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[News] Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle"ANN.lu
Posted on 28-Jul-2003 16:45 GMT by takemehomegrandma37 comments
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The SuperBundle will be downloadable Wednesday, 30 July.
MorphOS 1.4 will be available on Friday, 1 August.

For more information (about where to get it, etc), visit MorphOS-News.de!

Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 1 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 28-Jul-2003 14:48 GMT
Hmm, I'm going to Mallorca that Friday ...

(I don't know if I shall make a ":-)" or a ":-/" about that now ...) ;-)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 2 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 28-Jul-2003 14:48 GMT
But we still don't know what's in the "SuperBundle", do we? Or did I miss something?

Gregg
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 3 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by bbrv on 28-Jul-2003 15:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Gregg):
Hi Gregg, the SuperBundle will be released with what is ready...:-)

You will understand the details of what is ready and what will be released Wednesday.

It is free to download and more applications will be released when they are ready.

We hope all Pegasos owners appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 4 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Jul-2003 15:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (takemehomegrandma):
Come to Finland, its as warm here then, and we can provide clean water. No dhiarrea required!
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 5 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 28-Jul-2003 15:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrv):
> We hope all Pegasos owners appreciate it.

I am sure! :-)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 6 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 28-Jul-2003 15:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
:-)

It's warm in Sweden too, but it's even warmer in Spain! :-)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 7 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 28-Jul-2003 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrv):
Thanks, bbrv.

One caution : The contents had better be generally impressive, otherwise you risk being accused of unjustifiable hype, especially with this type of "surprise" marketing.

Of course, a less risky strategy would be to go for an "OKBundle", or possibly "NotBadBundle", or maybe "JumbleBundle" - let me know when you feel you need my marketing expertise...

Gregg
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 8 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 28-Jul-2003 15:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Gregg):
> One caution : The contents had better be generally impressive, otherwise you
> risk being accused of unjustifiable hype, especially with this type
> of "surprise" marketing.

Hey, whatever it is, it's FREE! :-)
And as far as I understand, this is not a static bundle. This is a start, and it will evolve and improve over time ...

> Of course, a less risky strategy would be to go for an "OKBundle", or
> possibly "NotBadBundle", or maybe "JumbleBundle"

Hehe ...
:-)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 9 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Jul-2003 15:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Gregg):
What surprise marketing? It's been going on for ages, plus the bundle has always said to be "living" .. more things get added from time to time.

And if somebody bitches something thats *free*, well, then he/she is clearly not worth noting, plus he/she can of course buy/download better alternatives.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 10 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 28-Jul-2003 15:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (hooligan/dcs):
> hooligan :
> What surprise marketing? It's been going on for ages, plus the bundle has
> always said to be "living" .. more things get added from time to time.

Surprise contents, not name.

The "Ginger/Segway" nonsense springs to mind - not that I'm drawing any other parallels.

Gregg
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 11 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 28-Jul-2003 15:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Gregg):
Well anyway, it's hard to be disappointed to something thats free, right? Unless its a birthdaypackage with YET another socks and underwear ;-)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 12 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2003 17:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrv):
we sure will =D
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 13 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 28-Jul-2003 17:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (hooligan/dcs):
That illustrates my point nicely, thanks.

Given the present _is_ a pair of socks, which prelude would give rise to more disappointment and frustration when you actually open it :

"Here's you present - happy Christmas."

or :

"Here's that smashtastic pressie I've been working on for you ever since that last Christmas, the one I've been winding you up about for four months! Go on - betcha can't wait to see what's inside!"

Mind you, if they were hand-knitted of yarn made from the giver's own navel fluff, you may have an alternative reaction...

Gregg
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 14 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 28-Jul-2003 20:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
Hooligan/dcs wrote:

>Come to Finland, its as warm here then, and we can provide clean water.
>No dhiarrea required!

If I was a spanish I could be offended by a statement like this... Don't you think so?

You are a very bad hooligan... ;-)

:-)))))))))))

(By the way. I never heard of bad quality of spanish water. I could be cautious when in Mexico, Chile, India, Philippines... but it varies from place to place. Does the spanish water used to be so bad?)

Ciao,

Raffaele
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 15 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jul-2003 21:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Raffaele):
Well, I´m spanish and there is no problem with the water.

