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GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 1 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 14-May-2003 06:02 GMT
You must be kidding.

4 1/2 of 5 rating and 5 of 5 rating for games even I can code for my Palm handheld? With much better graphics?

Not to mention that no one would buy them if it was not the Amiga name. Have you seen some quality games lately? Or these were the first handheld games you encountered?
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 2 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by John on 14-May-2003 06:13 GMT
Proves yet again you can release any old crap with the Amiga name and get buyers who would only touch it because of the name Amiga, should have got 0 out of 5 and reviewed properly instead of a rigged review on a rigged website.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 3 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by SlimJim on 14-May-2003 06:37 GMT
Just accept this guy's having a different opinion than you. It's both paranoid,
insulting and fanatical (yes, fanatical on the border of stupidity) to
automatically assume some sort of "rigged" review has taken place.

If you buy and play the games (no, looking at a screenshot doesn't count) and
feel differently about them - then just post your own review.

Personally, I rather dislike crossword puzzles and word-searches overall. Not to
mention I don't have a PDA. But that's no no reason not to respect people who
happen to do like such games.
.
SlimJim
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 4 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Say NO to censorship on 14-May-2003 06:40 GMT
Without the Amiga name on the box would anyone seriously purchase such horrible products which are very expensive?

The Amiga name has been milked for far to long now and Amiga-Anywhere is a misleading name and it absolute junk which is badly associated with the Amiga name.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 5 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 14-May-2003 06:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (SlimJim):
@SlimJim

" If you buy and play the games (no, looking at a screenshot doesn't count) and
feel differently about them - then just post your own review."

I do disagree. When it's 5 out of 5 then even the screenshot counts. 5 out of 5 means it cannot be better, no matter what. The reviewer may have his own opinion, I just asked if he's kidding, and that were these the first handheld games he reviewed, as that could be an explanation. I've seen many handheld games of the kind, and judging from the screenshots the games which were rewarded with maximum point have a mediocre graphics. (No it's not even mediocre, but let's just assume it is)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 6 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Joson Helton on 14-May-2003 07:03 GMT
I would have to agree with the above comments because people would only buy such horrendous products because it has an Amiga logo on the back and the website is called GETBOINGED so that review should be ignored as it clearly is an Amiga fan website, wait till it gets reviewed by a website or magazine which is a normal mag what covers everything and i doubt it would even get 40% out of 100%.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 7 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 14-May-2003 07:42 GMT
IMO: Even though there are a lot worse games for PDAs, current AA games are (no more) earth shaking. (when Planet Zed appeared it might have been the greatest PDA game, but things evolve, fast)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 8 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 14-May-2003 07:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (John):
You people are so blind it's not even funny anymore. First you whine at them for selling their products through Microsoft, not even using their own label. Now this?
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 9 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 14-May-2003 07:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Joson Helton):
I guess someone is up for a suprise then... :-P
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 10 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 14-May-2003 07:58 GMT
What you should keep in mind are that some of these games were designed for the Zaurus deal, which meant very little storage space. What mattered was a game with good gameplay and suitable graphics. As a matter of fact the graphics for Blobula was designed by one of the top graphics guys in the demo scene and if you actually see them on a PDA they look very nice. There's a world of difference between looking at a desktop screen and actually seeing it on a PDA screen.

I haven't actually seen all of the other games in the pack, but I can assure you that the other game I tried (Word Search) is a _very_ polished product and really good if you're into that kind of game. I am not generally, but I still kept playing it again and again, just because it's really fun and well done.

It's also quite interesting that where people complain about the packs are on Amiga sites. Consumers they just buy them and enjoy them - generating revenue to create further DE and AmigaOS titles.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 11 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 14-May-2003 08:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Thomas Würgler/Pagan):
" It's also quite interesting that where people complain about the packs are on Amiga sites. Consumers they just buy them and enjoy them - generating revenue to create further DE and AmigaOS titles."

And that is good. Personally I have a palm and not a PocketPC, so I'm not an interested party concerning the party pack, just a surprised one over the ratings. Blame me for that.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 12 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 14-May-2003 08:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Thomas Würgler/Pagan):
"As a matter of fact the graphics for Blobula was designed by one of the top graphics guys in the demo scene and if you actually see them on a PDA they look very nice. There's a world of difference between looking at a desktop screen and actually seeing it on a PDA screen."

