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[Files] Frying Pan 0.3 availableANN.lu
Posted on 24-Aug-2003 17:24 GMT by Rik Sweeney5 comments
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Version 0.3 of the CD Burning Tool Frying Pan is available from Aminet


Frying Pan 0.3 available : Comment 1 of 5ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 24-Aug-2003 15:45 GMT
this is cool!
is it possible to register online w/creditcard ?
Frying Pan 0.3 available : Comment 2 of 5ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Aug-2003 05:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (catohagen):
I looked at the docs, and apparently you have to
send money in an envelope or do a bank transfer.

Perhaps the author should look into using Reg.net.
They can't be too expensive as there are at least
two other programs from East european countries,
Moovid and FroggerNG, that can be registered through

I think the author would receive more registrations
if he went this route. People just can't be bothered
with bank transfers and sending money via snailmail.

$10 for a quality CD burning app is very inexpensive,
and to top it off it seems a lot more compatible
than MakeCD (supports newer, cheaper drives).
Frying Pan 0.3 available : Comment 3 of 5ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Aug-2003 11:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
>Perhaps the author should look into using Reg.net. They can't be too expensive

I'm writing software, too, and looked into such services. They usually have a lot of disadvantages. Here are some:

- the percentage they take of your income can be very high. Obviously this can be compensated by making the product more expensive (that's probably why they dare to ask for such percentages), so it's only a principal question: Are you willing to put up with people who take 10% of "your" money? Btw, all-purpose payment services like PayPal can be cheaper if you don't need specialized support like a download server etc. Unfortunately, PayPal is not available in many countries as a service for receiving money.

- they offload the risk with credit cards to you: if a customer reverses payment or a payment was fraudulent, you have to return money to these services (even if it happens six months after sale). This does not happen with cash/bank transfer payments where it is your own decision to adopt a generous reversal poliy. Or not. With software, I personally am very sceptical about reversals.

And if you ship physical goods (ie. CDs):

- these services usually demand that, for physical goods, you use a form of shipment with tangible documentation (ie. registered shipment). This multiplies shipment costs for customers by a factor of two to five.

- they normally have a very unflexible payout schedule. For example, you might receive the money that was directed at you only every four weeks (or every three months). Until then, you will have to finance all costs for production and shipment in advance.

Final thought: Americans don't seem to be aware of payment methods beyond credit cards. One usually is met with a blind stare if one mentions a bank transfer (which, for Europeans, is a few mouseclicks). If you really need to address those 5-10% of the Amiga mrket, you will have to accept cards. The remaining 90% of Amiga users live in Europe and normally have no problems with using registered mail etc., especially if it helps to keep the price low. I personally only mention PayPal on my web site but most customers ask if they can pay with a bank transfer or pay cash.
Frying Pan 0.3 available : Comment 4 of 5ANN.lu
Posted by jools on 25-Aug-2003 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
I would advise against sending cash to Poland. It seems that on the way from UK to Poland (Or when it arrives) all mail is opened and checked. If there is cash inside some always seems to go missing. You can no longer insure any package to Poland from the UK with royal mail due to these problems. My contact lenses were posted to me while I was there. They got opened. As did a letter with photos. And when a friend posted some cash, it got opened and some went missing (And because it didnt all go missing there is no way to make a claim!)

Bank transfers from England to Poland are not cheap either. It costs about twice the registration infact.
Frying Pan 0.3 available : Comment 5 of 5ANN.lu
Posted by Neko on 28-Aug-2003 07:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (jools):
Seriously, all these Polish software authors whine when they don't get their
money for registrations, and it's surprising they don't realise what a crappy
place to live it must be for anyone who doesn't have CC facilities or a cheap

Most of software on the Amiga that has a real registration system is attempted
to be purchased with stolen credit card numbers from addresses inside Poland,
Romania, Bosnia etc.

Not a coincidence!

Now that Poland is part of the EU, at least the Polish can sidle across the
border into Germany, and accept registrations in a decent currency, too.

Everybody sing! Deutschland, Deutschland, Über alles! :)

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