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[Web] SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGAANN.lu
Posted on 09-Aug-2003 18:21 GMT by review @swaug.org.uk12 comments
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SWAUG.org.uk has a review of the new CD-ReWriter from Lite-On. It is a 52x32x52x drive.

We see how well it works with the Amiga.

Goto http://www.swaug.org.uk/reviews
This is our first review with mini movies illustrating points within the review.
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 1 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Jacek Piszczek on 11-Aug-2003 05:19 GMT
Nice review. Too bad Amigas cannot keep up with this burner's amazing speed. And it's DAMN BAD MakeCD seems to have some max speed limit (?). At least I've never been able to burn at more than 24x using this model, even though I tried plenty of CDs - it burns at 24x even with the CDR supplied by LiteON, marked as 52x. Real read speed of audio cds is around 40x here in Pegasos - seems to be the max of this burner.
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 2 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 11-Aug-2003 06:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Jacek Piszczek):
What the hell are you talking about? ;)

I'm able to burn at 48x with my Plextor 48/24/48 on Pegasos just fine, just set speed to 0, and it will do the max your drive can do...


- CISC
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 3 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 11-Aug-2003 07:54 GMT
Reported from the review:

> However the speed reported by MakeCD was a maximum of 35.5x and
> this was probably due to the constraints of the Powerflyer IDE interface.

I wonder what have had happened if they had provided the interface that converts IDE to SCSI, allowing the IDE CD writer to be connected directly into the SCSI chain...

A friend of mine has it for its main hd and it is pure nuke power.

benefits:

Increased speed of IDE HD EVEN (sometimes) upto 4 times

Chained to SCSI (even on an old Amiga it doesn't annoy the CPU anymore)


***With this card... ...How much the speed could had increased?***


Here follows some info about ide/scsi interface.

When searching back for this interface card I don't remember well, I found first review of it (IDE2SCSI) on NoRiscNoFun:

http://www.trotta.de/club/heart/index.php?content=ide2scsi

and special prices:

http://www.trotta.de/club/php/main.php?content=ide2scsi

(If you don't read german you can find useful google translators as I did.)


A complete review is on amiga magazin:

http://www.amiga-magazin.de/magazin/a09-02/idescsi/index.html

And it reports some other ide/scsi resellers.


There is also another product: "I-O Data IDSC21 Series".

I found news of it on an Atari site (How amazing) with a complete review:

http://alive.atari.org/alive5/ide2scsi.html

the original manufacturer is here:

http://www.iodata.com/products/products.php?cat=INTP&ts=2&tsc=14

The atarians said (not without anger I think) that it can be find at an amigan reseller, a swedish firm:

http://www.ggsdata.se/

(I think that if this amiga firm is selling it, then it "must" work quite fine on our machines... or not???)
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 4 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 11-Aug-2003 09:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
he said Amigas - so why compare the Pegasos? Of course the Pegasos
(and AmigaONE) will be able to run this at full 52X speed because
their IDE interface is modern with high bandwidth. On Amigas, the
best you get IDE-wise is the PowerFlyer...and that can only handle about
5Mb/s throughout without taking all CPU. ie around 32x - 36x (depending
on 040/060) . there again, my IDE CDWriter is only a 2X old-school beasty..
and too me, anything over 24x is ultra-fast...i dont need to burn that much..
or that often! :-) this Lite-On is very tempting for my next CD upgrade
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 5 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 11-Aug-2003 09:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (alan buxey):
Read again, he seems to think MakeCD itself has a speedlimit, which was what I replied to. ;)


- CISC
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 6 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 11-Aug-2003 11:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
sorry, i thought you were replying to the first point he made ;-)

yes, MakeCD can run a CD drive at whatever its maximum is...and VERY WELL too! :-)

alan
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 7 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by dave @swaug.org.uk on 11-Aug-2003 17:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
At no point in the review did we say that MakeCD has a speed limit.

We we simply stating that the hardware that the drive was running on was limiting it`s speed.

Also: it is still valid for an Amiga user to buy this 52x32x52x drive. The reason is that the drive is one of the fastest at CDRW writing- 32x
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 8 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 12-Aug-2003 02:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (dave @swaug.org.uk):
I know that, I was merely replying to Mr. Piszczek in Comment no. 1... ;)


- CISC
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 9 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Jupp3 on 12-Aug-2003 06:28 GMT
I have succesfully written rather full CD's in about 9mins on my
all-IDE A1200 configuration...

Power Flyer Using Maxtor 25G HD, Samsung CDRW-DVD combo
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 10 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 12-Aug-2003 08:50 GMT
Well so at SWAUG none has yet tested a CD writer mounted on a IDE/SCSI interface...

I wonder if they can do that...
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 11 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 12-Aug-2003 08:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Raffaele):
Hey... to be precise...

I wrote this:

>I wonder if they can do that...

Only as an hypotetical phrase not a complaint...

(sometimes, written statements like the above, can be mistakenly interpreted)
SWAUG REVIEW: Lite-On 52x32x52x CDRW on AMiGA : Comment 12 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Jools on 12-Aug-2003 11:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (dave @swaug.org.uk):
>Also: it is still valid for an Amiga user to buy this 52x32x52x drive. The >reason is that the drive is one of the fastest at CDRW writing- 32x

I don't see your point. writing a cd in 9 mins is not 32x. its more like 10 speed. I use a 16x scsi writer. its not particularly new, but i can run it at 16x. anything faster would not be much use. I should think its more valid for an amiga user to buy a slower cdrw than this one. less money spend and the same performance.
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