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[Web] NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware ComputersANN.lu
Posted on 26-Sep-2003 10:10 GMT by Peter Gordon22 comments
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The NC/SC Amiga Users Group has interviewed Mr. Hardware Computers for an insight into being an Amiga dealer in today's market, and what has kept them involved over the last few years.

Read the full interview here.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 1 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by jules on 26-Sep-2003 09:53 GMT
"I think there will be a big shortage of AmigaOne's when OS4.0 is released at the end of October"

Mmmmmm, even Hyperion won't commit to a date publically and they're programming it. So, either he simply amde a mistake in cinstructing his sentence, or he has let slip some sort of insider non-public estimation.
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Posted by jules on 26-Sep-2003 09:59 GMT
<sigh> well, apart from the obvious spelling errors in my last post (cinstructing = constructing, amde = made), I also meant to add that whatever happens going forward, I hope that he (and the rest of the Amiga retailers still out there) start to reap some decent rewards for hanging in there with such a difficult market for so long. For all you Amiga retailers out there, the best of luck.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 3 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 26-Sep-2003 12:30 GMT
"The future looks bright!"

Amen to that. What only puzzles me is how Jim Collas comes into the picture...
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 4 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 26-Sep-2003 12:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Emeric SH):
Well, Jim Collas was very good at evangelising and inspiring enthusiasm. Once OS4 is out, someone like that would be quite useful. I think thats all he meant.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 5 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Sep-2003 13:38 GMT
Nice interview - thanks to all parties involved.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 6 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by redfox on 26-Sep-2003 14:22 GMT
Nice interview. Very upbeat.

As for the October part, ;) ;) ... I don't think he has a crystal ball.

I think he is just suggesting that we should make up our minds if we want an AmigaOne before OS4 comes out, because there may be a line-up if we wait until after OS4 comes out.

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redfox
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 7 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 26-Sep-2003 16:12 GMT
OS4 will not be released in October.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 8 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 26-Sep-2003 16:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (redfox):
@redfox,

I took it to mean, we should purchase an AmigaONE from Mr. Hardware computers, because

1)OS 4 will be out in October (not true)
and
2) There will be a shortage of AmigaONE's after the OS 4 release (not true)

it wasn't entirely sinister, but no one should buy an AmigaONE
until after OS 4 is out and a few people have tested it...at least let the
BAF'ers test it and give their opinion, if they don't even like it, then
you'll be glad you saved your money.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 9 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 26-Sep-2003 17:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (MarkTime):
Marktime, let time decide what's true and what isn't. You, are in any case not in the position to tell right now anyway.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 10 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by MarkTime on 26-Sep-2003 19:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (reflect):
time will decide whether my statement is true, just as it will judge Mr.Hardware's statements.

everyone should in fact wait, to see if the statements of Mr. Hardware are true, before they make any purchase.

If that's what you meant, I do agree.

I've been in this community for to many years, and seen to many of my friends lose their money, to advise anything else...or to be QUIET about it.
I care about this community, and I can't do any less.
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Posted by Anonymous on 26-Sep-2003 20:38 GMT
Marktime you donīt care about this comunity, you care about pegasos/morphos market.
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Posted by secret on 26-Sep-2003 21:13 GMT
Hopefully this site wont become filled with people bent on Attacking the Amiga at every turn like amiga.org is. The AmigaOne is available now and I have seen a OS4.0 demonstration so it is not just talk.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 13 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 26-Sep-2003 22:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (jules):
This talk of "shortage at time of release (soon)" ain't nothing more
than one resellers daydream.. Or marketting attempt to improve
lagging sales so he could get his warehouse clear of those
non-sellign goods. "Purchase now, and get Free OS Later".. Seen those
around Amiga a bit too many times allready.


Or have everybody allready forgotten those 'OS4 iin few weeks'
campaigns KDH kept year ago?
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 14 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Sep-2003 22:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (JoannaK):
is your opinion.I hope that you never use amigaos4 when this arrive.

but you will always be here to criticize it.--->This is the national sport in ann.lu :)
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Posted by JoannaK on 26-Sep-2003 22:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
Well.. IF OS4 one day matures to usable level, and have some
softwwares that justify money spend to use it. I'd indeed may. But
with current track record I'd keep np hurry on having a board for it.

In case you don't know.. A year ago I remcommended peole not to
purchase Aones until OS4 is available cause they would e using Linux
for months.. Quite frankly I didn't expect them to had to use it well
over a year, but .. In the end. it's their money.. so they are free to
do what they want.

So? Are you one of those wannabees with Windowse PC?
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Posted by smp266 on 27-Sep-2003 04:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (JoannaK):
I'm at the point that I really don't care what happens. I have many great memories on Amiga that I need to hold onto. Plus the dreams of outdoing the Wintel box and making the Mac look like it was designed for toddlers.
If only for sentimental value I shall still make use of an Amiga and/or Pegasos.

I trust your wisdom JoannaK and take it into consideration when choosing which and when to buy.
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Posted by Don Cox on 27-Sep-2003 05:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Peter Gordon):
"Well, Jim Collas was very good at evangelising and inspiring enthusiasm. Once OS4 is out, someone like that would be quite useful. I think thats all he meant."

What is really needed is somebody like David Pleasance, who had a genius for selling large numbers of Amigas to store chains.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 18 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by EyeAm on 27-Sep-2003 06:40 GMT
I think it'll be more like December, rather than October, for Amiga OS 4.0.
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 27-Sep-2003 06:52 GMT
Allready has one A1 model (the SE) been discontinued and replaced by another (the XE). In a few months(?) the "Lite" model will be released, which in most areas will have much better specifications than the XE. My guess is that the A1 Lite will replace the XE as a "base model", and that a "power model" that will be more configurable (with PPC 970?) will be announced later on.

What I wanted to say was that new and better models might be released, the prices may go down, etc. So why the rush? The SE owners bought an expensive motherboard and still they can't use it as an Amiga. By the time they can, their expensive motherboard will be quite outdated compared to the by then available (cheaper?) alternatives. Of course, everyone spends their money the way they choose, but wouldn't it be wise to simply wait and see?

Who knows, maybe OS4 *will* be released at the end of the next month (allthough I seriously doubt it, based on the recent show reports)?
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 20 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Sep-2003 08:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (MarkTime):
..and what position of authority do you hold?

none.

ie you cannot be listened to for any such statements.
NCSCAUG Interviews Mr. Hardware Computers : Comment 21 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 27-Sep-2003 11:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (takemehomegrandma):
/*
Already has one A1 model (the SE) been discontinued and replaced by another (the XE). In a few months(?) the "Lite" model will be released, which in most areas will have much better specifications than the XE. My guess is that the A1 Lite will replace the XE as a "base model", and that a "power model" that will be more configurable (with PPC 970?) will be announced later on.
*/

I think the lite version target a different area of usage, even so it sames that has every thing i need, so do I need a lager card? I think there are other areas as well, I think this card we SE now will be replaced when the PPC970 comes out, I mean it be stupid to use sdram on faster CPU, they should move on to the DDRAM at lest, the lite version of the board I can't be found at my local dealer www.dkpc.no yet.
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Posted by Secret on 30-Sep-2003 16:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Kjetil):
In responce to " My guess is that the A1 Lite will replace the XE as a "base model""
That's like saying the a1200 was the replacement for the a2000. They are completely different models.
Hey ya think after 10 years of waiting for new Amiga's people would invest in the future of Amiga
instead of saying hey let's wait some more. If everyone was like this there would never be a new Amiga
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