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Posted on 18-Sep-2003 17:43 GMT by Peter Gordon115 comments
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Soft3 have posted images of the new Mini-ITX formfactor AmigaONE Lite.

You can see them here!
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 51 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 18-Sep-2003 21:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Eva):
rofl
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 52 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 18-Sep-2003 21:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Eva):
lol ..ok u have said enough!
go dig yerself into a pit and prey for something else.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 53 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 18-Sep-2003 21:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Eva):
Eva: I would like to know what info you have on basis to this
comment. According the text it's picture of preproduction (=proto)
board and personally I don't see any reason why this may not be the
case.

What I'm interested is when (if?) this goes to production and how much
it'll cost. Of course I'd also like to know how well Eyetech tests
these before announcing and selling them 'identical to final' :-)
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 54 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 18-Sep-2003 21:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (JoannaK):
... IMO the version of the Articia controller that will be used in the final end-user version may play a role too!

Regarding the testing, I think that Eyetech do some quite thourough testing of each and single ArticiaS A1 XE motherboard, especially the G4 ones. IMO, that might be the explanation of the slow deliveries to customers. Some time ago I recall that Eyetech asked people to change their order to a G3, and those who did that got their boards fairly quick afterwards. As far as I remember, Genesi too experienced some problems with the ArticiaS in combination with the G4, it seemed that only some random combinations of chipsets and CPU's did work together(?).

Perhaps I remember things wrong though, if so, please correct me! :-)

BTW, I must say that I really like the MiniITX form factor, allthough it's quite limited for obvious reasons!
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 55 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 19-Sep-2003 00:40 GMT
Nice, but I don't find the idea of wasting the only PCI slot just for a Firewire card thrilling.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 56 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 19-Sep-2003 01:07 GMT
I get so tired of asking this...but where's the f***ing OS? Oh, wait, being developed for creaky old broken down 200mhz Commodore hardware, that's where.

:-/
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 57 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 19-Sep-2003 01:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (JoannaK):
> Eva: I would like to know what info you have on basis to this
> comment.

Eva has nothing except stupid clueless knee-jerk negativity. (Unless it's
Pegasos/MorphOS, in which case you get stupid clueless knee-jerk
worshipfulness.) I thought this was common knowledge and not worth responding
to anymore.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 58 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by AmigaGuy on 19-Sep-2003 02:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (sutro):
@sutro
>>Nice, but I don't find the idea of wasting the only PCI slot just for a Firewire card thrilling.

If it has USB2.0 then I believe you can get a hub that has both USB2.0 as well as Firewire ports on it. Atleast, I beleive I've seen these around.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 59 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Jürgen Schober on 19-Sep-2003 03:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (JoannaK):
> Where is Radeon's memory .. if it's underside, ok, if it uses shared
>memory trough Articis-S then definitely not ok.

Guess what, Radeon M7/M8/M9 have up to 64 MB ON-DIE RAM.

cheers
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 60 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by James Carroll on 19-Sep-2003 03:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Some Farker):
"I get so tired of asking this...but where's the f***ing OS? Oh, wait, being developed for creaky old broken down 200mhz Commodore hardware, that's where. "

Plans have changed. Hyperion are now working on getting it booting on the AmigaOne, with the CSPPC version to be finished after the A1 version. This was in the latest CAM issue.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 61 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by tonya on 19-Sep-2003 03:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (James Carroll):
people running out of accusations now or?
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 62 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 19-Sep-2003 03:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (hooligan/dcs):
Yep... *drools*

Cheers
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 63 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 19-Sep-2003 03:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
What MOS news? Oh, and, Pot, Kettle, Black?

Cheers
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 64 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 19-Sep-2003 03:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Jeff):
Floppy? What's that? ;)

Cheers
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 65 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 19-Sep-2003 05:09 GMT
Good :

Formfactor
"Clean" design (compared to the rather messy old A1s
Lots of on-board componets

Bad:

Only one PCI-slot (and no this can't be cured with a riser, as you would
still need some extra signals for the 2nd/3rd slot. Just like the small
riser-slot on the Peg).

