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[Web] Genesi web sites down for upgradesANN.lu
Posted on 16-Oct-2003 02:35 GMT by minuteman11 comments
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The following sites for Genesi will be down for a short period of time: http://www.pegasosppc.com , http://www.genesi.lu , and http://www.morphos.net The sites are under going software upgrades and should be accessible again soon
Genesi web sites down for upgrades : Comment 1 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 16-Oct-2003 01:47 GMT
This means Pegasos 2 is imminent? :)
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Posted by tarbos on 16-Oct-2003 01:53 GMT
The pages are online again - and I already have some questions about those CPU comparison tables. >:-)
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 01:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Lando):
Maybe someone is getting married?
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Posted by gary_c on 16-Oct-2003 02:37 GMT
The sites are back up, with Pegasos II specs and prices, etc.

-- gary_c
Genesi web sites down for upgrades : Comment 5 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 16-Oct-2003 06:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (tarbos):
..the strange choices of mixed comparisons? compare heat against celeron 800
and then comparing speed agsinst a C3-1000 for example?

thats markewting for you.

alan
Genesi web sites down for upgrades : Comment 6 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 10:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (alan buxey):
>the strange choices of mixed comparisons? compare heat against celeron 800
and then comparing speed agsinst a C3-1000 for example? thats markewting for you

So what's your alternative plan? Compare it with a CPU that makes it look bad? Duh. You make the best with the product you have and the new web site does so nicely. I want a Pegasos II.
Genesi web sites down for upgrades : Comment 7 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by BrianK on 16-Oct-2003 11:14 GMT
Down for software upgrades? Can no one host a site on a clustered webservice and provide 24x7 100%uptime? I suppose for these companies with such a small market there's neither the financial incentive nor the necessity to do so.
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Posted by Darth_X on 16-Oct-2003 12:08 GMT
to trade up or not trade up... that is the question.
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 14:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Darth_X):
> to trade up or not trade up... that is the question.

It's good to have the Pegasos on sale again but I'll wait for the Pegasos3, that'll be a significant step forward (revolution rather than evolution) and keep the Pegasos 1 until then. I just like it too much to give it away ;-)
Genesi web sites down for upgrades : Comment 10 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 18:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
No, what he's saying is that it looks odd. To me, it looks like a Celeron 800 generates more heat, but also runs faster than a G3 (why else would they compare the G3 against a different CPU for FPS then?). It also tells me that the VIA CPU also uses less power than a G3. In other words, it's a lousy comparison. It tells me an x86 CPU that is faster than the G3 (the C800) and one that draws less power (the Via chip). That's just bad marketing.

The comparison they did with the G4 is way better, the CPU used to compare for power consumption and speed is the same. Here the message is "see, we're better than this powerful x86 CPU on both counts". No questions, no doubts.

Unless it's a cunning ploy to sell more G4s, if I were them I'd seriously consider redoing the G3 comparison.
Genesi web sites down for upgrades : Comment 11 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2003 20:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Anonymous):
> looks like a Celeron 800 generates more heat, but also runs faster than a G3 (why else would they compare the G3 against a different CPU for FPS then?)

Well, if you favour non-linear thinking, you might see it that way. Me, if I don't see a benchmark comparison for the Celeron 800, I don't conclude that the G3 is slower or faster or anything. Now the facts: A Celeron clocked at 800 MHz might be a bit faster than a G3 at 600 MHz in some benchmarks. And slower in others that favour the PPC architecture (more registers). Mixed picture. A C3, on the other hand, is known to be an underperformer on a GHz basis, which makes it a good reference point for marketing. At the same time, it is close enough to the Pegasos in the sense of "alternative, fanless and cool" to not make you look completely ridiculous if you compare your offerings against it.
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