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[News] Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003ANN.lu
Posted on 12-Jul-2003 09:28 GMT by ID4 -ThE sUrViVoR- (Edited on 2003-07-14 08:38:28 GMT by Christian Kemp)23 comments
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They will show Pegasos G4 and MorphOS 1.4 Click here
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 1 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 12-Jul-2003 07:42 GMT
With great interest I wait whats inside the SuperBundle. And of course MOS1.4
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 2 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Darth_X on 12-Jul-2003 08:20 GMT
Sounds cool to me! ;)
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 3 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Jul-2003 08:21 GMT
I believe it will be a package containing pretty much everything you need to start using your new computer (in many thinkable ways), without having to download a lot of software from the Internet the first thing you do. I think it will contain a lot of tested aminet shareware software, conveniently packaged on a CD, with some licensed commercial software added aswell (like for instance ProStationAudio Titanium).

I believe this is a good thing. Bundling software like this will be needed if you aim for a market outside our little community - not everyone out there has heard of Aminet, or know the names of the applications they should search for.

Whatever it's in it, I think that the first release is somewhat of a "test release" towards us in the community (to get some feedback), and that there might be future revisions of it too ...
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 4 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 12-Jul-2003 08:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (takemehomegrandma):
(The above was obviously an answer to reply 1)
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 5 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 12-Jul-2003 08:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (takemehomegrandma):
You are right!

Our intention is to grow the FTP access like Aminet, having the SuperBundle always there and a mechanism when you login to update automatically.

R&B
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 6 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by The_Editor on 12-Jul-2003 08:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (bbrv):
A clever idea.
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 7 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 12-Jul-2003 12:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (The_Editor):
Actually we are shooting for a dynamic target when we say SuperBundle these days : }
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 8 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 12-Jul-2003 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (bbrv):
"and a mechanism when you login to update automatically."

what, like this:

"bash-2.05b$ su
Password:
p00ter:/home/daniel# apt-get -y update && apt-get -y dist-uprade
Hit http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Packages
Get:1 http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Release [89B]
Hit http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Packages" .. ;)

However ... such a system would introduce a software/package database which is fine in a system that has a decent filesystem structure but AmigaOs and clones are a bit more free flowing :\
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 9 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 12-Jul-2003 13:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (corpse):
" p00ter:/home/daniel# apt-get -y update && apt-get -y dist-uprade"

oops, thats meant to be dist-upgrade heh
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 10 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 12-Jul-2003 15:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (corpse):
So long as it has an option to say no

Poor user logs in with 56k modem.

Superbundle registers, theres 200Mb of updates.... download

ARRRGH!
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 11 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 12-Jul-2003 15:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (DaveP):
I think we are shooting for something more sophisticated, and thousands of megs and climbing. Work in Progress...
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 12 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 12-Jul-2003 15:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (greenboy):
Are you going to add features to installer to register software in the system, so that it can be located and updated? otherwise its going to be a case of scanning the whole system for possible targets or forcing software into one specific location which isn't really a good solution.

It would also be nice if it registered software versions and downloaded patches (the *BSD's ports systems are very good at this) instead of the whole thing over and over aswell, oooo and it could manage the config files and allow for complete purging of software :)
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 13 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 12-Jul-2003 16:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (DaveP):
Dave, if you buy a Pegasos we will deliver to you custom CD's with your name and the little bunny emblazoned on the CD.

Really!

:-D

R&B
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 14 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Emil Oppeln Bronikowski on 12-Jul-2003 21:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (corpse):
Just wait. I can not give You details but... I think You'll be surprised ;-)
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 15 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jul-2003 22:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (bbrv):
Hey, I am not Dave, but I ordered one of the last Pegasos Boards few days ago,
and I reeeeally would like to have little bunny CD`s ;-))))))))
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 16 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Jul-2003 23:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (greenboy):
>Actually we are shooting for a dynamic target when we say SuperBundle these days

A "dynamic target" just like current and past MOS versions were (= unfinished, lacking)?
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 17 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Nate Downes on 13-Jul-2003 00:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
Just e-mail your name and info to natedownes@spambegone.genesi-usa.com and I'll be sure to send you a bunny CD personally.
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 18 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 13-Jul-2003 01:26 GMT
Boring, I wish Bill would stop fluffing us.
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 19 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 13-Jul-2003 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Hi Mr. Anonymous!

Is it better to be fluffed or fleeced?

:-D
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 20 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by bbbb on 13-Jul-2003 22:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (bbrv):
Sure b-b-b-bill.

How is "Air France-gate" by the way? What about your first fire and brimstone lawsuit agains Amiga? So surprised that we havent heard about how you are "On schedule and rocking" in that regard? How IS that going?

Can you please bring me a lawsuit tee shirt to AmiWest? I may not shine your arse like Greenboy or Alkiss with your free tee shirts, but I would appreciate it.

Oh yes, fleeced or fluffed? Nah, shaken, not stirred. Get out of France Bill, you are starting to swound like Alkiss.
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 21 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 14-Jul-2003 06:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (bbbb):
Geee, "wonder" who posted that?!

Lawsuit is in progress. Details in 16 days...

R&B
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 22 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 14-Jul-2003 06:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (corpse):
ha! i laugh at your Debian and its feeble apt-get system ;-)

seriously, its the best Linux tool, but pails into weakness
when put up against the *BSD ports system :-)

ps its just

1>apt-update
2>apt-upgrade

pps i've always wanted AmigaOS to have a decent package management tool..one
where you can just run the update...and it checks against the repository
and informs you if theres a new version etc.... this could actually be done
against AmiNET with a few extra tags on aminet files and another INDEX file

alan
Details About Genesi for the AmiWest 2003 : Comment 23 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 14-Jul-2003 07:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (alan buxey):
"ha! i laugh at your Debian and its feeble apt-get system ;-)"

Better then a piss weak RPM system :)

"seriously, its the best Linux tool, but pails into weakness
when put up against the *BSD ports system :-)"

Gentoo has ports ... But I have better things to do then spend days installing a base system :)

"ps its just

1>apt-update
2>apt-upgrade
"
Debian is really an explorers OS ... theres so much stuff that you never notice, like all the nice config tools in there, you just have to find out about them :)

"pps i've always wanted AmigaOS to have a decent package management tool..one
where you can just run the update...and it checks against the repository
and informs you if theres a new version etc.... this could actually be done
against AmiNET with a few extra tags on aminet files and another INDEX file"

They (Hyperion,the MorphOS peeps etc) could add some functionality to installer that registers software installs and their version in a flat file database (XML using the application.library in os4 maybe) and you could use a client to check your versions against the latest available and download newer installers if updates are available, Much like Redcarpet or VersionTracker. I'd hate to see a system that scans all your drives to find target applications and then screws them up by patching the wrong files etc tho.
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