Blobula received

User Interface Rating: 4 out of 5.
Game Play Rating: 4 1/2 of 5.

in the review. It's not the 5 out of 5 I've mentioned. Personally I'd give it less, but it fits into the opinion differences. I can't judge the game play, as I haven't tried it. In short, not Blobula was my main concern. The blobula logo is even nice. Is someone from Getboinged care to explain what do the the ratings mean? If 5 out of 5 means "it's OK, I have no problems with it" and not "it's the best I've ever seen" then I accept the ratings. It's strange though, that then a game starts from the maximum, and if it's just OK it receives a maximum rating.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 13 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 14-May-2003 08:14 GMT
Hey let's port n-gate to AOS4... ;-P http://www.n-gage.com/
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 14 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 14-May-2003 08:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Emeric SH):
I see what you mean. If I were an independant reviewer I wouldn't even be giving our own game top grades. For me it has a very special zen-like quality though. That's all gameplay and not about the graphics and may well be me that's a bit nutty ;)

The things is that with reviews like these, the amount of stars mean different things. One site I'm writing for has 1-6 stars, where 3 is average, 4 worth checking out, 5 pretty damn awesome and 6 is when the jaw hits the floor. Compared to most titles of the same kind I'd objectively (as objective as I can get) give an allround character of 4. I've played it for hours and hours myself as part of the testing obviously, so I can vouch for the gameplay ;). If we were to do it all over again I would certainly have spiced it up a bit with more graphics etc., but we did it for the Zaurus and it's out now. For a game that's as old as it is I personally think it holds its head well above the competition (i.e. similar native products on the PocketPC - puzzle/action/gravity titles).

Obviously I'm somewhat biased, but still I hope my point gets across.

Oh, and I also use a Tungsten T myself ;)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 15 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 14-May-2003 08:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Emeric SH):
Fair enough.

The games really need to be seen in action to appreciate what's nice about them. Word Search in particular. It's just got an extreme polish about it. I just thought "wow!" when I tried it the first time. It certainly blows the native PocketPC titles of the same kind I've seen away.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 16 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 14-May-2003 08:33 GMT
I have to agree, I disagree with these reviews. These games may be fine in their own right, but given how big of a price/quality ratio they were given I just don't agree. Here are some PocketPC games for comparison:

http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?threadid=2578

http://www.kittpeak.co.jp/racingdays/index_e.html

http://www.3dhunting.com/pda/whitetail.htm

http://www.greatelsoft.com/products.htm

And more reviews:

http://www.pocketgamer.org/homeindex.php

You can see such simple games being offered for free, while much more complex games (3D etc.) are being given reasonable reviews such as 8/10 etc. This review from Get Boinged! just doesn't seem to be in any way comparable to other PocketPC games reviews I've seen...

The PocketPak may be just fine! But giving it so high scores... Well, it is the reviewer's opinion but I disagree with it.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 17 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 14-May-2003 08:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Janne Sirén):
On the other hand you will often see 3D games getting higher grades because of their flash factor, while games that are more fun to play get lower grades just because they don't impress so much in the visual department.

That's a general tendency that I dislike.

Out of the links that you just mentioned I have to say that Racing Days is indeed very impressive. We're talking PSX-quality (or better) graphics on a PDA. Metal Strike I hadn't seen before but it looks like my kind of shooter, so I'll take a closer look at that now 8) - The others didn't really impress me much, except that the first certainly seemed like an impressive engine for such a small device, but I prefer to keep demos and games separate. They're both more enjoyable that way ;)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 18 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 14-May-2003 10:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Emeric SH):
Now, you said that you can code games like that with better graphics. Now when you have said that publicly, would you please prove it to us ? I realy would like to see how "good" games you can write :) If you can't prove that then shut up.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 19 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Kelly Samel on 14-May-2003 10:30 GMT
3D does not = good game. Some of the worst
games ever made are 3D, in fact many of them
are. It's better to judge a game by how it
plays and feels than on the technology behind it.
I still enjoy playing several 8-bit games more than
some of the new 128-bit wonders that just aren't
fun to play. As a good example, the GBA has a
very entertaining software library based on
quality gameplay. I haven't personally played
any of the "pocket pc" games mentioned so can't
really comment on the quality of them though. :)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 20 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 14-May-2003 10:37 GMT
"Now, you said that you can code games like that with better graphics. Now when you have said that publicly, would you please prove it to us ? I realy would like to see how "good" games you can write :) If you can't prove that then shut up."

I don't have to prove that to anonymous posters, do I? Let that be enough, btw I've been involved in a few game projects, so I do meant it. If you cover the costs we'll gladly do some stunning games for the palm for you, if you want. But most obviously you won't or can't. So can you quit bitching without reasons?
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 21 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by koan on 14-May-2003 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Emeric SH):
Games don't have to have spectacular graphics to be good.
Look at Bomberman for example. The graphics are 1980 but
the gameplay superb. Heard of Tetris ? Did you ever play
Millenium 2.2 ? Graphics were good but basic. Amazing game.

