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[News] Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former AttorneysANN.lu
Posted on 02-Oct-2003 05:11 GMT by Rich Woods (Edited on 2003-10-02 07:15:20 GMT by Christian Kemp)427 comments
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Amiga's Attorneys Are Granted Leave Leaving Amiga with NO Legal Representation. "This court hereby orders, judges and decrees, that Diana S. Shukis, Stephen P. VanDerhoef & Cairncross & Hempelmann P.S. may withdraw as counsel of record for Defendant Amiga, Inc. The withdrawal is effective immediately upon entry of this Order.

DONE IN OPEN COURT this 30th day of September, 2003.

/s/

Robert S. Lasnik"

Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 101 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Matt Parsons):
Give me a break, yes there would have been. Eyetech and Hyperion would have seen to it.

Matt I have yet to see you post anything positive about the Amiga community or Amiga inc itself. You are firmly in the Anti-Amiga inc camp.

Think all you wrongly want, Amiga inc. is still here

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 102 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Mikey C):
> Well Dammy why don`t you take some more vaseline and keep taking the
> portions, you paymasters keep delivering up your rear? :)

What, more lies from you in one day Mike? Have you no shame at all?

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 103 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Mikey C):
> Seriously why do you honestly think Amiga can`t deliver coupons and T-Shirts?
> - Serious answer expected here.

Seriously!? GUFFAW!
Then why haven't they? Money shouldn't be the problem, as the customers already paid for them.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 104 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (EyeAm):
> Yeah, but Mikey C is funnier :)

He's also a liar. ;-(

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 105 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 02-Oct-2003 11:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (itix):
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Posted by itix (130.234.6.70) on 02-Oct-2003 11:32:43
In Reply to Comment 52:
Ah, mystery of delayed OS4 is solved! Hyperion delayed completion of OS4 because Amiga Inc is lagging behind.
----

Itix be carefull with words :D
Ben or Bill can kick you out of your AOs4 involvment for your words like they did with some betatesters.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 106 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by MIkey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 103 (T_Bone):
T-Bone on AW you present a pro Amiga stance, elsewhere well....

As I said before, but for those who can`t read, Amiga`s money keeps going on Lawyers because some competitor is hoping to bankrupt them via letigation and fees. That`s where the money is going to. Do you think Corporate lawyers are cheap???

Well at least I`ll know where you are coming from next time you post on AW.

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 107 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Mikey C):
> Bah, If Amiga weren`t being taken to court needlesly by a competitor on very
> thin grounds, Amiga would have more money (snip)

Dead wrong.

Amiga has been ordered bu the court INDIPENDANTLY of the thendic case that they must pay the emplyees the wages they failed to pay. Amiga was broke when they made the T-Sirt offer. The Thendic case is ttally irrelevant to their financial status.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 108 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 02-Oct-2003 11:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (dammy):
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Oh, let me try this one. They failed to produce the coupons and T-Shirts because they failed to use the monies given to them by sCAM/Party Pack in accordance to the agreement they made with those purchasers. In other words Mike_C, they did failed to use those funds in the Party Pack nor sCAM in to even come close to completing their end. Shall we take a peak at US Code 18?
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MMM so Bill and Fleccy spend all they money in vacancies????
Or excuse me can you tell me HOW AmigaInc spend their money???
They produced nothing a part some AmigaDe SoftDevKit.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 109 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 107 (T_Bone):
Sorry T-Bone on what facts do you base that allegation?

Do you know for sure that Amiga were skint at the time?

Where is the evidence?

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 110 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Mikey C):
> after all you are only getting your informaition from one source. So therefore
> you are not aware of what the other side are saying.

The "other side" are not saying anything, or, like you, are saying "I know differently, but it's a 'seeecret'" So you arn't saying anything.

If there's "another angle" I'd be glad to hear it, but if you're not saying anything, it's not anyone elses fault that nobody is listening to it.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 111 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 02-Oct-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Amon_Re):
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Posted by Amon_Re (Trusted user) on 02-Oct-2003 12:33:18
In Reply to Comment 36:
It's a point of view that i understand.

