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[News] Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org MagazineANN.lu
Posted on 22-Sep-2003 12:58 GMT by Kees (Edited on 2003-09-22 15:36:42 GMT by Christophe Decanini)58 comments
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Behind the scenes, a lot of people have been working on the launch of a new, printed, monthly (11 issues a year) worldwide Amiga Magazine. Amiga.org Magazine will will aim at Amiga and Pegasos users and will have 52 pages in black & white with a full-colour cover. The magazine wil feature: news, interviews, reviews, previews, in-depth articles, 'how-to's, tutorials and lots more. Read more here.
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 51 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-Sep-2003 22:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Atheist2):
Retard.
That's not a personal attack--it's the only possible diagnosis.
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 52 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 22-Sep-2003 22:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Atheist2):
@Atheist2

> What will happen when Mr. Bill Buck tries to run a centerfold ad
> that states, "PegaSOS; Now running AOS4.0!!"

Probably the same that will happen when Amiga Inc try to run an advert saying MorphOS is pirated software. :/

It's an editorial decision, and I'm sure the editorial team have enough integrity to ensure they are not used in any way that could be seen as unethical. I'd say "don't worry about it until you have some reason to believe unethical advertising has been used".

> Also, any chance of having a cover CD? Any point to having one?

Purely a personal opinion, but I'd have to say "no point" at this time. There really isn't enough material to support a monthly CD, as I'm quite sure Neil Bothwick, who compiled the CDs for AmigActive, would testify.

> Also, many years ago, there was a magazine (.info) that PROUDLY TRUMPETED
> that it was entirely produced on Amigas (except for some ads).

Except for the adverts and the printing, so did(does) Total Amiga. Robert only switched to Amithlon when his Amiga hardware failed.

> With our new found power, to ME, it is [b]unacceptatble[/b] that an Amiga
>(and derivatives) magazine be done with ANY OTHER computer!!!!!

Piffle.

Who cares? The most important thing is that the job is done properly with whatever the editor thinks are the right tools for the task and whatever he is comfortable with. If that's an Amiga based system fine, and if not that's equally fine.

"Best tool for the job". There can be no other criteria.

Incidentally, AFAIK the magazine will be put together using PageStream, as is the case with Total Amiga.
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 53 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 22-Sep-2003 23:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Atheist2):
> Also, many years ago, there was a magazine (.info) that PROUDLY TRUMPETED that it was entirely produced on Amigas (except for some ads).

AUI also did that.
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 54 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Sep-2003 01:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Jack Stewert):
< Amiga.org is pro Morphos only and this mag will be a Genesi loving

You must mean MorphOS loving mag because what's the atttraction with Genesi? Let the dice roll; if MorphOS turns out to be better than AmigaOS4, why not? And vice versa. If one is considerably better, these is no sense in supporting the other.
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Posted by Atheist2 on 23-Sep-2003 02:48 GMT
Hi Bill Hoggett,

> It's an editorial decision, and I'm sure the editorial team have enough integrity
> to ensure they are not used in any way that could be seen as unethical. I'd say
> "don't worry about it until you have some reason to believe unethical advertising
> has been used".

Sounds good to me. :)

As for a CD, I thought that might be a drawback (lack of content), and with broadband, what's the point? But not everyone has access to broadband. Then there's pictures/vids, Aminet stuff, and even imagine old Amiga.org threads on disc. Lots of knowledge (and insanity ;) ) is locked up in there.


> Who cares? The most important thing is that the job is done properly with whatever
> the editor thinks are the right tools for the task and whatever he is comfortable with.
> If that's an Amiga based system fine, and if not that's equally fine.

> "Best tool for the job". There can be no other criteria.

How could a person inspire confidence in an "Amiga" solution if OUR "solution" is to use an alternate platform? If Genesi or Hyperion go make TV commercials, you'd find it acceptable to edit the sound and video with linux or mac?

When do we use the equipment WE develop?

We're here because we think WE have the best tech for any purpose. Let's prove it, by using it.

And I am neutral, whether it's a PegaSOS or AmigaXL etc., doesn't matter to me, for the mag production.
As long as all of the systems/SW used gets mentioned in the same sized type (and if logos are printed the same size applied to all) on the editorial page. (Or the page with address and circulation info.)


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Hi sutro, Comment 53

>AUI also did that.

Nice trivia. Thanks.


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Hi Anonymous (62.42.228.20) from Comment 51

Please explain. I asked a couple questions and made some statements. I'm not opposed to this, just have some concerns. What is it that you didn't like?

Or do you just feel that way about what I say based on my overall commentary on ANN.lu?


Amiga! We're here, because we CAN do it better!
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 56 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 23-Sep-2003 05:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Daniel Miller):
> How about ANN magazine? ;)

"ANNother Amiga Mag"!
:-)
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 57 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 23-Sep-2003 07:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Bill Hoggett):
Bill Hoggett says:

> Who cares? The most important thing is that the job is done properly
> with whatever the editor thinks are the right tools for the task and
> whatever he is comfortable with. If that's an Amiga based system
> fine, and if not that's equally fine.

I disagree. My opinion is that it is *better* to use Amiga or MorphOS software for magazines and whatever other community support publications. It is just a symbolic demonstration that the platform is a workable solution. Hyperion released a Powerpoint presentation with a lot of fanfare and I just think it sends the wrong message.
Its Time for a New Amiga Magazine - Its Time for Amiga.org Magazine : Comment 58 of 58ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 23-Sep-2003 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Atheist2):
@Atheist2

> Then there's pictures/vids, Aminet stuff, and even imagine old Amiga.org
> threads on disc. Lots of knowledge (and insanity ;) ) is locked up in
> there.

Not worth the extra work needed to compile it, not to mention the production cost. There just isn't enough fresh quality material to fill a monthly CD, so you'd end up with 90% dross and re-distributed stuff.

> How could a person inspire confidence in an "Amiga" solution if OUR
> "solution" is to use an alternate platform? If Genesi or Hyperion go make
> TV commercials, you'd find it acceptable to edit the sound and video with
> linux or mac?

Yes? If the choice is between a good result using Linux or Mac and a poor result using an Amiga, absolutely.

> We're here because we think WE have the best tech for any purpose.

You having a laugh! That hasn't been true for over a decade, and it most certainly isn't true now. To be honest, there aren't many puposes for which Amiga technology is the best any more, and that includes the new systems and software. We're playing catch-up. It's a fact of life we have to learn to deal with, and I don't think sticking our heads in the sand and screaming loudly that we are still the best is the way to do so.

@Daniel Miller

> I disagree. My opinion is that it is *better* to use Amiga or MorphOS
> software for magazines and whatever other community support publications.
> It is just a symbolic demonstration that the platform is a workable
> solution. Hyperion released a Powerpoint presentation with a lot of
> fanfare and I just think it sends the wrong message.

I agree, provided the end result does not suffer because of it. If you end up with an inferior result by using Amiga or MorphOS software rather than something else, you are not advertising strength, but weakness.

"It might not be very good, but it's workable" is not a winning slogan.

If the Amiga developers want people to use their software to produce magazines, presentations, videos etc., they had better produce the BEST software available, not just on the Amiga, but on any platform.
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