you have to do an hard ppc beta test too.

Mind you, of course there are tests on ppc, still, most bugs (and therefor most work) occurs on 68k. And obviously exec2 is debugged on ppc entirely.

> And if the beta stage is so advanced why don't show the "so advanced beta testet ppc version" in all his glory and kill my frustation!

As Hyperion already mentioned several times, they aim to make a best possible first impression when demoing - fair enough imo. Anyway, I can understand your being frustrated but theres not much to do about it except to ask for a bit more patience - things cant and wont be hurried.

> In my opinion a weekly status report would be definitely the best solution to keep confidence alive.

Well, maybe. Then again it would be weekly additional work, and all people involved are already working quite hard afaics.
Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) : Comment 52 of 57ANN.lu
Posted by zetaeffe on 10-May-2003 21:19 GMT
I've just come back from Webb.it (Padova - Italy), and
with my new AmigaOne XE G4

Virtual Works and Soft3 (the Italian distributors) are
demoing an AmigaOne (G3) with Debian Linux as usual.

They are also demoing an Amiga4000 with Powerup
running some modules of OS4. The exibithors told me
that they could have had more to show on the OS4
field, but in agreement with Hyperion they decided
not to show it as it's still "unstable" and they know what
kind of reaction could generate from the usual "detractors"...

So apparently there is nothing new on the OS4 showed
at Webbit... but looking with attentions there are
some really interesting advancements... just to make
an example I could see that the USB support is done
and working, also on the A4000: the A4000 had 2
keyboards and 2 mouse connected, the regualar
Amiga keyboard and mouse, and an USB keyboard and
mouse, and you could use them simultaneously, i.e.
type at the same time on both keyboards and use
both mouses.
Other things that are shown for the first time (I guess)
- the Internet connection wizard (meaning that roadshow
the tcp stack is also working);
- the amigaInput api configuration tool
- the new font utility
- the media toolbox to configurate hard disk, storage
media and so on (also on this topic they told me that
the Mount Rainier support for cd-rw is already working,
but they could not demostrate it there as the A4000
doesn't have a cd-burner)
- also interesting the AmiDock has a dockie that
shows an animation running "iconified" on the dock...
am not sure if it's sort of movie player that can play
avi or mpg also when iconified on the dock... still
interesting to see.

There were some other little thing that cannot remember
now, anyway the advancement on OS4 were noticeable
even if not obvious at first sight (and no big change on
the graphic interface design, it still looks like OS3.9).

I took some pics with my digital cam, but cannot
download them to this pc, as I don't have the cable
here... will try to put them online somewhere tomorrow.

As for the AmigaOne: finally got it in my hands, but will not
be able to work on it for 2-3 days as I hoped to buy
all the components (hd, ram cabinet and so on) together
with the main board, but unfortunately they didn't have
what I needed there, and also they forgot to take to
Padova the install and Debian linux cdroms... Enrico Vidale
of Virtual Works will send me everything as soon as
he's back to his store (Monday).

That's all for now, I'll get the pics ready for tomorrow
(probably will be on the QuantumLeap site)

Bye
Francesco
Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) : Comment 53 of 57ANN.lu
Posted by Framiga on 11-May-2003 07:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (zetaeffe):
me too!

I'm just come back from Padova and i've found my feets splashed into my shoes ;-)

Have a nice last day, guys!

Ciao
Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) : Comment 54 of 57ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-May-2003 20:01 GMT
@the hyperion guys:

It's great that you want to make a good first impression BUT... ppl nowadays don't care about "great", they want "good enough right now". That's why we use VHS instead of Betamax and Windows instead of anything else. Kudos to you for making the effort, but Buck's crew has an OS that is buggy and crashes but is here *now*. Buck understands business, Hyperion understands software. It saddens me, but I think Buck will win just like Bill Gates won...
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Posted by T Morris on 13-May-2003 02:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
** Hyperion ***
THank you for posting on this forum... I think the Hyperion guys will have major news coming up. I have a feeling Cyberstorm PPC OS4 is not too far away. That would be great news. Good luck guys :)

Also I am currently typing this on a Pegaoso g3 600mhz PPC computer running **MORPHOS*** 1.3 and it is VERY stable, use it on this LAN 14 hours a day.. almost NEVER crashes... I will be writing a comprehensive review on Pegasos and Morphos.. stay tuned.

magnetic
Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) : Comment 56 of 57ANN.lu
Posted by magnetic on 13-May-2003 02:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (T Morris):
I would also like to add that on this LAN as well is an Amiga Quickpak 4000T Cyberstorm PPC awaiting OS4 :)
Webb.it: showing Amiga One and Amiga OS 4 beta (68k) : Comment 57 of 57ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 13-May-2003 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
Could you name the bugs you're talking about?
It doesn't easily crash here...
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