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[Web] Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696ANN.lu
Posted on 11-Jun-2003 12:15 GMT by Rik Sweeney25 comments
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Slashdot has an article about the AmiZilla porting effort.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 1 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 11-Jun-2003 10:20 GMT
Funny comments as usual...
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 2 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2003 10:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (priest):
But not negative comments at all.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 3 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 11-Jun-2003 10:38 GMT
I agree with the one comment regarding porting KHTML or GRE instead of Mozilla.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 4 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 11-Jun-2003 10:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (priest):
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=67217&cid=6169785

lol!
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 5 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Jope on 11-Jun-2003 10:53 GMT
1) post amiga related news on slashdot
2) notice in dismay that everyone thinks Amiga == unexpanded A500
3) think about posting lots of replies that educate the public
4) come to your senses
5) go back to sleep
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 6 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 11-Jun-2003 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Darth_X):
Booty call for $3696. Volunteers?
:-D
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 7 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by cv643d on 11-Jun-2003 11:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (takemehomegrandma):
I am just curious is there anyone at all in progress right now trying to port Mozilla to Amiga?
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 8 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2003 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (cv643d):
Educated guess:

No.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 9 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 11-Jun-2003 12:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
Your properly right, But i do recall someone mentioen recently (like 4-5 days ago), that i was currently Alpha/Beta testing a mozilla port for Amiga.

So the Answer might be, Yes- Someone have something working.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 10 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 11-Jun-2003 12:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Lasse Bodilsen):
Doh! not "I", but "He" was currently testing it.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 11 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 11-Jun-2003 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (cv643d):
I am in progress on a port of Mozilla to Amiga, but not in progress on entering this contest.

yes, the contest inspired me, but I don't care for the rules or fighting over it.

I will just do an independent effort, someone else can compete for the booty.

Currently I am fighting with the person I purchased the Amiga with, because he said it had a scan doubler, and in fact, it did not only a 23 pin to 15 pin convertor, and that just ticks me off.....can't a person expect to get what is sold...he said 'scan doubler'...it doesn't double the scan...annoying, and worse....I want to test my work on a real amiga...AF doesn't do everything I need, though obviously I do some of the work in AF on my blazingly fast 1.3GHz celeron...heck it is fast compared to the miggy.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 12 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 11-Jun-2003 13:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Graham):
Using KHTML from the Apple Webcore is one thing we're investigating right now.

Henrik Mikael Kristensen
AWeb Development Team
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 13 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 11-Jun-2003 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
Just a question to AWeb Development Team:

What have you actually managed to do, other than drawing management charts and rebuilding the existing source? Any real improvements?
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 14 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Mayonaise on 11-Jun-2003 13:54 GMT
Woo! it got posted :) (it was my doing ;)) ..

Reasoning: There are plenty of (ex)Amiga users/coders hanging around the Linux channels, so Ithought some might be interested in A: Donating B: Coding ... Beer money always comes in handy :)

Maybe the kid that lost his savings to the RIAA will be interested? ;)
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 15 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 11-Jun-2003 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Anonymous):
Much of the work is currently investigating, investigating and more investigating. :-) Things could move along alot faster, if people were seriously interested.

The javascript engine from Mozilla has been ported to AmigaOS 68k and made independant of ixemul.library. It runs javascripts perfectly, but isn't integrated into the browser. We're not even sure if we want to use it yet as it all depends on how easy it is to integrate it. If you have a solution, join up as a developer. :-) We could use some...

Being an open source, non-profit project gives you only so much motivation from developers. Most of us have other work to do as well.

Why not participate directly in this financing of development?

The AmiZilla project encourages a direct port of Mozilla, which we think is silly, because it's resource hungry as a whole and doesn't give other people advantage in the Gecko engine in the form of a library, which the AWeb developers want.
This way we don't only get a kick ass browser, but a kick ass HTML-engine that everyone can adopt into their own applications (other browsers, help viewser, email readers, etc.).
This could be the result later, but money is paid to those who do the direct port and we would have to spend extra time correcting something, we should have done right in the first place.
Money tends to drive projects in the wrong direction, to areas where the means to reach the goal don't matter that much. This has never been an Amiga-like way to do things. We want the best technical solution.
Also it's a matter of who gets paid how much for each development effort. Can it be done absolutely fairly? And what about afterwards when the money is paid? Will developers be willing to maintain the Mozilla port?

We would though accept a solution where 3rd party paid developers commit source to our CVS following the plan that has been set up by the AWeb development team. This is the way Apple Webcore development works.

Right now that plan looks like it's going to be a port of KHTML inspired by the work done by the Apple Webcore development team, by removing the bindings to Trolltech's QT and providing a new API for the engine.

If anyone is willing and able to handle the sources and a GCC compiler, for goodness sake, sign up. :-)
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 16 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jun-2003 15:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
Yeeayy ;)

Cheers
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 17 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 11-Jun-2003 15:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
I will offer you all my support, but i doubt you want my code to enter it, if you want it to be even remotely stable ;)

URL pls?

Cheers
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 18 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 11-Jun-2003 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Amon_Re):
Check here on how to sign up: http://aweb.sunsite.dk/dev/people.html

But people please only sign up if your damn serious about wanting to develop and see KHTML or Gecko as a leading engine in AmigaOS and stay active at least until it is done.

I'll come up with a plan for the direction soon.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 19 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 11-Jun-2003 16:49 GMT
> I agree with the one comment regarding porting KHTML or GRE instead of Mozilla.

I am the person who made that comment about KHTML vs. GRE

- GALAXY -
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 20 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 11-Jun-2003 19:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
> This way we don't only get a kick ass browser, but a kick ass HTML-engine
> that everyone can adopt into their own applications (other browsers, help
> viewser, email readers, etc.).

This is *the* way to go IMO! Sounds great! :-)
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 21 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by seriously on 11-Jun-2003 21:29 GMT
Seriously, I'd estimate 3 months of hard work at least, which includes
crude compiler setups and the writing of transitional tools and libs...
plus the booty would have to take into account that I wouldn't do this
for fun, for I think that Mozilla is a complete misfit on the Amiga.
I'll start at $10000.
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 22 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 12-Jun-2003 02:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (- GALAXY -):
Very good comments there galaxy! :-)
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 23 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 12-Jun-2003 05:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
@Henrik Mikael Kristensen

What do you think of XPCOM?
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 24 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 12-Jun-2003 07:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
Great idea !! :)
Slashdot: Port Mozilla,Collect $3696 : Comment 25 of 25ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 12-Jun-2003 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Darth_X):
I'll have to get back to you on that one... we haven't done any evvaluation on that yet.
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