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Posted on 08-Oct-2003 19:30 GMT by repostix (Edited on 2003-10-08 22:01:14 GMT by Christian Kemp)456 comments
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For Pegasos2 specs go to www.developer.ibm.com/solutions/isv/igssg.nsf/searchgui and enter "Pegasos" as search string, then click on "Start search", when the page is loaded click on "Functional description". (Or click here or read more below.) Pegasos II Specifications:
  • MicroATX motherboard
  • Marvell Discovery II System Controller (MV64361)
  • VIA peripheral controller (VT8231)
  • CPU on daughter card
  • Supports PowerPC CPUs from IBM and Motorola
  • DDR RAM PC 2100 / DDR266
  • 2X Ethernet ports (1x1Gbit and 1x10/100Mb)
  • 3 X Firewire USB 1.1
  • 2 X ATA 100
  • AC97 Audio (Line In / Line Out / Headphone Out)
  • SPDIF Out
  • AGP x1 port
  • 3 X PCI slots
  • Riser connector for 1st PCI slot
Miscellaneous ports:
  • Floppy
  • Serial
  • Parallel
  • 2 X PS/2
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 1 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 17:33 GMT
AGP 1x? hahahahahaha
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 2 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 08-Oct-2003 17:34 GMT
I found the time to nail the direct link to the IBM page, no need to search, simply use the tinyurl.

http://tinyurl.com/q7ql
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 3 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 08-Oct-2003 17:34 GMT
How many times did this news item get removed, and WHY? It's NEWS that is freely obtainable from IBM's servers!
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 4 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 17:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (reflect):
I just arrived back home. Must have been one of the other moderators. I cleaned this up for front-page posting, and moved it to "News".
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 5 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Sonork on 08-Oct-2003 17:37 GMT
AGP x1 should be enough for everyone! ;-)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 6 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Oct-2003 17:37 GMT
This has been kind of fun! :-)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 7 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Linus Gustafsson on 08-Oct-2003 17:39 GMT
Not really impressive. USB 1.1 and AGPx1 isn´t good enough these days. I had hoped for something better.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 8 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 08-Oct-2003 17:39 GMT
Is this really AGP 1x ? Was it decided to do this because of the NOISE when moving windows around on MoprhOS when having a Radeon card ?
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 9 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 08-Oct-2003 17:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Christian Kemp):
Christian, I think this has been removed from ANN around 10 to 15 times now. I submitted mine along in the beginning, I didn't see that it was posted before. I even followed the posting guidelines and added a real link and all, yet it was removed without an explanation.. and then I saw others getting removed too.
I'm not sure what to think, really.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 10 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Sonork on 08-Oct-2003 17:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (- GALAXY -):
They don't have to write 3D drivers for Radeon for MOS. There is no need now! ;-)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 11 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 17:41 GMT
Lets pray x1 is just a mistake.
And where are the new pci-slots?
What are the capabilities of the Marvel chip?
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 12 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 08-Oct-2003 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Christian Kemp):
>I just arrived back home. Must have been one of the other moderators. I
>cleaned this up for front-page posting, and moved it to "News".

It was removed at least 3 times - I am sure there is a good reason for this? I wonder what else gets deleted from ANN that other moderators don't want us to know...
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 13 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 08-Oct-2003 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
> AGP 1x?

No, "AGP x1 port". I would suspect this means "one AGP port, connecting to an AGP bus of undisclosed speed".
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 14 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Oct-2003 17:44 GMT
This is kind of what I expected - mainly a Pegasos I with the Articia S finally replaced, and DDR, 2x Ethernet, etc as an unexpected bonus! :-)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 15 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Sonork on 08-Oct-2003 17:44 GMT
My name is Pegasos... Pegasos 2D ;-)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 16 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 17:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (reflect):
I exchanged an email with Christophe now. The reason for these previous moderations was simple, valid, and probably not what most people are thinking.

(No, we're not biased. No, we don't want to hide anything. No, we're not evil Amiga/Microsoft/Genesi/pickyourchoice supporters. No, we're not not part of any conspiracy. Or whatever else.)

All: Just how many times do you think the same breaking news get submitted to a page like Slashdot? How many times is a news submission ignored there? At least on ANN, you can see the moderation queue. This is a privilege. Don't complain when moderators do what their job is: moderation.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 17 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 17:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Seehund):
It's indeed strange that all other ports are specified with "2 X", "3 X" and only the AGP port is specified with "x1". Also notice the writing in front of the port and after the port in case of the AGP port.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 18 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 08-Oct-2003 17:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Christian Kemp):
>I exchanged an email with Christophe now. The reason for these previous
>moderations was simple, valid, and probably not what most people are thinking.