ArticiaS, that chip isn't getting any younger (or better), and won't be
able to stand up against the competion in 2004.
VIA686B, the probraly worst SB ever made by VIA. Hardto understand why they
didn't use this redisgn to introduce something less problematic.

SO_DIMMs, these are basiclly normal SD_RAMs for Notebook at a premium price.
Not such a wise descision when you remebere that both kinds areallready at
the end of their life-time,and will get hard to get pretty soon.

Verdict:
Makes only sense when it can be offered in an "A500-A1200"-style, ready to run
at a cut-down-price. In these days that would mean >400EURO including tax and
components.

Bout USB2/FW:
This would require extra chips (which I don't see) as none of that is in the
used chipset.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 66 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 19-Sep-2003 05:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Kronos):
It will have USB 2.0.

The VIA 686B is only used for things like mouse and keyboard, serial, parallel.

To the best of my knowledge, the idea was to put a Raid controller on the thing.

The CPU card can be swapped out (uses the same Megarray as the AmigaOne).

Firewire undecided.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 67 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 05:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Eva):
>Absolutely agree. This product will never be released and is a joke :(
>How can people really think that it's real?

You are one pessimistic person...
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 68 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 05:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Could you PLEASE talk/threaten Allan into putting firewire on it!
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 69 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anony Mouse on 19-Sep-2003 06:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Kronos):
> Only one PCI-slot (and no this can't be cured with a riser, as you would
> still need some extra signals for the 2nd/3rd slot. Just like the small
> riser-slot on the Peg).

This is not true. I don't know if the AmigaOne Lite can use a Risercard, but all VIA Epia Boards can use one and they also have only a "normal" PCI Slot on the Board.

For VIA Epia Boards this means:

You can put a PCI Card directly in the OnBoard PCI Slot or you can put a Risercard in this slot.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 70 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 06:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (Anonymous):
Allan = Alan Redhouse?

That'd be like asking Crazy Ted at Crazy Ted's Used Car Emporium to ship the latest model Fords with another chassis. Crazy Ted doesn't design cars and he has no influence on car design, he just sells what he can get. Alan doesn't design computer hardware, and he has no influence on hardware design, he sells what he can get.
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Posted by Olegil on 19-Sep-2003 06:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Anony Mouse):
Correct.
The thing Kronos doesn't understand is that there is 4 interrupt signals per slot, the difference between slots is which interrupt is wired to which pin.

In the PCI world, interrupts are numbered from A to D. So the first slot would have interrupts A B C D wired as eg 7 9 10 11, while slot two would have 9 10 11 7. This is how it works. Some cards even use more than one interrupt. A riser card would then take the four interrupts and distribute them out to the other slots, rotating them on the way. This works. Kronos is wrong :-)
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 72 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 19-Sep-2003 06:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Kjetil):
Ok, I see the parallell port, but I don't see a serial port. Where did you see the serial port?

Specs as far as I can see:
1x 3com ethernet (100Mbps)
2x USB (12Mbps)
1x SODIMM memory (would prefer regular memory, but I understand the decision)
1x PCI slot (riser card possible)
2x UDMA100
1x VGA
1x Y/C video output (aka S-Video. S-VHS is something else ;-) )
1x PS/2 mouse port
1x PS/2 keyboard port
1x ATX PSU input
1x gameport (midi/joystick)
3x audio (in/out/mic? in/out/headphones? should be one of those two, anyway :-) )
1x megarray connector (for G3 or G4 CPU board. I honestly thought it would have a soldered-on G3, but I can live with this one ;-) )

Radeon something onboard, ArticiaS and VIA686B (I'm not too happy with the 686B, but as I understand VIA is the only company selling these kind of chips in small batches (we're talking less than 10000, which is TINY in the consumer electronics business...), and they have refused to update the PCI southbridges because there's no market for it...

Nice touch with the Y/C output. I liked that one :-)
Lack of floppy is something I can live with. USB compactflash readers are a dime a dozen, so I'll be using that :-)
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 73 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 19-Sep-2003 07:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (Anonymous):
"Alan doesn't design computer hardware, and he has no influence on hardware design, he sells what he can get."