A list of programs of the superbundle will be post on pegasosppc.com or another site?
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 16 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 29-Jul-2003 00:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (takemehomegrandma):
>Hey, whatever it is, it's FREE! :-)
>And as far as I understand, this is not a static bundle. This is a start, and >it will evolve and improve over time ...

Free? Gee, does it include Wayne Hunt, Martyr for hire Cards? Will he autograph them gratis, or will we have to pay him?

Dynamic or static, free or for fee, improve over time, or no, this is pathetic.

People, this is noting other than a reasonable facsimile of what is already there. Noise is just noise.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 17 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by magnetic on 29-Jul-2003 01:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (bbrv):
BBRV
Thank you so much for the Superbundle release. In conjuction with the
MOS 1.4 it is an amazing software package. The value to the Peg
community is tremendous! NOWHERE in the computer world is there value
like this. Thank you.
magnetic
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 18 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 29-Jul-2003 04:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Gregg):
Gregg wrote:
> But we still don't know what's in the "SuperBundle", do we? Or did I miss something?

One CD is Linux stuff:
PegXLin (bootable Linux disc for Pegasos)

KDE 3.1.2 (GUI)
Gnome 2.2 (GUI)
XFree 4.3 (X11)
Cups 1.1.19 (Printing management)
MOL 0.9.69 (Mac-on-Linux)
Bochs 2.0.2 (PC emulator)
Kernel 2.4.21-benh2
'Cool video, audio players'
CD Burning software including video-cd
Digital Camera support (capture, edit, save)
USB support
TV card Support (Bt 878 + C8xx)

Some of these were already available, but now it's all on one convenient CD (or download directory) :-).

Plus software for MorphOS, naturally.

-- gary_c
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 19 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by cahva on 29-Jul-2003 08:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (anonymous):
For your information, the idea behind this came from the users as I recall. Superbundle is a very good idea. Package full of programs that work for sure with MOS/Pegasos. And I heard that it contains so much more than just some stuff from Aminet...
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 20 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 29-Jul-2003 09:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (hooligan/dcs):
Excuse me, Mr Hooligan have you tried to stop drinking fecal waters?

Or as you hooligans don't have a clue about drinking and find cheap alcohol here maybe you don't know that if you drink too much "Sangría" and "Kalimotxo" you may end up with dhiarrea, specially if it's of bad quality, or maybe it's because you get drunk drinking 10 litres from a "fregona"'s cube (a cleaning recipient) and then go to the beach puke over yourself and sleep when the sun is higher causing you dehydration of your brain...

BTW the water is perfectly good here, don't drink water from fountains if you don't see some text like "Agua potable", and if your intestines are so weak you can buy bottled water.

If you go to spanish restaurants you will probably have less intestinal problems because we usually use detergent to clean the dishes... not like in other countries..., the water of the restaurants is always bottled water...

have you actually been in Spain? have you eaten in Spanish or foreign restaurants? I say that because I find amusing the behabour of some tourists, without any interest for the local food/drink... when I go to other regions I try to eat dishes that I couldn't eat in my region... for example, going to Finland to eat in spanish restaurants, only to meet spanish people would be quite stupid IMHO... If I go to any country I try to learn things about that place, I try their food, their drinks...

You sound like a racist ignorant.

Regards
Crumb//AAT
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 21 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Turrican on 29-Jul-2003 11:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (gary_c):
Would you know if all that Linux stuff could work and on other PPC systems like a Mac or even AmigaOne too?

Just curius... :)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 22 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Tripper on 29-Jul-2003 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Crumb // AAT):
Hey, chill out. I know Hooligan, he's not the one you might think. It's HOT in Finland and that's the main reason for comments like that I suppose :)
What comes to water...it's top notch here, but it was ok in Serbia as well..so why not in Spain as well.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 23 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan on 29-Jul-2003 12:05 GMT
@Raffaele, Crumb

First of all, I did get dhiarrea when I visited Mallorca, but that was ten years ago. Plus, I forgot a smiley.

