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[Files] Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68KANN.lu
Posted on 25-Jul-2003 10:22 GMT by Anonymous Howard49 comments
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The controversial classic 3D shooter appears for MorphOS and Amiga 68K 3.9. This game has excellent play value but is known for violence (monsters explode realistically with lots of blood) and sexual elements (city block includes porno bookstore, later scenes include partially nude women encapsulated in alien slime). 3D Duke. I recall running this game on a Pentium 75, so maybe it will run on a 68060 but I don't think you'll get great performance. On MorphOS it should be fine. However BBRV of Genesi has expressed disapproval of games of questionable morality, IIRC. I think they raised objections to Payback.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 1 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 25-Jul-2003 08:28 GMT
that's what brought down the beta video format, not letting porn on it.
maybe buck will make the same mistake in terms of content for the pegasos
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 25-Jul-2003 08:31 GMT
The MOS port might be useful... Now lets see the source code :-D
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 3 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Monothiest on 25-Jul-2003 08:32 GMT
> However BBRV of Genesi has expressed disapproval of games of questionable
> morality, IIRC. I think they raised objections to Payback.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT? If I shell out for a nifty high power system, I better damn well be blowing some stuff UP man. prOn, violence, graphical blood, YOU NAME IT!!

Geez!

AmigaOne! Our balls may be checkered, but they're bigger than the ones on that moth.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 4 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 25-Jul-2003 08:41 GMT
let's go kick some ass
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 5 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 25-Jul-2003 08:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
So does the MorphOS version only allow you to chew bublegum? :)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 6 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 25-Jul-2003 08:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (T_Bone):
Pretty darn hard to say.. haven't tested the game. I'll get back to you on that one.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 7 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Monothiest on 25-Jul-2003 08:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
How about a nice game of Peg Pong? :D
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 8 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 25-Jul-2003 08:47 GMT
WOOHOO!

Its time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and i'm ALLLLLLLL outta gum!
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 9 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Remco komduur on 25-Jul-2003 08:58 GMT
Haaaa, better late than never. I hope a WarpOS version will apear also!

Allthough Duke Nukem3D was fun, Shaddow Warrior was much more fun.

The sex and violence in the game is a non issue! It was all in good fun and doesn't even look real.

I'm getting sick and tired of some people saying that those violent games like Quake, Unreal Tournament and Desert Combat are a bad influence on children. BULLOCKS. Children understand the difference between a game and the real world. Should the rest of them pay for a few children that don't. Those few children are the problem itself then and should be taken to a psychiater or hospital to find out what is wrong with them.
I'm sorry if this offends someone but the thruth is hard.

I've been playing 3D shooters all my live and I'm mister good guy himself.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 10 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 25-Jul-2003 09:00 GMT
"However BBRV of Genesi has expressed disapproval of games of questionable morality, IIRC."

If so, thats not a great stance; considering a vast majority of the top selling games are those that allow you to rip holes in beings of various origins, be it aliens or nazi's. Even worse, any self repecting "geek" (the sort of people that would buy a PPC board) isn't going to sit down and play a session of the sims over RTCW,UT(2003) etc ;).
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Posted by Eva on 25-Jul-2003 09:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (corpse):
Everyone have a moral and noone can judicate it.
About the game: SLOW LIKE HELL on Blizzard 040, Superfast on pegasos (but it is an easy task) :D
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 12 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Richi on 25-Jul-2003 09:29 GMT
Why 32Mb of ram?
The original runs very well with 4Mb!!
I really hope that with 16Mb of fast i can run it!
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 13 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Jope on 25-Jul-2003 09:49 GMT
Someone who tried, please tell us what version of duke you used with it..

There's 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 (atomic), 1.3 (atomic), 1.7 (duke it out in dc)

So .. Which one will it work with?
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 14 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 25-Jul-2003 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Jope):
It says on the website that it requires Atomic edition, which is great because thats what I have :)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 15 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Jope on 25-Jul-2003 10:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Peter Gordon):
Yes, but there are many versions of the atomic edition .. :-)
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 25-Jul-2003 10:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Jope):
Well, since it says "you need the Atomic edition (older versions won't work)", i'd take that to mean as long as its 1.2 or newer, it should work. AFAIK it only works with the datafiles from the DOS version.
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Posted by MarkTime on 25-Jul-2003 11:19 GMT
wishing for more spiritually rewarding games and advocating non-violence does not mean automatically that someone has advocated the censorship of games.
The only person that can do a good job of telling you their opinions, is the person themselves, telling them first hand.