In almost all reviews the world over the *total* score is
a summary of whether the reviewer recommends the product or
not. It is not a simple sum of all the other scores.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 22 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 14-May-2003 11:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (koan):
>>Did you ever play Millenium 2.2 ? Graphics were good but basic. Amazing game.

Damn, that was a good game. I hate to think how many hours (days) I spent playing that. That would certainly transfer well to a PDA...

And as for 3D games... Blaahhhh!!! Nothing beats the Civilization games (1,2 & 3)!!!!!
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 23 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 14-May-2003 11:36 GMT
Graphic definitely won't guarantee good playability, nor are they necessary to create a classig (e.g. Tetris).

But other than that, I'm really amazed to see members of the Amiga community downplay the significance of graphical excellence and complexity in games.

Sad, is this what "Amiga" has come to? Amiga used to represent the state of the art. And amazing graphics (for its time) were an integral part of it all.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 24 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by BCD on 14-May-2003 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Thomas Würgler/Pagan):
> What you should keep in mind are that some of these games were designed for
> the Zaurus deal, which meant very little storage space.
Hmm. the actual Zaurus have the same storage space as PocketPCs and it have a SD slot also. Where is the problem with storage space in comparision to the PocketPC?

Btw. On this site ( http://www.eongames.com/ )you can look how good Zaurus games can be. Especially Bust'em is one of the best Breakout clones I ever played.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 25 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 14-May-2003 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (BCD):
I can't remember exactly how much was available, but I believe we had to fit with several other games and not take up too much RAM. Remember that the first units had only 16 MB ram built-in.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 26 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anony on 14-May-2003 12:40 GMT
The page cannot be displayed?

What? I can't believe there's actually enough Amiga users to have a slashdot effect on a Website.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 27 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 14-May-2003 13:39 GMT
Wow, 4.5 and 5 out of 5!? These games must be the Deus X's and HalfLife's of the PDA games world! This shows the World that Amiga means quality.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 28 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 14-May-2003 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Janne Sirén):
> Janne Sirén (195.197.214.226) :
>But other than that, I'm really amazed to see members of the Amiga community downplay the significance of graphical excellence and complexity in games. Sad, is this what "Amiga" has come to? Amiga used to represent the state of the art. And amazing graphics (for its time) were an integral part of it all.

On a related front: even a year or two ago, who could have predicted that many people who at the mere mention of Microsoft were given to long angry tirades about the Evil Empire would be thinking it was a Good Thing to see the name Amiga associated with Microsoft? Indeed, the change of attitudes on this subject is of such stealth that it brings Invasion of the Body Snatchers to mind.

And the war we often witness here on ANN is not between Red Trolls and Blue Trolls - that's just a diversion :  } - in the meantime the Pod People will continue to attempt to assimilate those with Amiga mindsets until with a last whimper of "so drowsy...must sleep", they know the war is over.

And we will wake to a bright shiny day, content in our surroundings, knowing that all is right with the world! O Glorious Day!
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 29 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 14-May-2003 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Lando):
Well, when reviewed by an Amiga site, by a person without very much experience in this games market. Shockingly he came out with a *great* rating, please don't take it seriously, the PDA games market has *far* *far* better games available for it, and for pocketpc specifically.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 30 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 14-May-2003 14:03 GMT
I just have to say, Good graphics and 3D don't make good games.

example: I just bought a Sony Ericsson T68i (i know, old phone, but it's small and it got bluetooth). in that phone there is a game called "Q". i simply can't put this game down again, i've played true all the levels more than 2 times, but still come back for more.

Another good example would be Tetris, simple game but genius gameplay.

Btw: anyone played BounceOut on PocketPC. another game a simply can't put down, and the graphics Sucks.

On a PDA, games like Doom and Quake, RTS games and even shoot'em up games simply don't work well because of the controls, and i personaly like puzzle style games on a PDA better than any other gametype. a PDA is simply better build for these kind of games.

With that said, back to the review. Nice review, but as others have mentioned, the scores do seem a little high. but i haven't tried the games so i wouldnt really know (Trez, send me a copy :-) )
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 31 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 14-May-2003 14:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (greenboy):
"Indeed, the change of attitudes on this subject is of such stealth that it brings Invasion of the Body Snatchers to mind."