As me being an arrogant rasist.. oh boy. You couldn't be more wrong.
When I did mailtrading in demoscene, I had contacts in 20-25 different countries, had contacts of all races, with different religions and opinions. And we all got along just fine. In fact, got along so good, that I spent quite a long time in Eurocharts voted as oen the best swappers.

ps.my girlfriend is russian.

ps2.I never called spanish contact of mine a rasist, when he asked if I have ever bumbed into a polarbear on my way to school. I kindly explained that no I have not, usually forest-rangers shoot all loose polarbears.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 24 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by hooligan/dcs on 29-Jul-2003 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Tripper):
@Tripper

Don't worry.. seems like +30.5c .. but I have enough supplies of cold beer.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 25 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Tripper on 29-Jul-2003 12:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (hooligan/dcs):
So you'll survive it for sure :-D
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 26 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 29-Jul-2003 12:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Crumb // AAT):
Just to clarify something a lot of people confuse. You should never drink
water from the local network in any place you go that is far from home.
Your body is used to a specific water substance. In other places there are
other other microorganisms in the water for example. I had dhiarra when I drunk
water in Crete, some other Greek islands and the UK, while the water was
perfectly OK. So no, it's not that the Spanish water is "bad" it's that you're
not used to it.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 27 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 29-Jul-2003 12:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
But *no-one* will get dhiarrea from *Swedish* tap water! 8-)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 28 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb // AAT on 29-Jul-2003 13:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (hooligan):
@Hooligan:
Well sorry for my message, I guess it's the heat, we have around 41ºC here in Sevilla... you wouldn't have problems with the water now because it would evaporate easily ;-D

@Alkis:
I guess it depends a lot on the quantity of Clore used to kill microorganisms... in some places the amount is higher than in others... I lived 10 years in a town were there was a fountain which gave water classified as non-potable, well, many friends born in the town were used to drinking that water and had no problems with it... the same water with some clore would be classified as potable. I've drink water in different zones and never had a problem with it... it's easier to have dhiarrea eating non-fresh fish or seafood than drinking normal water
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 29 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 29-Jul-2003 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (gary_c):
the emphasis for this does appear to be the wrong way around....

alan
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 30 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Rui Silva on 29-Jul-2003 20:07 GMT
Portugal is a nice place to visit this time of year...
We're wainting for you all, the water is fine the food is great, beer is cold women are hot, great weather, beautifull landscapes, etc :)
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 31 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 30-Jul-2003 05:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (hooligan):
Come on Hooligan... you wrote:

> First of all, I did get dhiarrea when I visited Mallorca,
> but that was ten years ago. Plus, I forgot a smiley.

Don't put me in the number...

At least because regarding you, I remembered to put in the smiley...

;-)

Ciao,

Raffaele
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 32 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 30-Jul-2003 06:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Mr. Tsapanidis wrote:

> Just to clarify something a lot of people confuse.
> You should never drink water from the local network in any place you go that is far from home.
> Your body is used to a specific water substance.
> In other places there are
other other microorganisms in the water for example.

Strange concept!!!

When in the water there are microorganisms... ...simply it is classified as non-drinkable (everywhere in civilized countries)!

At least there can be microorganisms onto the container surfaces that the water can touch or onto the pipes exposed to exteriors like in drinking fountains.

Ciao,

Raffaele
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 33 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 30-Jul-2003 06:20 GMT
By the way, why don't we start a water-flavour survey like it happened sometimes for the wheater climate here on ANN?

I start by myself.

I live near Naples here in Italy.

Depending from day to day it may vary from a taste of subtileness upto a flavour that i classify as "water good as milk" that is the water I prefer.

Water here is extremely good to rise up the quality for an espresso coffee or the taste of a pizza when you mix it in the dough.
More than in the city, because I am served by the water of the springs that once upon a time (1890) served whole Naples.
Yes, they have lesser quality water than I have regarding coffee and cooking...

But I think it is strong in calcium (and if true, so not good for kidneys)...

...and in summer it is too many full of little bubbles but no sparkling (and I don't know if it exceeded in oxygen or chlore) so I prefer to wait before drink it.

How is your water?