My take on it? *IF* Genesi has a valid licence for the DE, then they are in my opinion doing things i can accept, +IF NOT* they're trying to kill of the competition in any means possible, a dispicable tactic, but sadly very common

I just don't trust BBRV.
---------

Eheheh Amon, for an AMigaINC blind followers like you there was no doubt :D
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 112 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (MIkey C):
> As I said before, but for those who can`t read, Amiga`s money keeps
> going on Lawyers because some competitor is hoping to bankrupt them
> via letigation and fees. That`s where the money is going to. Do you
> think Corporate lawyers are cheap???

Do you have actual proof that Amiga Inc has been paying their counsel or is this just more Mike's lies?

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 113 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (MIkey C):
> As I said before, but for those who can`t read, Amiga`s money keeps
> going on Lawyers because some competitor is hoping to bankrupt them
> via letigation and fees. That`s where the money is going to. Do you
> think Corporate lawyers are cheap???

Do you have actual proof that Amiga Inc has been paying their counsel or is this just more Mike's lies?

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 114 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 02-Oct-2003 11:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Mikey C):
> Do you know for sure that Amiga were skint at the time?

Why did Bill McEwen say the monies gained by sCAM was "rent money"?

Dammy
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 115 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (Mikey C):
> When OS4 Ships, then You can rightly say, where is the T-Shirt and Voucher?

No, peple can rightly say that NOW, as Amiga already made public beforehand when people would recieve them, and that time is a year old now with nothing showing up at peoples door like Amiga claimed.

Why would the shipping of OS4 have anything to do with other commitments they've made? What does OS4 change?
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 116 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 02-Oct-2003 11:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (Eva):
Uhm, I'm not sure if you understood my comment correctly. Amiga Inc lost its credibility in this community long ago, but Rassilon still expected Amiga users are their cheerleaders. We are not.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 117 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 113 (dammy):
Please feel free to keep sluring my charecter Dammy. I haven`t posted any lies on here, but I know you are trying to dicredit my good name.

Won`t work you know, first of all, no one on this forum has an ounce of respect for you, even your fellow MOS users shun you. The only person you can actually turn to comfort for is EVA. There is nothing remotely likeable about you. The minute you turn up every one else goes silent.

For myself I will say this, I work really hard to do positive stuff for the Amiga community, I help organise shows, promote a Magazine, run a usergroup, etc, etc. You and your buddy Eva, do nothing but whine and destroy. You are dishonest, a liar, a troll and a totally pathetic human being.

Please feel free to continue attacking me, your comments are akin to a chihuahua attacking an elephant. Ineffective

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 118 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by itix on 02-Oct-2003 11:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (Eva):
No prob, I used to be MorphOS betatester for Classic Amigas :) Never touched OS4.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 119 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (MIkey C):
> T-Bone on AW you present a pro Amiga stance, elsewhere well....

Excuse me? What does admitting that this is BAD NEWS have to do with "pro" or "anti"? This news is BAD NEWS, period.

Well at least I`ll know where you are coming from next time you post on AW.

It's called "Reality" and has nothing to do with the Agenda's that you are obsessing yourself with.

You crack me up.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 120 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Oct-2003 11:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Mikey C):
I tried not to but I *had* to reply on that one.
Please Mikey C, do not see it your way only, if Amiga Inc.
didn't do all these attacks and FUD attempts against a certain
party, this wouldn't have ever happened. It fired back. Face it,
please, firewalls won't help it.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 121 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 119 (T_Bone):
That`s the problem I see no bad news

Only those who want to see bad news will

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 122 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Mikey C):
> Sorry T-Bone on what facts do you base that allegation?

The fact that's when they stopped paying employees, as seen in federal court documents, the fact that they stopped paying rent, as seen in their TWO lawsuits with their landlord.

> Do you know for sure that Amiga were skint at the time?

Yes.

> Where is the evidence?