No body snatchers, just the fact that most people that scream about microsoft being evil have no idea and fail to deliver any valid reasoning for their bashing other than "Because Microsoft are bad". These people have such a slim basis for their bashing that they can easilly change their attitude on the subject without anyone noticing.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 32 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 14-May-2003 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (corpse):
You wan a (more recent) reason to call M$ evil? How's WindowsME for one? ;)

Cheers,
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 33 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 14-May-2003 16:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (corpse):
Exactly, so much time has passed that MS has made an OS that doesn't totally blow....which is why they were bad in the first place wasn't it...oh that and their underhand practices, but they are good boys and girls now. ;)

Regarding Amiga always being cutting edge. In the PDA world, that doesn't always count. I'd prefer a fast loading, good gameplay, average graphics game on the PDA anyday.


>No body snatchers, just the fact that most people that scream about microsoft being evil have no idea and fail to deliver any valid reasoning for their bashing other than "Because Microsoft are bad".
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 34 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 14-May-2003 16:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (KenH):
"Exactly, so much time has passed that MS has made an OS that doesn't totally blow....which is why they were bad in the first place wasn't it...oh that and their underhand practices, but they are good boys and girls now. ;)"

I never said Microsoft was good, just that alot of people that scream about them being evil only have paper thin arguments. Microsofts OS's blow but theres a difference between saying they blow "because they blow so there" and "they blow because they're expensive, insecure and fall to pieces after small amounts of install and uninstalling software" ;)

I also love all the Microsoft Myths(TM); if all the paranoid idiots and films like AntiTrust are too be believed Bill Gates is going around personally assignating his competitors and rivals, Ha!
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 35 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 14-May-2003 16:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Amon_Re):
"You wan a (more recent) reason to call M$ evil? How's WindowsME for one? ;)"

Because you don't like it is no reason to brand something as *Evil*, Its not like microsoft are holding a gun to your head! Use your right as a consumer to have a choice and choose something *you like*, simple as that.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 36 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by NihilVor on 14-May-2003 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Lando):
I find myself disagreeing with most of these comments. I would never actually buy the game pack (as I don’t use handhelds) but this is one of the most intelligent package jobs by Amiga. If you’re only into 3d shoot up games, this is not for you. However, there are many people who appreciate word games. I have a friend who does nothing but play Yahoo Literati all day long; she would never sit down in front of a 3d game or an RPG, but this is something she would snatch up—something that she would find essential. Amiga has finally realized that game packs have to have games that appeal to a particular user, or there is no reason to throw them together on a card. Makes perfect sense to me. In reviewing such software, you have to keep in mind the type of user who would buy it in the first place, so the review is not that far off base.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 37 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by ArcWave on 14-May-2003 17:20 GMT
This is getting too silly.

Check the review, *I* do not rate the "Graphics" or "Sounds" period. I do mention that they can be done better.

Rating scale (yes, based on what I've seen thus far)
1 - Just plain sucks
2 - Below average
3 - Average
4 - Above Average
5 - Excellent (not perfect, as all things can be done better!)


I based the ratings on the "User Interface" (Controls, Usability, Function, Layout) and "Game Play." I omitted the graphic and sound ratings since these aren't First Person Shooters, Arcade coin-op remakes, RPGs, Sports Games, etc. They are reviewed for the genre they are targeted for. It would be like me rating say "Calculator" found in MS Windows and say, "Graphic wise I give it a 1 out of 5. It needs 3D spinning digits, ability to literally blast the values and matrix style display of the numbers." If I were to include the graphic and sound ratings, those ratings especially sound would be 3 or less for all the games.

I will include more descriptive rating information in the next review. I did not mean to mis-lead anyone.

If I were to review say a shooter, it better have good graphics, sounds, user-interface and game play. Swiv on the Amiga Classic beats most shooters I've seen hands down. http://www.classicgaming.com/amigareviews/swiv.htm

To clear up what seems to be a major mis-conception:

GetBoinged does not recieve any funds for doing any reviews, nor for advertisements. I did e-mail Amiga Inc to let them know about the review, but they have no influence on the ratings, nor do the developers period.

We run the website for free and for fun. We pay for the website by ourselves, we receive no outside help period.

Personally:
I will try to be more complete in my next review, but I am very busy developing content for Intent (AmigaDE compatible) -- mainly games (4 in development), running GetBoinged, working a full-time job too, getting married, etc. We aren't making board games, card games, as I personally prefer arcade games.

