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Posted on 26-Jul-2003 03:43 GMT by STRICQ30 comments
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First pictures online from AmiWest 2003. www.stricq.com
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 1 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 26-Jul-2003 04:36 GMT
Wasnt AmiWest due to start today ( Saturday ) though?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 2 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 26-Jul-2003 04:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (DaveP):
Uh, Dave, time zones? ;-) As I type this, it's five minutes til midnight on Friday, on the US west coast.

-- gary_c
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 3 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by DaveP on 26-Jul-2003 05:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (gary_c):
Doh! Youd think Id know given what I do for a living!

Tip to self: Get more sleep ;-)
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 4 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by cv643d on 26-Jul-2003 06:39 GMT
Hmm

ok. I see some rare A500 CD drives, portable C64.. hmm never seen those before on an Amiga show!!! .. ok just kidding.

Hey I got an idea!! why not get all Amiga models from A500 to A4000 T and have them on the show so everyone can play with them..
lol the tried and true formula almost every Amiga show has tried since 1998..
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 5 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 26-Jul-2003 07:48 GMT
This looks like a Pegasos G4 card ...

http://www.stricq.com/pictures/AmiWest2003/07250086.jpg

... with a fan :-/
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 6 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 07:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (takemehomegrandma):
Didn't bbrv tell G4 is fanless?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 7 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 26-Jul-2003 08:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
AFAIK they did. But OTOH, that was before they were built and tested, wasn't it?

Perhaps there will be two models, one with the low power 1.0 Volt version of the 1GHz CPU (<10 Watt), and one with the regular 1.3 GHz version? (/me is hoping) ;-)

The heatsink looks very thin BTW. If one replaces that with a thicker one, perhaps then the fan is not needed?

Ah, well. The G3 is actually quite enough anyway ...
:-)
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 8 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 26-Jul-2003 08:35 GMT
Who stops from removing the fan if it bugs too much? =)
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 9 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by ID4 - tHe SuRvIvOr - on 26-Jul-2003 08:39 GMT
This seems "MorphOSWest", I only see Pegasos and MorphgOS photos. Anything Amiga?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 10 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 26-Jul-2003 09:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (ID4 - tHe SuRvIvOr -):
>This seems "MorphOSWest", I only see Pegasos and MorphgOS photos. Anything Amiga?

Like what? I think I saw linux in one shot, and some sort of PDA thing on a table which may have had Planet Zed on it?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 11 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by MiniBobF on 26-Jul-2003 10:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (takemehomegrandma):
> Perhaps there will be two models, one with the low power 1.0 Volt version of > the 1GHz CPU (<10 Watt), and one with the regular 1.3 GHz version? (/me is
> hoping) ;-)

The lower power 7447 (and 7457 for that matter) is not yet in existance. For now, you have to live with the fan.

Neil Thomas, AKA MiniBobF
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 12 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Runstoprestore on 26-Jul-2003 10:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Lando):
>> This seems "MorphOSWest", I only see Pegasos and MorphgOS photos. Anything
>> Amiga?

> Like what? I think I saw linux in one shot, and some sort of PDA thing on a
> table which may have had Planet Zed on it?

LOL LOL LOL THE AMIGA LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 13 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 26-Jul-2003 11:10 GMT
My two points:

1. Thumbnails! How hard would it be to use some gallery apps?
2. How about some worth while pics? Even on broadand, those pics are not worth the time to download. :\

Dammy
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 14 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by cv643d on 26-Jul-2003 12:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (dammy):
Anyone see the MarbleMadness pirate copy ?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 15 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 12:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (MiniBobF):
>The lower power 7447 (and 7457 for that matter) is not yet in existance. Do you work at Motorola/PPC to be able to speak about what exists and what not?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 16 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 26-Jul-2003 12:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
> Do you work at Motorola/PPC to be able to speak about what exists and what
> not?