Care to tell us why? :)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 19 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 17:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (smithy):
For the record: I can still access any submissions that were "deleted". I regularly check these, and so far, didn't have any reason to bring any of them back.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 20 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 17:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Christian Kemp):
I resubmitted this news item about 10 times, and it was always removed. So I don't think this was a case of "Multiple times posted to unmoderated section".
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 21 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by reflect on 08-Oct-2003 17:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Christian Kemp):
Sorry Christian, I followed the rules, I had valid html tags, it was no inflammatory text, all it said was "Here are the new Pegasos2 specs". I would love to hear why that one was removed, since it pointed to IBM's pages where you could easily navigate to whatever info you'd like about the Genesi Pegasos2.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 22 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 17:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (smithy):
That's up to Christophe. As a general rule, I treat email sent to me with the highest possible confidentiality, no matter who's the sender.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 23 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 08-Oct-2003 17:51 GMT
Not again... Not again...

As I told in the previous, deleted threads, I always love News posters of the sunny mailto:

This news item is at least somewhat comprehensive now.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 24 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Darren Eveland on 08-Oct-2003 17:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Christian Kemp):
ckemp wrote:

>I exchanged an email with Christophe now. The reason for these previous >moderations was simple, valid, and probably not what most people are thinking.

Christian, then tell us why it was removed. Who told the other moderator to do it? I think the users here deserve an explanation, otherwise people are going to think you are hiding something and/or are biased.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 25 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 17:53 GMT
Can we plese stop that boring newspost issue now and return to
ranting and rightfully criticizing?
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 26 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 17:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Anonymous):
One would guess that if your post was removed so many times, you'd get the message... Last time I checked, editorial decisions on a publically accessible and privately owned website are still up to the moderators.

Now, can anyone please cut back on the meta talk?
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 27 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 08-Oct-2003 17:55 GMT
Repeating again: it seems to be something that exists, and handles DDR rams. As to the AGP "issue", AFAIR neither the Pegasos I nor the Pegasos II as "true" AGP.

The speed and support the Marvell chip provides for graphic boards is remain to be seen.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 28 of 456ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 26 (Christian Kemp):
Message removed by Christian Kemp for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: No need to repeat what is available in the 'read more' section of this news item!
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 29 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 17:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Darren Eveland):
> Who told the other moderator to do it?

As ANN moderators, Christophe, Teemu and I don't answer to anyone, but make independent decisions based on information that is available to us, and our own judgement of what is the best approach to keep the site running as smoothly as possible.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 30 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by - GALAXY - on 08-Oct-2003 17:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Christian Kemp):
Christian, could you please provide http://tinyurl.com/q7ql as alternative Link to click ?
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 31 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 08-Oct-2003 18:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Seehund):
Do many boards come with more than one agp slot?!

Ian
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 32 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by XraalE on 08-Oct-2003 18:04 GMT
To the guy who told me to shut up because I wasn't a professional technician when I guessed Peg-2 would have no or slow AGP: here is my ass. You may now kiss it. It's nice and shiny and just waiting for your humbled and now silent lips.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 33 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Anonymous):
I can't see why you removed my comment.
So here it is again:

Yes, the message was "we don't want this valid news item, we intend to hide it".

Here is it again for your pleasure to see if it was worth to be removed so many times:

For Pegasos2 specs go to http://www.developer.ibm.com/solutions/isv/igssg.nsf/searchgui and enter "Pegasos" as search string, then click on "Start search", when the page is loaded click on "Functional description".
<P>
Functional description
<P>
Pegasos II Specifications:
<P>
MicroATX motherboard<BR>
Marvell Discovery II System Controller (MV64361)<BR>
VIA peripheral controller (VT8231)<BR>
CPU on daughter card<BR>
Supports PowerPC CPUs from IBM and Motorola<BR>
DDR RAM PC 2100 / DDR266<BR>
2X Ethernet ports (1x1Gbit and 1x10/100Mb)<BR>
3 X Firewire USB 1.1<BR>
2 X ATA 100<BR>
AC97 Audio (Line In / Line Out / Headphone Out)<BR>
SPDIF Out<BR>
AGP x1 port<BR>
3 X PCI slots<BR>
Riser connector for 1st PCI slot<BR>
<P>
Miscellaneous ports:
Floppy
Serial
Parallel
2 X PS/2
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 34 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Seehund):
Since when do boards have more than one agp slot.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 35 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 08-Oct-2003 18:05 GMT
There is no MHz neither at the PCI nor the AGP slot.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 36 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Stephane Desrosiers on 08-Oct-2003 18:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (IanS):
> Do many boards come with more than one agp slot?!

