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[Web] CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered!ANN.lu
Posted on 01-Jun-2003 13:10 GMT by Seymore Butts65 comments
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On June 1st, Amiga published the latest installment of the ongoing Club Amiga Monthly series. In this update, CAM sports features like the new version of AmigaDOS, AmigaOS 4.0 progress and more.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 51 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 02-Jun-2003 12:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
Should we take about things that exist like the Amiga500 or the C64, this is not the retro forum you know.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 52 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jun-2003 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Don Cox):
I don't see how the articles on CAM are advertising material. Under the same light I guess you refuse to buy newspapers because it's the same thing.
Oh, have you ever purchased a computer magazine (like PC world or PC Magazine) over 50% is advertising and yes, you are paying for those pages too.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 53 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jun-2003 12:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Anonymous):
>MacOS X 10.3 is coming along nicely, in beta. Watch for more news this month.

Oh, that's easy then...
Windows LongHorn is coming out nicely in beta... it even leaked on the net

So....? You can play that game with any OS.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 54 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 02-Jun-2003 12:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
Sure, I intend to pirate something I've already prepayed $100 for... *sigh*
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 55 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-Jun-2003 13:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Anonymous):
"I don't see how the articles on CAM are advertising material. Under the same light I guess you refuse to buy newspapers because it's the same thing.
Oh, have you ever purchased a computer magazine (like PC world or PC Magazine) over 50% is advertising and yes, you are paying for those pages too."

Articles announcing the clever features of a future product are advertising.

I get (for some forgotten reason) a fat magazine from Mercedes full of articles about new and forthcoming technology in their cars, and how user-friendly and environmentally friendly they are going to be. It is exactly the same kind of information.

The "Amiga World" web magazine was the same. It all enhances the company's image as a leader of technology, which most companies like to be these days.

In a PC magazine that you buy, the editorial is not written by Microsoft or Dell employees.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 56 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 02-Jun-2003 14:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Don Cox):
So, facts like that the sources now has been made to work with GCC rather than SASC is advertising? No, that is "behind the scenes information" that will not effect the sales of their product in any way. Please note; that was 1 example out of many.

Don, please realize that if their intentions was only about advertising, they would of course make it available to everyone for free. Why would they intentionally oppose their own cause? It doesn't make sense.

As a customer, you already have the information you need. It's free and available to everyone here: http://os.amiga.com/os4/

If you are a "geek" that wants to know more about what's going on behind the scenes, sign up for a club membership. I really don't see the problem here.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 57 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by CaptainFrank on 02-Jun-2003 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Raffaele):
> And if you prefer to use the name "C:"
> as I STRONGLY THINK YOU ARE USING TO...
> then you can ALIAS it "C:" and use this name in parallel with "HD0:"
> or "DonaldDuck:"
> AAAMAZING ISN'T IT?

I don`t think you can alias C: acutally Raffaele, and if you can, then you shouldn`t.

AmigaDOS uses C: as the commands directory. It points to SYS:C, SYS: being whichever disk you booted from and C being a directory in the root of that disk.

This could seriously upset AmigaDOS, if I typed C: in a shell (as you said) should AmigaDOS take me to hd0: or sys:c ???

*STOP PRESS*

I`ve just checked it. After you define and alias with the name C: everything else in that shell would then address the alias instead of the Assign. This could cause problems (such as "unknown command"), but for some reason doesn`t!

AmigaDOS is obviously smart enough!


Regards,


Frank. (I still think you shouldn`t do it though! :-) )
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 58 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Jun-2003 17:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (CaptainFrank):
It doesn't cause it looks in both C: and SYS:C/... Take a look at the path
command in the S-S. You can change the C: assign if you want to something else
but this will upset many scripts and hardwired programs.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 59 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-Jun-2003 17:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (samface):
"So, facts like that the sources now has been made to work with GCC rather than SASC is advertising? No, that is "behind the scenes information" that will not effect the sales of their product in any way. "

Of course it will. This is part of the "we are seriously updating the OS" story. The updating is what they are selling.

The alternative products are Amithlon or Amiga Forever. I need a lot of convincing that AOS 4 will be so much more up to date and technically superior that it will justify buying a whole new and expensive computer. So would anyone who doesn't have money to burn.
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 60 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 02-Jun-2003 21:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Don Cox):
>In a PC magazine that you buy, the editorial is not written by Microsoft or >Dell employees.
What about the official MS Windows XP magazine?
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 61 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by hammer on 02-Jun-2003 22:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (hammer):
@Don
To prove that an 'official Microsoft Windows XP magazine existence refer to
http://www.windowsxpmagazine.co.uk/magazine/

Other 'official' magazine is the 'Official Australian PlayStation 2' magazine.
Both official materials have to be paid by the consumer. But with Microsoft, materials covered in the official magazines does exist for free i.e. in their knowledge website**(you have search for it) and Window’s auto update feature. You pay for the convenience** and presentation (targeted for different users and skill levels).

Amiga Inc/Hyperion’s CAM is just a scaled down version of the mainstream official platform magazine. IF the market size gets larger, an official AmigaOS magazine would be nice (i.e. includes official hint & tips, official service patches, official demo product releases, product review from the official perspective, official comments (about the industry and their products), official QnA, power point lectures, official interviews and third party contributions).

IF the mainstream users find this Microsoft/Sony official magazine practise acceptable, why not AmigaOS users?
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 62 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Jun-2003 04:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Don Cox):
Ok, they ARE opposing their own cause and taking charge for advertising to their customers. Whatever fits your distorted view of the reality, Don. Whatever...
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 63 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Jun-2003 04:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (samface):
It's funny though, I must be a real idiot that pays for this advertising. Even worse; I'm a satisfied customer!
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 64 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jun-2003 06:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (samface):
"Even worse; I'm a satisfied customer"

You are?

Excellent!

So tell me spamfface, where is your copy of AOS4.0 for which, as you stated in another thread, you have paid $100?
CAM June Edition Released, AmigaOS 4.0 details uncovered! : Comment 65 of 65ANN.lu
Posted by samface on 03-Jun-2003 10:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Anonymous):
No, I said *pre*payed for. That's what you do if you want to support a product that is still under development.
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