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GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 38 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 14-May-2003 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (corpse):
I'm not sure, but I get the impression you think I was disagreeing with you lol And I also agree with what you said in this comment.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 39 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 14-May-2003 19:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (KenH):
"I'm not sure, but I get the impression you think I was disagreeing with you lol And I also agree with what you said in this comment."

Ah, I thought you were being sarcastic or something ;) sorry.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 40 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 14-May-2003 20:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Thomas Würgler/Pagan):
Oh please - 16MB is plenty!

My Zaurus currently runs with 64MB of RAM and more than 700MB of storage.. 16MB writable internal flash, 256MB SD "system disk" with my own setup on, and a 512MB CF that I replace with wlan and bluetooth card every now and then.

And I have yet to see AmigaAnywhere on it - not that I havent tried finding out what it takes to actually get ones hands on it.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 41 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 14-May-2003 20:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (ArcWave):
Making games huh?

Gimme a pinball and Lemmings on my Zaurus and I'll be happy :)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 42 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Ray A. Akey on 14-May-2003 20:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (ArcWave):
Thanks for the good review ArcWave and thanks for being fair and not letting impertinent details affect or sway your review.

Keep up the good reviews, on all products, not just Amiga's. :)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 43 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 14-May-2003 21:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Kolbjørn Barmen):
>Oh please - 16MB is plenty!

People seem to forget PSX had only 2MB RAM and a 33Mhz CPU, and managed plenty games a LOT more polished and technically advanced that what we've so far seen on AmigaDE. Sure the PSX had some decent (for the time) graphics hardware too, but then the average entry-level PDA has 200Mhz CPU to play with.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 44 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by whynot on 14-May-2003 22:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Lando):
>People seem to forget PSX had only 2MB RAM and a 33Mhz CPU, and managed plenty >games a LOT more polished and technically advanced that what we've so far seen on >AmigaDE. Sure the PSX had some decent (for the time) graphics hardware too, but >then the average entry-level PDA has 200Mhz CPU to play with.

there is more to preformance than just CPU speed :), most arcade games only use 68000 cpu's, games like NBA jam, used a 68000 (7Mhz I think, been a while since I repaired one) and off the self Ti graphics chip, yet NBA jam run like shit on my 350MHz P II PC with 200MB ram runing Linux/mame. ;)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 45 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 14-May-2003 22:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Emeric SH):
"I don't have to prove that to anonymous posters, do I? Let that be enough, btw I've been involved in a few game projects, so I do meant it. If you cover the costs we'll gladly do some stunning games for the palm for you, if you want. But most obviously you won't or can't. So can you quit bitching without reasons?"

No, YOU made the claims, so it's INTIRELY UP TO YOU to PROVE it! Otherwise you look like a whining 10 year old. And so what if someone posts anon!
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 46 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Amigisti on 15-May-2003 06:30 GMT
WOW, YOU CAN ALSO PREVIEW RACING DAYS FOR 30 DAYS before buying.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 47 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 15-May-2003 08:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Emeric SH):
I'm not anonymous, so why don't you prove it to me? ;-)
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 48 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 15-May-2003 08:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Darrin):
EEEEEEEK.

I wholeheartedly agree. I play Civ 3 all the time. It's actually the only game I play these days.
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 49 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-May-2003 08:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Emeric SH):
>4 1/2 of 5 rating and 5 of 5 rating for games even I can code for
>my Palm handheld? With much better graphics?

Why haven't you then?

>Not to mention that no one would buy them if it was not the Amiga name.

And why is that most CompUSA stores are sold out, Microsoft is preparing another batch and other chains want them too?

As usual people on ANN talk out of their as**s
GetBoinged reviews Amiga Games Pocket Pak #2 : Comment 50 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler/Pagan on 15-May-2003 08:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Lando):
>People seem to forget PSX had only 2MB RAM and a 33Mhz CPU, and managed plenty games a >LOT more polished and technically advanced that what we've so far seen on AmigaDE.

What you're forgetting is that on the PSX you have dedicated hardware to handle a lot of things - much like on the Amiga. You also have a CD to store your games on. The games wouldn't certainly have been more impressive with 16 MB of RAM, but it's the 650 megs of data on the CD, that makes it possible to have all those graphics around, load them up into memory when needed etc.

If you want a look at further details which may help explain why things aren't as simple as that, have a look here: http://members.tripod.com/~videogamereview/psx/specs.html

As far as I can recall (it's been some time since the Zaurus days), the reason for the small size was that they should be downloadable and be possible to store in the on-board ram - that is the 16 megs that hold both applications, data (and as far as I can recall runtime ram).

Since we're not aiming for that any more, our next game will contain a lot more graphics =)
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