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[News] New Titan applications for MorphOSANN.lu
Posted on 05-Oct-2003 18:09 GMT by Eva (Edited on 2003-10-06 14:51:51 GMT by Christophe Decanini)33 comments
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First picture from Guru Meditation show 2003 of two new programs for MorphOs: PaPyrus Office & BurnIt 3 (source:morphos-news).

After some moths of work Titan Computer is able to show the first betas of two big and importante programs for MorphOS.

The first was the too waited Office Suite for Mos: PaPyrus Office.

This is a small and fast Suite (Wordprocessor, Spreedsheet, Database) similar to Kde Office under Linux.

http://www.azt-ev.de/GuruMeditation2003/Papyrus_02.jpg

The second was the good BurnIt 3 that now has got a new and better interface that takes advantage of Ambiet+Mui, plus the support of DVD burner.

http://www.azt-ev.de/GuruMeditation2003/BurnIt_04.jpg

New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 1 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 05-Oct-2003 16:37 GMT
This is fantastic. They're both looking great, can't wait to buy them :)
Big respect to Titan for their work on these programs.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 2 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 05-Oct-2003 17:30 GMT
Also:
http://www.azt-ev.de/GuruMeditation2003/Papyrus_01.jpg

And:
http://www.azt-ev.de/GuruMeditation2003/BurnIt_01.jpg
http://www.azt-ev.de/GuruMeditation2003/BurnIt_02.jpg
http://www.azt-ev.de/GuruMeditation2003/BurnIt_03.jpg
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 3 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Oct-2003 19:32 GMT
This Papyrus?
http://www.rom-logicware.com/e_start.htm
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 4 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 05-Oct-2003 19:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Yep ;-)
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 5 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Oct-2003 20:12 GMT
Any plans for Amiga versions of these softwares? Pages seem to be bit outdated at the moment.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 6 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Oct-2003 22:32 GMT
Ewww.
An Atari program ;)
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 7 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Oct-2003 04:55 GMT
Forgot Papyrus....
What we need is port of OpenOffice.org 1.1
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 8 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Oct-2003 06:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Yep.. go ahead.. it's about 100Megabytes of Source code.. :-)
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 9 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 06-Oct-2003 06:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Bloatware ...
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 10 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Oct-2003 07:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (JoannaK):
Note: I'm not saying it's never happening.. but before it can
realisticly happen there will be a need for BIG and capable team
willing to do it.

When there are ... say at least 10 thousand active users to MorphOS
and OS4 it'll may happen. Assuming people can work together fot this.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 11 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Oct-2003 08:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (JoannaK):
Ahem, I seem to recall Bill Buck saying they would port OpenOffice (he mentioned it in a thread about openamiga)

Cheers
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 12 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Oct-2003 09:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Amon_Re):
Ah.. I seem to have forgotten that one alltogether.. Well, need to ask them on that one. I was talking about possibility to pure community effor with no other backing.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 13 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 06-Oct-2003 12:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Amon_Re):
Huh ?????

I do remeber Ben babbling about that once in a while,but not BillB.

And I should know since I was a member of the short-lived attempt to port it ......

@JoannaK
Having had a clother look at the sources, and what kind off developers are available:
Right after hell froze over ;(

And >10k users wouldn't change it,since that wouldn't change the number of experienced
developers, and it doesn't fix the short-comings that any Amiga(like)OS has and will have
forr the forseeable future.

@all
Kinda odd that noone seems to have taken a single picture of what I see as the biggest
suprise (in Rotterdam): Ignition ...
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 14 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Oct-2003 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Kronos):
Nope, it was definatly Bill Buck, i'll see if i can find it

Cheers
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 15 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by DET Nicolas on 06-Oct-2003 14:30 GMT
About OpenOffice:
It's written in Java. So as soon as we have a JVM, there is OpenOffice.
Personnly, I would prefer to use KindWords 3 to use that. It's really to ming mind, and awful software.
Really unsable to my mind.
I hope Papyrus, will be as good as I want :-)

Bye
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 16 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Robert Williams on 06-Oct-2003 14:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Kronos):
@Kronos

I was intrigued to see the reference to Ignition in Martin Heine's BAS report. I read the English translated version which described is as a "powerful table calculation". Do you know any more? My guess was that it is a spreadsheet and the translator didn't know the English term, am I right?