Ciao,

Raffaele
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 34 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 30-Jul-2003 14:11 GMT
OT, but about the Spanish water comment...
.
I'm trained as an analytical chemist and can say I'm pretty convinced that Spanish drinking water isn't up to the quality of much of Northern Europe, but AFAIK it *still does* conform to minimum EU regulations, so it's not "dirty". Spain is (we might have noticed) a hot country, and microorganisms thrive in the heat. Also, the water supply is likely to be concentrated in reservoirs from rainfall or lowland rivers, and not from marshland or mountain streams which filter it as it is in cooler climes. If you travel to Scandinavia or the northern UK, the water is drinkable for everyone, not just the natives, and actually quite tasty. The further south you travel, the less reliable the water is, and the worse it tastes. This is true for all of Europe, not just Spain.
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 35 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 31-Jul-2003 16:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (XraalE):
Mr. XraalE wrote:

>I'm trained as an analytical chemist and can say
>I'm pretty convinced that Spanish drinking water isn't up to the quality of much of Northern Europe,
>but AFAIK it *still does* conform to minimum EU regulations, so it's not "dirty".

Well minimum??? I don't know how is the law in Spain but here in Italy if microorganism level is more zero (0) simply you can't drink it...

Simply, easy... legal...

I hope these arethe standards in all EU, ormaybe is the moment to change something and mainly regarding the things I am about to tell you all...

For example after repairs to the tubes (in every countries) water it may be coloured by metallic salts, but here in Italy people refuses to drink until it flow clean (even if advised by authorities of full drinkability)...

For Example I prefer more water from acqueducts. And I read carefully labels of mineral waters...
Because for the italian laws water from acqueducts must have zero per cent (0%) of such thingies like HEAVY METALS while mineral waters are allowed to contain it...

Yes, the *SO GOOD* EU regulations admit for the mineral water, discrete percentage of metals such as:

Arsenic

Lead

and so on...

(And Italian government was so happy to welcome hurry such a regulation!!!)

MAINLY...there is another fact I can't bear...

For the EU, every merchandise of waters, from 2 years ago upto now, it can bottle and sell common water...

...and sell it under the info-label of "Drinkable water".

It could be more honest, because "drinkable water" here in Italy must have no addition of any heavy metals...

BUT it is silly if you note that the firms of mineral waters sell this "drinkable water" in packages and bottles similar to their mineral water printing the invoice "drinkable water" soooo tiiiiiny...

I could consider it as a *trick* to sell common water spreaded as a expensive mineral water...

(If you don't read the label carefully you may not notice it)

And it is a real business for water merchandise firms even considering the fact that mineral water *IS* the real *business*.

Infact production cost of a mineral water are derisive respect the gains a mineral water returns.

>Spain is (we might have noticed) a hot country,
>and microorganisms thrive in the heat.
>Also, the water supply is likely to be concentrated in reservoirs from rainfall or lowland rivers,
>and not from marshland or mountain streams which filter it as it is in cooler climes.

Irrilevant... acqueduct water must pass thru decantation pools and be filtered...

Ifnot naturally at least forced mechanically...

But if a government refuses to apply good methods of cleaning, we can only complain about that...

> If you travel to Scandinavia or the northern UK, the water
> is drinkable for everyone, not just the natives,
> and actually quite tasty.

At least Good work of cleaning...
I can't believe that you can drink it in its natural places *naturally*...

Not the water serving London for example...

But certainly in mountain regions, where springs are everywhere, and are pure and the same springs are used by acqueducts you can to...

Like for example Pennines and Scandinavia...

>The further south you travel, the less reliable the water is, and the worse it >tastes. This is true for all of Europe, not just Spain.

I live in the region of Naples and the water is good because it cames from mountain'springs not plains rainfall or something...

And it is southern Europe...

Ciao,

Raffale
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 36 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Stew on 01-Aug-2003 21:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Raffaele):
I live in south east Texas. Very hot and humid at the moment (97F and 90% relative humidity). The water smell of heavy chlorination. We filter it out for our drinking. While the water may smell like a swimming pool, it never makes you sick.

Stew
Availability of MorphOS 1.4 and the "Super Bundle" : Comment 37 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 02-Aug-2003 06:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Stew):
Well Stew, you wrote:

> While the water may smell like a swimming pool, it never makes you sick.

At least in many states of USA water is added by fluorine
(reduces incidence of cavities in teeth)...

...and by a recent law also iodine
(avoids goitre and cretinism in childs, and it is common to know how they are strongly exposed to these disease when living far from the sea)

I think it is a good social service to add these substances to water, and I hope that the state of Texas improved it...

Ciao,

Raffaele
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