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[News] E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4ANN.lu
Posted on 31-May-2003 15:57 GMT by Michael Böhmer10 comments
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E3B and Hyperion Entertainment are pleased to announce that both companies are cooperating to ensure that E3B's ALGOR and ROMulus flashroms are properly supported by the upcoming AmigaOS 4.0 developed by Hyperion. Read the whole press statement on E3B's news page.
A German version of this press statement is also available.
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 1 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 31-May-2003 14:57 GMT
This is good news for any one with, Zorro sluts, well think the ALGOR thing look like something really unsafe, how do you mount the card with out it falling out when you are moving the computer.
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 2 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 31-May-2003 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Kjetil):
Like the Pegasos CPU slot, the zorro slots hold the card tightly in,
it's NOT so easy for it to fall out.
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 3 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 31-May-2003 16:47 GMT
Stupid question, but does A1 include kickstartrom in motherboard flashmemory or is it loaded from harddrive?
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 4 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 31-May-2003 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
It runs the PPCBoot/UBoot software from a FlashROM.

However it will probably load all of OS4 from hard disk. These days there's
no point putting any code in ROM since it's always going to need updating
and it's not like you'll be loading from floppies :)
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 5 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 31-May-2003 17:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Neko):
Hey Michael Böhmer, next up is firewire support? :-)
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 6 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Elwood on 31-May-2003 19:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Neko):
Did you flash a PC bios ? It should be possible on the A1 too...Note that I don't say it is a good solution. I don't know...
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 7 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by mayonaise on 31-May-2003 19:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Elwood):
"Did you flash a PC bios ? It should be possible on the A1 too...
Note that I don't say it is a good solution. I don't know..."

You could put the kernel and other core funtionality into the flash rom on a motherboard (LinuxBIOS are doing this with x86 boards ) but it makes more sense to bootstrap the board from a cheap from of media like a hard drive instead of using huge and expensive flash eeproms.
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 8 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 01-Jun-2003 07:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (mayonaise):
There are always advantages to putting it in ROM - AmigaOS 4.x's prime
cause would be to "dongle" AmigaOne versions, but since they control the
firmware anyway, there's no point in this.

But with this USB card flash ROM, it attaches the kicktags and so on as part
of AutoConfig, so it can kick up AmigaOS 4.x from there, before the real Amiga
ROM OS (3.0, 3.1) starts up. This would give you the slight advantage of, say,
booting CDs which utilise AmigaOS 4.x which wouldn't be possible if you had
to load the OS from hard disk.

I'm sure Hyperion would love to be able to make "console" style games this way,
so you place a CD in the drive, turn on, and play.. a prime candidate for a
feature for Eyetech's supposedly upcoming MicroATX Teron design that Alan
likes to call "CD32 Mk-II".

(there are always ways of kicking up the OS from hard disk while booting from
CD, I'm sure they'd have done it on the X-Box if only they didn't think the
entire thing would be totally unreliable for an MS OS and a roughly-treated
console :)

Of course if you screw up the flash process you ALWAYS have a system (albeit AmigaOS 3.x) to reflash the ROM from, or perform another way of booting AmigaOS 4.x (from hard disk).

With the AmigaOne, if you screw the firmware, your board is *dead* and will
probably want to be sent back to Eyetech. I don't think the feature above
would be worth it if it meant they got a lot of "fixit" returns. Maybe they
should implement a safeguard BIOS like Gigabyte do?

Neko
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 9 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Böhmer on 01-Jun-2003 13:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Kjetil):
Hi Kjetil,

I don't get the point. The Zorro slots will keep even "short" cards like the ALGOR safely in place. If you manage to get them loose by only moving your computer, then two things are possible: a) your slots are loose like hell, and then even fixing the card with a screw won't help with the loose electrical contacts, or b) you dropped your computer out of the window in the second floor, so screws won't help either ;)

Just kidding, but even in my A2000 which is used dor testing all produced cards the slots are still tight enough, after HIGHWAY, ROMulus and ALGOR production, so just relax :)

Michael
E3B and Hyperion: ALGOR / ROMulus FlashROM supported by Amiga OS4 : Comment 10 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 02-Jun-2003 06:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Michael Böhmer):
Well, if the 2000 isn't in a tower, it has the advantage of gravity helping the situation :)

In my 4000 tower, I have a Power Flyer Gold, and a Repulse, (and soon an Algor, too :) and neither of them show any signs of falling out.
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