Given. It's not a "secret" either, but I'm sure your "evidence" to the contrary is.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 123 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Magic2003 on 02-Oct-2003 11:50 GMT
Look guys no one picks on Mikey_C with out me Picking on him firsy!:)
It is the law...........!
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 124 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Oct-2003 11:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (Mkey C):
Sorry, I knew about this when it actually begun, Genesi hired
that lawyer cause he had already won a case against that company.
That's howw it happened, no other way.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 125 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 120 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Hello Alkis, I wondered when you would drop in.

Hey were you summoned on here, or did you fall in by accident?

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 126 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 121 (Mikey C):
> That's the problem I see no bad news.

Well, at least you admit your problem.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 127 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Magic2003 on 02-Oct-2003 11:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 125 (Mikey C):
Hey were you summoned on here?

@Mikey_C

By a deep dark evil side of the amiga I was!:)
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 128 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Alkis you wrote.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Please Mikey C, do not see it your way only, if Amiga Inc.
didn't do all these attacks and FUD attempts against a certain
party, this wouldn't have ever happened. It fired back. Face it,
please, firewalls won't help it.
------------------------------------------------------------------

Excuse me? Amiga Inc were happily minding their own business. They didn`t fire the first shots. Care to elaborate? Or is it just FUD?

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 129 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Magic2003 on 02-Oct-2003 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (Mikey C):
FUD-FUD-FUD-FUD!
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 130 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (dammy):
>> Who knows, I just wonder if Richard will either post public documents on
>> it, or do it so timely given his agenda.

> Why? Is he intellectually dishonest or are you just spreading FUD? I'm sure you
> could ring up old SheepLord and have the court documents shipped to you for
> scanning that bare good news. There is good news, right DaveP? You would't be
> just there spreading FUD, would you?
> Dammy

Exactly which product does Mr. Woods offer that one could spread FUD about? You do know what FUD is, right?
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 131 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 02-Oct-2003 11:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (Mikey C):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Matt I have yet to see you post anything positive about the Amiga community or Amiga inc itself. You are firmly in the Anti-Amiga inc camp.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Yes, I make no claims to have any love for Mr McEwan or Mr Moss or anyone else who was in charge of Amino Inc./Amiga Inc.

I do however repsect Hyperion and Eyetech as much as I repsect Genesi. They are all producing products for this communty and good luck to them. I don't think this is a "one size fits all" community and I'm sure everyone will find the solution the suits their needs best.

The sooner the deadweight of Mr McEwan and Mr Moss has been cut away, and the Amiga Trade marks given to a decent management team, the happier I will be.

The current Company we call Amiga Inc. must be removed in order for this community to survive. And it is certain people who can't see that Amiga Inc. does not equal "Amiga" that keep it going, sapping every last ounce of value the Amiga Brand still has, if it even has any anymore...

I find it strange that you are so quick to defend Amiga Inc. and critisise Genesi especially since it could quite as easily have been Mr Buck who had bought the Trade marks and then you would be worshiping him... even if he had mesed up as massively as Amiga Inc. have.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 132 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Magic2003 on 02-Oct-2003 11:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Ketzer):
FUD = F*ck Unified D*cks
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 133 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 11:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (Mikey C):
> Excuse me? Amiga Inc were happily minding their own business.

"Get legal or be shut down"

> They didn`t fire the first shots.

Yes they did. "Get legal or be shut down" etc.

> Care to elaborate? Or is it just FUD?

Yes, "Get legal or be shut down" was just FUD, and now they are being called on it. If Amiga hadn't postured themselves in that way, and had not entered into contracts they had no intention of honoring, we would not be seeing this right now.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 134 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 11:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 124 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Alkis Wrote
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry, I knew about this when it actually begun, Genesi hired
that lawyer cause he had already won a case against that company.
That's howw it happened, no other way.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Really?

Interesting, I hear it quite different, obviously I won`t comment further because it may cock up any legal action that may/could arise from that.