For example, I don't think pornography and killing games are all the clever myself....however I wouldn't ban them, even if I could, ...and guess what I can't.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 18 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 25-Jul-2003 12:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Monothiest):
I guess he should stay away from "Postal 2" then ... :-p
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 19 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 25-Jul-2003 12:07 GMT
"However BBRV of Genesi has expressed disapproval of games of questionable morality, IIRC. I think they raised objections to Payback."

So? You don't think Bill Gates likes anything and everything written for Windows, Steve Jobs anything and everything written for OS X, and Linus Torvalds anything and everything written for Linux, do you?

Who cares what BBRV think or don't think about program/game XYZ?
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Posted by Matt Parsons on 25-Jul-2003 12:50 GMT
"lots of blood", "sexual elements", "porno", "partially nude women encapsulated in alien slime"...

So how that any different from my Bedroom?
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 21 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2003 12:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Matt Parsons):
"...encapsulated in alien slime"

Better call Mulder and Scully, my friend :)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 22 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2003 13:40 GMT
Is there a demo version avaliable like there was with doom?

I would like to test it on my CSmk3 060 and CVPPC gfx card before I buy it and
find its too slow!
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 23 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Leo on 25-Jul-2003 14:02 GMT
From the Amiga readme: "Pegasos with 603/600Mhz" ;))

Leo.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 24 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 25-Jul-2003 16:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
http://www.neoscientists.org/~dante/

Better check the link (again?)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 25 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Madgun68 on 25-Jul-2003 16:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Jope):
>There's 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 (atomic), 1.3 (atomic), 1.7 (duke it out in dc)

No.

The Atomic edition beings at 1.4. Anything less than that was the first (regular) release.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 26 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 25-Jul-2003 16:56 GMT
Bad news mediator owners: the game uses BestCModeIDTags(), which is broken under CGX emulation on mediator boards.

As a temporary bodge, I put a fixed mode ID in, and rebuilt it. The game runs, and all the title sequences work great. However, it gurus when starting a game, or after a few seconds of playing the demos :(

The framerate was pretty low on my 060/Voodoo/Repulse setup.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 27 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2003 19:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Troels Ersking):
Still cant see a mention about theire being a demo on visiting the link again
just seeen that you have to install it on a Pc first
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 28 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2003 19:24 GMT
What features in it require AmigaOS 3.9 exactly?

Shouldn't this run just fine on AOS 3.0/3.1?
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 29 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2003 19:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Anonymous):
Aha. Mr A. Howard mistake, it says: "AmigaOS3.x (v39)" on the website. That's AOS 3.0 *NOT* 3.9.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 30 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Johan "Graak" Forsberg on 25-Jul-2003 22:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Peter Gordon):
Hmmm, IIRC it should work fine you download and install Picasso 2.1b from www.vgr.com/picasso/
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 31 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 26-Jul-2003 06:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Johan "Graak" Forsberg):
I already have this version installed :-/
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 32 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 26-Jul-2003 06:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Peter Gordon):
Oh wait... it had identical version numbers, and filesizes. Then, on a whim, I tried CRC checking the files (after i posted here), and they were different. it works now :)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 33 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 09:11 GMT
Features:
o Massive amounts of code rewritten in 68k assembler


why?? they're using GCC 2.95.3 to do the compiling. this can
perform within a 5% boundary of the best 68k asm c0d3rZ
pure C would also make porting eg native MorphOS/WarpUP/OS4
so so much easier.

PS didnt realise Pegasos has a 603! ;-) someone get their
CPU revisions a little mixed! :-) (G3 is one of 750,740, 745,755)
check out
http://ewww.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jspnodeId=03M943030450467M983989030230
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 34 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 09:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anonymous):
..sorry! just seen the makefiles of the archive. 68k asm d00dz stuff
is optional.

right on! :-)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 35 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 26-Jul-2003 09:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anonymous):
[quote]
why?? they're using GCC 2.95.3 to do the compiling. this can
perform within a 5% boundary of the best 68k asm c0d3rZ
[/quote]

Really? And you got this figure from where? Your head? The fact is, on the 68k line of processors, well written assembly code can make all the difference, especially in this sort of application.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 36 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Steffen Haeuser on 26-Jul-2003 10:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Remco komduur):
>Haaaa, better late than never. I hope a WarpOS version will apear also!