As Eyetech is the European distributor for MAI's boards, I think his views as to what will sell would have some influence on the designs.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 74 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by AdmV on 19-Sep-2003 07:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Don Cox):
Not knowing any better, and given the limited info I know of, I would say this is a complete hoax. I could be wrong.

I have never heard of Soft3, an Italian company apparently impinging on Eyetech's euro sales rights, but hey, maybe I just know nothing.

Either way I have ZERO interest in this board

AdmV
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Posted by Peter Gordon on 19-Sep-2003 07:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (AdmV):
Soft3 are an official AmigaONE dealer. Eyetech have given permission to soft3 to host the pictures.

Eyetech themselves posted the pictures to the private A1 developer list.

This is not a hoax, it is pictures of an actual pre-production prototype AmigaONE Lite, whos specifications could still change.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 76 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 19-Sep-2003 07:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (AdmV):
Also....

"an Italian company apparently impinging on Eyetech's euro sales rights"

Huh? There is a worldwide AmigaONE dealer network, and SEVERAL dealers in europe.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 77 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Herm:a on 19-Sep-2003 07:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Peter Gordon):
This is not a hoax.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 78 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 19-Sep-2003 07:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Ben Herm:a):
Ahem, still not a hoax.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 79 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Olegil on 19-Sep-2003 07:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Peter Gordon):
Heh, Soft3 is an AmigaOne dealer, yes.

But as to the question of permission to host the pictures... ;-)

Max was a bit quick on this one. But as long as everyone understands that this is a pre-production board (and I realise that my own comment above only adds to the confusion, sorry. I was half-asleep and very confused myself at the time :-) ) we shouldn't have a problem. The specs from this picture seems to be like I mentioned above, the final board will have USB2 and IEEE1394, apparently.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 80 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by AnoCow on 19-Sep-2003 07:50 GMT
it looks a bit like the A600 from Commodore, I doubt that this board will find its market. Hopefully its not a DOA like the A600 was.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 81 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anony Maus on 19-Sep-2003 08:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Eva):
> Ehrm but no-one noticed that PEGASOS BOARD ia a MINI-ATX ultra
> optimized?!?!?!?
I noticed it some time ago. Do you feel better now? But Mini-ITX is a lot smaller than Mini(Micro)-ATX. Btw. the AmigaOne Lite have nothing to do with the Pegasos. What is your problem?
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 82 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by EZ on 19-Sep-2003 08:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Anony Maus):
Why you even bother replying to such posts is simply beond me.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 83 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 19-Sep-2003 08:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Olegil):
Eh, so you're saying this board will have, in addition to what we can already see (ATI gfx, VIA 686B, Articia, etc), USB 2.0, Firewire and Raid?

Where exactly would the required extra chips for that fit on this board?


- CISC
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 84 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 19-Sep-2003 08:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
The mails on the A1 developer list confirm that there are still features to be added to the board. I can't post the actual mails because I wish to remain on that list, but... wait and see, i guess :)
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 85 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anony Maus on 19-Sep-2003 08:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
> Where exactly would the required extra chips for that fit on this board?

First USB and Firewire Controller Chips are not really big chips and second the board have two sides. As you can see on this Pentium-M Mini-ITX board ( http://www.epiacenter.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=181&mode=&order=0&thold=0 ) it is also possible to use both sides.

I think with Firewire and USB 2 the board is more competitive for digital videorecorder or Multimedia PCs for the living room. But I think for this, digital audio output is also needed. An AmigaOne Lite with this features and with a good price have good chances. It can still be a little, but not too much, more expensive as the VIA boards because it have more CPU power and better graphics.

A RAID Chip on the AmigaOne Lite makes the board also more interessting for Mini-Servers. But I think it is difficult to compete against the VIA boards here, because this boards would be much cheaper. For a homeserver I think, Wake On LAN for the integrated Ethernet port would be much more important on the AmigaOne Lite than RAID, because it is nice to switch the homeserver on over the network.