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 135 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ronald on 02-Oct-2003 11:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (Mikey C):
Mikey C wrote.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Excuse me? Amiga Inc were happily minding their own business. They
didn`t fire the first shots. Care to elaborate? Or is it just FUD?
-------------------------------------------------------------------

When Amiga Inc failed to deliver the goods (and most probaby never will) then it's the concerned's business.

Those who bought the AmigaOne never received their 100$ back I presume, right?
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 136 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Magic2003 on 02-Oct-2003 11:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 133 (T_Bone):
Fight! Fight! Fight!:)
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 137 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (dammy):
> Do you have actual proof that Amiga Inc has been paying their counsel or is this just more Mike's lies?

> Dammy

Funny, do you have proof they did not or is that just more lies by you?
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 138 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 133 (T_Bone):
Sorry T-Bone, But the question was to Alkis

Would you kindly Butt out

Thanks

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 139 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Magic2003 on 02-Oct-2003 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Ketzer):
Yeah, I do, Ill just go and phone them up and ask:)
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 140 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Ketzer):
> Funny, do you have proof they did not or is that just more lies by you?

If they ARE paying them, they are violating court order, as they were ordered bu the federal court to pay the two employees their back pay FIRST.

So, no, no proof, just wishfull thinking, as it would be very BAD that they were violating court orders.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 141 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 119 (T_Bone):
> Excuse me? What does admitting that this is BAD NEWS have to do with "pro" or "anti"? This news is BAD NEWS, period.

Its "news", not necessarily "bad news". It were bad news if (like the "other side" claims) they left because they havent been paid.

> It's called "Reality" and has nothing to do with the Agenda's that you are obsessing yourself with.

Please note that you're already too prejudiced to think of "simple" reasons.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 142 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 138 (Mikey C):
> Sorry T-Bone, But the question was to Alkis
> Would you kindly Butt out

Go fish.
If you don't wan't to respond to it, just dont. Simple, no?

You really do crack me up.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 143 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Oct-2003 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Mikey C):
" Do you know for sure that Amiga were skint at the time?

Where is the evidence? "

Are you suggesting that it'd make ainc look BETTER if they actually HAD money, all the time, but they just didn't FEEL like paying rent, taxes, salaries and insurances? They didn't feel like paying all that so much that they even preferred to be sued over it, have liens issued against them and be evicted? They just didn't feel like sending 50 bucks and a T-shirt to their more gullible customers? Thay had money all the time, but just for the heck of it they didn't feel like using it to cover the most fundamental needs and prerequisites for any business activities? Well, six-figure salaries for the company executives were payed for two years, but, hey, they obviously could afford that little sacrifice, right...?

And THEN the Evil Thendic/Genesi appears out of nowhere, demanding unreasonable and sinister things like fulfillment of a bilaterally signed contract, which suddenly made ainc eager to pay their lawyers ALL of those VC and Microsoft millions they had been sitting on? And despite their lawyers apparently being so well-payed, they jump ship when it's revealed that ainc has $100 to spend and no income apart from trying to sell Tetris-for-WindowsCE/PocketPC on a website?

"Joham, "You care about the Amiga community, or you want to help it`s competitor rape what's left of it?" :( "

" Why are Amiga.inc skint?
Why haven`t they got any cash?
Where has the money gone? "

"Hey I`m not the one believing all the Anti-Amiga propaganda. You are! "

" After all people may buy an A1 and run Linux on it only. Why should they get their money back?"

" Seriously why do you honestly think Amiga can`t deliver coupons and T-Shirts?
- Serious answer expected here. "

"Well you can say all you like, but the "corpse" as you put it still has a corpse and I`ll wager that one day it`s gonna get up and kick some serious butt."


Were you born retarded, or did you have to work on it?
Or is all this a clever Mikey_C parody? Well done, in that case. A bit extreme perhaps.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 144 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 142 (T_Bone):
T-Bone, sorry no disrespect meant, but since I know that Alkis works for Genesi in some capacity or other, his text, has more significance than yours as a user.