Oh for crying out loud
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 17 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 26-Jul-2003 14:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
products that are currently in production and shipping are listed on mot's site along with sample/purchasing information, datasheets, refrence designs etc.
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 18 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 26-Jul-2003 14:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (dammy):
"2. How about some worth while pics? Even on broadand, those pics are not worth the time to download. :\"

On the contrary, I thought they were better than we usually get. Still not sharp enough to show screen details, but that's digital cameras for you.

These pics give a good idea of the atmosphere of setting up before the show.

Although I recognise some people, captions saying who is who would be nice.
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 19 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 15:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (corpse):
>products that are currently in production and shipping are listed on mot's site

How come the 1.4Ghz parts etc werenīt listed before - nevertheless Apple shipped them? So Mac customers bought a phantom? I say Genesi has low power 7447, period.
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 20 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by STRICQ on 26-Jul-2003 16:16 GMT
I will keep adding more pictures to the website as I take them. Keep checking back for more pictures. I'll add thumbs when I get home and have the time to do that extra type stuff. OS4 Pictures coming up soon.
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 21 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 26-Jul-2003 17:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
"How come the 1.4Ghz parts etc werenīt listed before - nevertheless Apple shipped them"

Special contract between Apple and Mot?

"So Mac customers bought a phantom? I say Genesi has low power 7447, period."

Yeah, Genesi a company that has so far shipped less then 600 boards can get special parts from motorola ... I can just imagine the dialog:

Mot: Hello motorola here
Genesi: We'd like some special non-general consumption CPU parts
Mot: Eh, we only really do that for people like Apple... what sort of numbers are you looking at?
Genesi: around 600
Mot: Hahahaha No seriously how many
Genesi: well about 400 to tell the truth
Mot: Hahahaha, dude you're killing me.. seriously? 20,000, 40,000 how many?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 22 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by minator on 26-Jul-2003 17:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (corpse):
Apple uses "P" rated CPUs which Motorola don't generally sell.

It's a 7447 as far as I'm aware, I don't know if it's the low power version but I doubt it as it most likely costs more.

I don't know why there's a fan on it, maybe they had difficulty getting a bigger heat sink.

You can go to 10W and beyond without a heat sink - a couple of weeks back I seen a fanless Pentium 4!
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 23 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 18:03 GMT
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can we have descriptive texts for these
images - and maybe even a thumbnail gallery? Some pictures
are worth viewing...but when they are, the viewer isnt told
what they are...or who they are looking at...or what that person
is doing. Image straplines are very important.
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 24 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Mendoza on 26-Jul-2003 18:10 GMT
Try here: http://polarboing.com/amiwest/amiwest2003/ (hope it's okay Doug)
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 25 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 18:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
"How come the 1.4Ghz parts etc werenīt listed before - nevertheless Apple shipped them?"

Hint - Apple overclock the CPUs in their 1.4GHz Macs. Not that this is necessarily a Bad Thing, as Apple's engineers took great care to ensure there was sufficient extra cooling, adjusted the voltages and such like to ensure that the CPUs woudl be fine at 1.4GHz.

No need to be so snide Mr Anon, was there?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 26 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 20:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Anonymous):
>Hint - Apple overclock the CPUs in their 1.4GHz Macs.

What makes you so sure? Did you look beneath the cooler to see what official MHz rating marks that chip actually had?

>No need to be so snide Mr Anon, was there?

Sorry, Snide is my second name, Mr Anon.
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 27 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 20:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (corpse):
>Yeah, Genesi a company that has so far shipped less then 600 boards can get special parts from motorola ...

Get your glasses and see for yourself at http://www.pegasosppc.com/images/g4/g4_bill.jpg
Itīs an "N" specified chip, isnīt it?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 28 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 20:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (minator):
>Apple uses "P" rated CPUs which Motorola don't generally sell.

So you can honestly tell AmigaOne used no "P" rated G4?
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 29 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 26-Jul-2003 20:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Anonymous):
I can see 7447 and a serial number on the package markings ... on the die I can just about make out PPC7447 and what looks the end of a country of origin but no N branding..
AmiWest 2003 Setup Pictures : Comment 30 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2003 22:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (corpse):
I can make out some "1000NA", what do you think?
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