Btw. the RAID controller can also eventually avoid problems with the VIA686b integrated IDE controller, because the IDE controller in the 686b ist simply not used if a IDE RAID Controller is used.
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Posted by Don Cox on 19-Sep-2003 08:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 80 (AnoCow):
"it looks a bit like the A600 from Commodore, I doubt that this board will find its market. Hopefully its not a DOA like the A600 was."

It all depends on price. The reason the A600 failed was that it was planned as a much cheaper alternative to the A500, and ended up being actually more expensive.

If the small AmigaOne board is priced reasonably, it should sell quite well. A good aim would be to price a complete computer (except monitor) at the same as an A1200 when that was first released.
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Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 19-Sep-2003 08:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Peter Gordon):
You can add as many features as you like, but actually fitting them into a confined space is quite another matter. ;)

..the prototype in that picture is already cramped, how are you supposed to fit *new* chips onto there while *keeping* the old?


- CISC
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Posted by Olegil on 19-Sep-2003 09:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Sigbjørn Skjæret):
You don't listen, do you?

We only see one side of the board. It's possible that there is room on the other side, or that the internal wiring could be spread over more layers.

This is not the final product, it's just a pre-production test.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 89 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 09:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Kjetil):
>way add old standards like parallel port and serial ports, they are hardly used any more, new products should not base it self on out dated standards

They are useful for attaching a LCD display (quite popular with mini-itx boards).
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 90 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 19-Sep-2003 09:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Olegil):
Whaaaaaaaat?????
Putting ICs on the back-side of the board ?

Now that sounds like a good idea......NOT ;)
(CISC wasn't writing about additional traces, but where the chips will go).

Adding more layers is also not a perfect solution, as this will increase
the price of production (and the whole concept only makes sense at an cut-
down-price).
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 91 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 19-Sep-2003 09:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 88 (Olegil):
Adding those features will need a redesign of the shown board,
that goes beyound minor modifactions.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 92 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 09:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (John Block):
>I understand that buyers of amigaones have gone overwhelmingly for G4 So the follow up is ..... A G3 board.

So what? People choose the G4 because they think it is faster. But the obvious advantage, its altivec unit, is for vector math. Good for benchmarks but in real life, what's the use?! Gfx cards have their own hardware, you won't even need it for games, and for the OS, it's useless anyway. It might be useful for calculating prime numbers ;-) I think a non-G4 is a reasonable choice. Clock and cache is more important.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 93 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 19-Sep-2003 09:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 91 (Kronos):
With respect Kronos, you are talking out of your arse.

You are saying what they can and can't do, using an authoritative tone, with a design you have only seen in a non-closeup photo showing one side of the board, where you cannot clearly make out traces, or part numbers.

It is also not uncommon for ITX motherboards to have a couple of surface mount chips on the other side of the board.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 94 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 09:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (Kronos):
>Only one PCI-slot (and no this can't be cured with a riser, as you would
still need some extra signals for the 2nd/3rd slot. Just like the small
riser-slot on the Peg).

That depends on the boards alone. VIA's mini-itx boards can have risers with two slots (in that case you need a special riser with cables that connect to pins on the board).

> ArticiaS, that chip isn't getting any younger (or better), and won't be
able to stand up against the competion in 2004.

Average users don't even now what "northbridge" or "artica" is (a drink?), they couldn't care less. If the board works, fine. It's certainly going to be fast enough for that kind of CPU.

>SO_DIMMs, these are basiclly normal SD_RAMs for Notebook at a premium price.
Not such a wise descision

You don't know if the final board will have that RAM, do you? As to "wise decision", if you don't have the space to add regular memory, that's the end of all dicussion. VIA boards have the gfx core in the chipset and thus more space. But OTOH their gfx core is horrible, at least on their cheaper boards.

> Makes only sense when it can be offered in an "A500-A1200"-style, ready to run

What are you smoking? Are other mini-itx boards offered in "A500-A1200" style cases? I don't think so. These are cool boards, small, quiet, and everything "on board" which gives a good overall price. And with a PPC rather than the C3, they have something going for them. You can do a lot of things with small boards.