Regards

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 145 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 02-Oct-2003 12:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Mikey C):
@Mikey_C

They lost those case (actually they defaulted on them,which is the same), and
were ordered to pay back-salaries (and more in other cases). They didn't appeal
the rulings within the given time.

Paying up on these court-rulings is legallybinding for AInc and not doing so while
having money would be a criminal offence.

So better hope they were skint at that tim ;=)

About seeing "the whole truth". These are hard and undenyingable (sp) facts,all
we get from the other sides are odd rumours and "good news real soon",stuff
we have heard for allmost 4 years now,and which in most cases failed to become
reality.

I find it midly amuseing that it is allways someone else responsible for AInc's
failures:

Sharp for no DE on the Zaurus. No it can't be that Sharp just wasn't so excited by
the actual content delivered from AInc when they finally went for QTopia after 1
year or so.And what is stopping AInc to deliver their great content on top of QT ?
Isn't that what the DE/AA was about (running "anywhere") ?

"on schedule and rocking" : No no McBillwasn't lying his head off it was the evil
bPlan all the way (hello spammy).

It was also Genesi who kicked AInc out of their offices,anybody who says it had
anything to do with them not paying the rent is just spreading FUD !!

And the fact that some employees had the f**king nerve to demand getting payed,
and even their medical-insurance covered is just a sign of the monstrous MorphOS-
conspiracy.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 146 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by T_Bone on 02-Oct-2003 12:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 141 (Ketzer):
>> It's called "Reality" and has nothing to do with the Agenda's that you are
>> obsessing yourself with.

> Please note that you're already too prejudiced to think of "simple" reasons.

"Simple" reasons? When your lawyer quits in the midst of federal proceedings, it's BAD NEWS, *especially* when Amiga Inc has a *history* of default judgements!

Explain differenty.

As for me being prejudiced, I'm afraid not. I have no stake in Amiga Inc OR Genesi, although I plan on purchasing both. What about you?

Hell, its the people who've "Already made their mind up" which product they will buy that are predjudiced, that's what it MEANS man, look it up!
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 147 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 133 (T_Bone):
>> Excuse me? Amiga Inc were happily minding their own business.
> "Get legal or be shut down"
>> They didn`t fire the first shots.
> Yes they did. "Get legal or be shut down" etc.
>> Care to elaborate? Or is it just FUD?
> Yes, "Get legal or be shut down" was just FUD, and now they are being called on it. If Amiga hadn't postured themselves in that way, and had not entered into contracts they had no intention of honoring, we would not be seeing this right now.

Was this ever directed at morhpos? There were and are several companies (potentially) using Amigas IP without permission. So why did everyone think of (todays) Genesi? Pure coincidence i suppose.

"Cant see how they did it without insight in the source code" certainly was however, but then again, I cant too. Coming from Amiga though, it is fair to consider it FUD. This makes it Amiga 1 to Genesi 10+ (lost count).
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 148 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 135 (Ronald):
> When Amiga Inc failed to deliver the goods (and most probaby never will) then it's the concerned's business.
> Those who bought the AmigaOne never received their 100$ back I presume, right?

Noone bought an AmigaOne yet. "You" bought an earlybird, or a amigaone motherboard. Its not an AmigaOne before there is an AmigaOS for it .. kind of obvious.

Its the "most probably never will"-part which we have too much of today .. guesswork.
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 149 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 02-Oct-2003 12:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 143 (Anonymous):
Whoops an anonymous troll making claims without any credence :)

Ooohhh How factually accurate :)
whoopeee let us rejoice at the post for it is the truth, that is why he hides behind the anon name :)

Sad person

Mikey C
Thendic-Amiga Lawsuit - Judge Lasnik Grants Leave For Amiga's Former Attorneys : Comment 150 of 427ANN.lu
Posted by Ketzer on 02-Oct-2003 12:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 140 (T_Bone):
> If they ARE paying them, they are violating court order, as they were ordered bu the federal court to pay the two employees their back pay FIRST.
> So, no, no proof, just wishfull thinking, as it would be very BAD that they were violating court orders.

So maybe someone else is paying them on Amiga's behalf?
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