If it is a spreadsheet that would be good news as the Amiga has always lacked a really good one (especially as FinalCalc and TurboCalc are no longer developed). If I'm wrong then I'd still like to know what it is :)

Cheers,

Robert
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 17 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by DET Nicolas on 06-Oct-2003 14:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (DET Nicolas):
FIX:
It's really to my mind an awful software.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 18 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 06-Oct-2003 14:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (DET Nicolas):
OpenOffice in Java? I've not looked at the sources yet, but i was pretty sure it was C++.

Cheers
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 19 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 06-Oct-2003 15:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Amon_Re):
OpenOffice is in C++, I personally checked that (there are some small JAVA-parts,
but nothing essantial).

Yes,Ignition is a spreadsheet, plus database-functions and will feature excel-im/export.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 20 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by DET Nicolas on 06-Oct-2003 15:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Amon_Re):
Ok, it's in C++

Sorry for this mistake.
I was relly sure it was in Java.

Bye
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 21 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Oct-2003 16:59 GMT
To Joanna: yes its huge and what ????

OpenOffice.org (and its derivations) is IMHO only real office package that can be 100% used as M$ Office replacement RIGHT NOW... and its developed fast enough to stay in touch with M$
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 22 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Oct-2003 17:00 GMT
To Joanna: yes its huge and what ????

OpenOffice.org (and its derivations) is IMHO only real office package that can be 100% used as M$ Office replacement RIGHT NOW... and its developed fast enough to stay in touch with M$
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 23 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Outcast on 06-Oct-2003 18:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
Humm
In my own mind, OpenOffice is unusable...simply
And Word is really not terrible.

Waiting to see Papyrus on my computer to test that.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 24 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Robert Williams on 06-Oct-2003 18:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Kronos):
@Kronos

Thanks for confirming that, do you know who is developing Ignition?
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 25 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Kelly Samel on 06-Oct-2003 20:14 GMT
I much prefer to have Papyrus to OpenOffice.
Papyrus is faster and easier to navigate than
OpenOffice and seems to fit more into the idea
of having an efficient system with unique and
high quality applications. :)
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 26 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by smp266 on 06-Oct-2003 23:38 GMT
It looks great and also easy to use. (I'm a big Textcraft Plus fan:o)
For creative writing tasks, complexity is a big no-no. MS Word may have the (apparent) functionality of DTP program, but almost everytime I use it for that purpose it crashes.
I've tinkered with OpenOffice and it seemed okay, nothing dazzling however.

How is the DB and Spreadsheet on Papyrus?
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 27 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 07-Oct-2003 00:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
Well I use OOffice on PC when I need to do those things (perhaps
couple hous weekly) .. I have been using it well over a year so I know
quite well how much it has been developed on that time..

But it's basic problem is that it's HUGE (about 100Megabytes of
source) so getting it ported to Amiga or Pegasos is enourmous task
with what coders there are left. So as good as it is, (and reading M$
documents is nice feature) it's IMHO not happening anytime soon.
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 28 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Amon_Re on 07-Oct-2003 08:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Outcast):
I onlyu use OpenOffice these days, it's perfectly usable

Cheers
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 29 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by justnotbill on 07-Oct-2003 08:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Kelly Samel):
@Kelly Samel

You seem to use Papyrus.
It would be great if you answer some questions I have.


Does it support doc File import/export or "only" rtf (rom-logic website is not clear about that). How compatible is that?

What about Exel files?

Which featurse are you missing (there semes to be no thesaurus)?
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 30 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 07-Oct-2003 11:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Robert Williams):
AFAIR (and have been told by Alex Knabe on the show):

Axel Dörfler,author of XOpa (not xoper ;)
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 31 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Garlich on 07-Oct-2003 14:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (justnotbill):
Papyrus supports read/write of Word2/6-8/2000 documents, Wordperfect, html,unicode,UTF-8,ASCII and RTF
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 32 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by strobe on 08-Oct-2003 05:57 GMT
The Mac version of Open Office has been in development for a long time and its still nowhere near being anything usable. It's crap.

No, I really mean it.

I think part of the problem is it has its own widget system like Mozilla does. Kind of an OS of its own. Sun wants all versions to behave the same too which makes them suck uniformly. Ugh
New Titan applications for MorphOS : Comment 33 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Oct-2003 09:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (smp266):
"For creative writing tasks, complexity is a big no-no."

IMO for writing you want a word processor that does not do graphics or layout, or even bold and italic. The main thing you do need is a word count on hitting a single key.

A spelling checker is useful, but I would rather have the Thesaurus in book form than on screen.
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