> a cut-down-price. In these days that would mean >400EURO including tax and
components.

Top-of-the-range VIA mini-itx @ 1GHZ costs around 150 EUR. That's "VIA GHz", it doesn't compare to normal "PC GHz". For example, their 800 MHZ board is only as fast as a 450 MHz Celeron. In other words, the Amiga mini-itx is probably faster than the best VIA board and that alone would justify a price above 150 EUR. IMHO 150 EUR to 250 EUR would be fine.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 95 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 19-Sep-2003 09:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (Anonymous):
>Average users don't even now what "northbridge" or "artica" is

It doesn't matter wether they know or not, the Articiajust can't
compete on a matterof performance.

>You don't know if the final board will have that RAM, do you?

How should I ?? A was onlymaking statements on the version shown in
the pictures (and changing the RAM would off-course mean more
redesign-work).

>Are other mini-itx boards offered in "A500-A1200" style cases?

And when did I write about "A500-A1200-style cases" ???
> "A500-A1200"-style, ready to run< means just that, "an easy to use,
no install needed setup" at an affordable price.

>Top-of-the-range VIA mini-itx @ 1GHZ costs around 150 EUR.....

Yes ????? An complete A1-ITX with case,HD,RAM,KBD .... should be under
400 Euro tobe able to compete with similar setups featuring x86-CPUs
(and yes there are ITX-boards with CPUs better than VIA).
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 96 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by 3.5 form factor on 19-Sep-2003 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 81 (Anony Maus):
if your really into the coolest form factors, keeping mind this
isn't a PPC take a look at this baby, cool spec for the size.

http://www.arbor.com.tw/mini/emcore-v611.htm
ftp://ftp.arbor.com.tw/pub/images/miniboards/EmCORE-v611.jpg

as for the A1-lite, i still find it strange that they put
a S-video on there (good), but no 5 or 6 way sound system,
just bog standard sound, would you want to wast the PCi slot
for sound upgradeing ?, far better to use that for TV-in card
or something far more interesting dont you think.

using a riser card might be an option for some but what if
people want to use say this standard type case
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/tranquilpc.asp
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/images/tranquil4L.jpg

its using a SINGLE SO-dimm connector so were does that
fit as regards the older A1 needing special reg'ed ram because
of voltage problems or whatever that reason was ?, as i understand it
SO-dimms MEM/SODIMM/LAPTOP/256 :- 256MB SODIMM LAPTOP MEMORY £31.48 +vat
are just normal MEM/SDIMM/168/256/PC133 :- 256M 168PIN SYNC-DRAM DIMM ( 32Mx64 ) FOR P.C.133 £26.80 +vat in a different size package, Plus i'v never seen any
SODIMM in anything bigger than 256MB at a reasonable price (and thats wintel retail).
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 97 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Kronos):
@Kronos

> Whaaaaaaaat?????
> Putting ICs on the back-side of the board ?

For boards of this size and density it is commonplace to mount SMD components on both sides of the board and the PCB would have at least 6 layers. This is not materially more expensive in the scheme of things.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 98 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 10:08 GMT
Some of the discussions about "it must have *this and that* feature" on here are all very nice, but has anyone actually noticed this is an A1-*LITE*, which implies it is some sort of lesser-spec'd, cheaper machine. If you want top-notch features, they aren't going to be on a LITE version.
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 99 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anony Maus on 19-Sep-2003 10:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Anonymous):
> If you want top-notch features, they aren't going to be on a LITE version.

Maybe "AmigaOne Lite" is the wrong name and "AmigaOne Mini" is beter. ;-)
Photos of the A1-Lite : Comment 100 of 115ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Sep-2003 10:49 GMT
Why does everyone keep complaining about Fireware?
There ARE good USB2.0 alternatives...

On another note, if this board comes to fruition,
and OS4 supports the on-board sound, gfx, NIC, gameport,
and USB, and it's priced reasonably low, I will
certainly buy one (maybe two!) in a jiffy.
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