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[Files] New version of Jamiga!ANN.lu
Posted on 20-Jul-2003 10:57 GMT by Richi14 comments
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There is a new version of the Amiga version of Java. You can find it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jamiga Still a prealpha!
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 1 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 20-Jul-2003 09:07 GMT
Its nice to see a Java for Amiga project actually showing signs of life! Good work, guys.
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 2 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 20-Jul-2003 09:11 GMT
It's amazing to see that such good news got maximum 10 comments (when it's not less) whereas posts like 'Pegasos rocks AmigaOne suxx' or the contrary got several hundreds.
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 3 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Richi on 20-Jul-2003 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ben Yoris):
I really hope people are busy downloading it!
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 4 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 20-Jul-2003 09:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ben Yoris):
You can only say "great work guys" so many times :-)

but until there is atleast a Alpha release, i think many people will keep off from installing it.

Anyone got any comments on what will run with this?
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 5 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 20-Jul-2003 09:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Lasse Bodilsen):
> but until there is atleast a Alpha release, i think many people will keep
> off from installing it.

Exactly. We have seen a great deal of very promising projects during the past 10 years or so, which all looked very cool in the beginning, but then turned out to be abandoned in the end.

Sure, this looks nice, but I am not holding my breath. I applaud your efforts though, and I hope you make it all the way!
:-)
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 6 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 20-Jul-2003 10:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ben Yoris):
I notice you did your bit to stir the doodoo on that thread Ben.

@Topic

Keep up the good work guys!
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 7 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 20-Jul-2003 10:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Ben Yoris):
"It's amazing to see that such good news got maximum 10 comments (when it's not less) whereas posts like 'Pegasos rocks AmigaOne suxx' or the contrary got several hundreds."

Probably because there are lots of game players here, and ANN-wars is a popular online game.

I think Java for Amiga is extremely important, but it won't give instant fun to most ordinary users. A good aim would be to get Java to the point where there can be a plugin for IBrowse, enabling use of web applets such as VRML viewers.
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 8 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Elwood on 20-Jul-2003 10:53 GMT
It's easy to attract comments:

Version 1:

Hey, guys this is a great software. Please make it available for OS4 only so that "they' will be angry ! :-)

Version 2:

Good job, one more program to make Mos a master-piece. Now, with Java too, it will be able to
be an OS better than any other in the community.

:-)))

bye
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 9 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 20-Jul-2003 13:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Don Cox):
Haha, I deactivate java from all my browsers, no matter what CPU I have. Java seems to destroy performance of each browser I've tried it on, it will be awful on the amiga.
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 10 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 20-Jul-2003 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (MIKE):
I don't understand why simply having the Java plugin enabled should slow down general browsing? surely most of the time it should be doing nothing at all?!
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Posted by Don Cox on 20-Jul-2003 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (MIKE):
"Haha, I deactivate java from all my browsers, no matter what CPU I have. Java seems to destroy performance of each browser I've tried it on, it will be awful on the amiga."

Why would it be worse on an Amiga browser than on others? Amiga software is often more efficient and multitasks well.

A Java plugin should be using no cycles if you are not running an applet. Likewise a Flash plugin should be doing nothing if there is no Flash on the page.
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Posted by Don Cox on 20-Jul-2003 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (MIKE):
"Haha, I deactivate java from all my browsers, no matter what CPU I have. Java seems to destroy performance of each browser I've tried it on, it will be awful on the amiga."

Applets in browsers is only one reason to want Java. The main reason is to be able to do Java programming on an Amiga.

The Amiga should have versions of all major programming languages, like any other computer.
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 13 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Casey R Williams on 21-Jul-2003 00:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Don Cox):
I think that alot of Amiga users, having never had java, are mixed up on java. There are java apps that many Amiga users will be quite pleased by when the day comes thta they can use them properly. Art of Illusion, a free open source 3D package comes to mind, as does the Gameboy advance emulator. Seems like much of the Amiga community doesn't really know java from javascript as well...
New version of Jamiga! : Comment 14 of 14ANN.lu
Posted by Onno on 21-Jul-2003 03:42 GMT
The performance of Java is not that bad (rather good actually) and there are quite some good java-demos to show that. The problem when starting an applet from a browser is that usually the java VM needs to be started up first. That indeed takes ages (its pretty big) and that indeed does slow the browsing-experience down quite a bit. Doens't mean java itself is slow though. And it might very well be solved better on AmigaOS/MOS :)

Regards,

Onno
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