I don't think it's possible... But it doesn't stop people from stating the amount.

IE: Specs listing for a Shuttle system.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=392780&Sku=S451-3035

has:
AGP Slot X 1 Supports 2X/4X AGP Device
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 37 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Francois Prowse on 08-Oct-2003 18:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Guys - that description reads

1 time AGP port (not AGP 1x)

The speed of this port is yet to be determined....

Francois
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 38 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 08-Oct-2003 18:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Anonymous):
I removed your comment because it is a verbatim copy of what is in the news item. This is available on the main page!

This was given as a reason when I moderated your comment. Now, either you're half blind, your browser has cache issues, or you intentionally want to cause trouble.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 39 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 08-Oct-2003 18:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Anonymous):
> only the AGP port is specified with "x1".

AGP speed is generally specified like this: AGP 2x, AGP 4x, or AGP 8x.

See any PC tech site you want, or directly from the horse's mouth at http://www.intel.com/technology/agp/

Apart from groaning over their stupidity, I'll eat my hat if they actually meant "AGP 1x" speed.

Until then it's one AGP port. Unknown speed.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 40 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Kolbjørn Barmen on 08-Oct-2003 18:09 GMT
Where is the SPDIF in?

How are we supposed to do proper ripping without a SPDIF in?? :)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 41 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Seehund):
@Seehund:

Other entries in the specs have:

3X PCI Slot
2X Firewire
etc

that entry has:

AGP 1x Slot

It is a 1997-era AGP1x slot. Not surprising giving that it most likely is actually only a 66MHz PCI slot running off of one of the PCI controllers in the northbridge, because it doesn't support AGP!
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 42 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 08-Oct-2003 18:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (- GALAXY -):
The sound corruption pb is an articia issue
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 43 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:15 GMT
Oh, and can everyone please can the repost/moderation posts now, please!
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 44 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Seehund):
Here, have some salt with it.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 45 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 08-Oct-2003 18:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Anonymous):
No point in speculating...

BBRV where are you?!

I feel it is time for "PEG-PONG"!

;-)

Ian
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 46 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (mahen):
Of course it is.

* tired of hearing all this stuff *
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 47 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by IanS on 08-Oct-2003 18:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Christian Kemp):
@CK

No offence intended here - I have respect for you. But weren't you/your moderators accusing Amigaworld mods of "censorship" because they removed posts without giving a valid reason?

Again, not meant to be inflammatory - i'd just be interested to know why Christophe was deleteing the posts.

@All
No need to start flaming amigaincfleecyclownworld.net now I mentioned it ;-)

Ian
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 48 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Oct-2003 18:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Kolbjørn Barmen):
> Where is the SPDIF in? How are we supposed to do proper ripping without a SPDIF in?? :)

Onboard audio suck anyway, even in the digital domain (these codec chips have forced internal sample rate conversion, ie. if you feed them with 48 KHz from a digital TV, it gets resampled to whatever is the dominant sample rate in the codec, it is not "bit true"). Get a decent 24 bit/96 KHz PCI sound card.
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 49 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Oct-2003 18:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Seehund):
> AGP speed is generally specified like this: AGP 2x, AGP 4x, or AGP 8x.

Yes indeed.

But please everyone - stop the speculations about this! Chances are that you only will make fools out of yourself!

However I personally couldn't care less about AGP speed. Todays graphics boards have plenty of on board memory to store textures in anyway. Obviously it has an AGP slot, which many people claimed with great certainty it wouldn't have. The same people draw conclusions about PCI-X instead. Well, perhaps some people have learnt that chipset specifications are only interesting to motherboard designers and not end users!
:-)
Pegasos2 specifications : Comment 50 of 456ANN.lu
Posted by Emeric SH on 08-Oct-2003 18:23 GMT
To be honest except that the poster was anonymous and from mailto: I haven't seen problem with the previous threads. Why can't posters provide at least a nick is beyond my comprehension though...
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