Good news: On Amigaworld.net Massimiliano Tretene (author of GLQuakeWOS) writes
he will compile a WOS version.

And Dave Pitcher writes he's working on an Amiga OS 4 version.

Steffen
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 37 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Steffen Haeuser):
>On Amigaworld.net Massimiliano Tretene (author of GLQuakeWOS) writes>he will compile a WOS version. GLDuke? :)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 38 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Mad-Matt on 26-Jul-2003 10:59 GMT
Id hope the music player gets added too, without the atmosphere of the music, its only halve a game ;)

quite anoying that they decided that music wasnt good enough for Simon2 simply because the porter didnt like the tunes..and yet they wanted money for the game sheesh . ;)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 39 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 11:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Anonymous):
Will there be a GL version for 060 though rather than warpup so i can get a decent speed with my CVPPC gfx card?
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 40 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 26-Jul-2003 19:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Mad-Matt):
The music added nothing to the game... and was really annoying! If you dont belive me get the midi files for yourself (im pretty sure they can be downloaded from somwhere)

I note that not one Macintosh user complained about the missing music from Simon2. I feel the amiga users that complained did so less because of missing the music and more because we said "Amiga is too poor at MIDI playback" - they want to prove a point.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 41 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 20:10 GMT
No luck in getting this to run on my Pegasos (384MB, Radeon 7000). Just hangs without even opening a screen...
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 42 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Mad-Matt on 26-Jul-2003 21:38 GMT
ya dont take out the music bacause you think its anoying, as a commercial release the port shouldhave remained intact. Soft midi playback isnt all that esource consuming. gmplay supprt with a wrapper wouldhave worked or other solutions like doomsoundlibrary. The choice wouldhave been nice .
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 43 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by dante on 26-Jul-2003 22:32 GMT
Yeah, the music is at my todo-list. i've ported this game because i'm a GREAT fan of duke3d, and without the music something is missing. so, please stay stuned, it's now just version 0.2...
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 44 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Mad-Matt on 27-Jul-2003 08:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (dante):
how is music being implemented ?
for ppc i think using Amidi.device (Timidity++) would kick some ass ;)
and maybe through something similar to doomsound.lib for 68k.
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 45 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Jope on 28-Jul-2003 03:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Madgun68):
Ah yes, my bad.. :-) 1.4 and 1.5 were atomic, 1.7 was Duke it out in DC..

Hope I got it right now. :-D
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 46 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 28-Jul-2003 14:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 ([JC]):
Well, I miss the music in Simon 2 :-) The music in Simon 1 is lovely,
and fun. :-)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 47 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 28-Jul-2003 17:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Mad-Matt):
> Soft midi playback isnt all that esource consuming.

It is on 68K when you have chunky->planar going on on an AGA system.

> gmplay supprt with a wrapper wouldhave worked

The music sounded horrendous with GMPlay plus it would not have worked easily controlling GMPlay from the CLI in the background.

> or other solutions like doomsoundlibrary.

I wasn't aware of doom's sound library and anyway, doom doesn't use standard MIDI files.

Timidity also didn't exist on the amiga, and unless the author of the amiga port has released his source, it is a violation of the GPL.

> The choice wouldhave been nice

It was a small inconsequental part of the game. Mac users didn't complain. I belive the amount of moaning from the Amiga community over this issue was simply because we said "Amiga isn't good enough at MIDI".
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 48 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] on 28-Jul-2003 17:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
The music in the PC version of Simon1 isn't too bad, I didn't think much of the mods from the cd32 version of Simon1 I had though. Simon2's music was just very annoying. I'm pretty sure the midi files from Simon2 are in circulation, download them and hear for yourself :)
Duke Nukem 3D for MorphOS, Amiga 68K : Comment 49 of 49ANN.lu
Posted by Tripper on 30-Jul-2003 06:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Well, I miss the music in Simon 2 :-) The music in Simon 1 is lovely,
and fun. :-)

Indeed, I also loved the music in Simon1..kept me playing it through!
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